[Johny Joe Hold]

Why is Creflo Dollar shopping for new airplane? It's because he hired one of his friends from the ghetto to fly his last one:

[Shad and Deb Lamb]

Deborah and I are happy to help since we don't want nigras flying around all over this country - think of what the Japs did to Pearl Harbor! I would imagine nigras are almost as bad as muslims behind the steering wheel of an airplane machine. I know some will think we harbor prejudice but as anyone here will attest, Landover is not a place where anyone is talked about that doesn't deserve it. Amen?

Anyway, put us down for $100,000 now and another hundred thousand next month and so on.

We adore Pastor Ezekiel Flint and had the pleasure of hearing his father many years ago. We saw him not long after that whole orphanage scandal hit him but I won't bring that up now - those boys were probably possessed and made it all up. And besides - it's over after all these years.

Enjoy your flying machine, Zekie (that's what your dad used to call you as he held you on his lap and bumped you up and down).

Lovingly in Our Redeemer,
Shadrach and Deborah
These lambs have a leg up on the devil - so he better flee!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Shad and Deb Lamb

Deborah and I are happy to help since we don't want nigras flying around all over this country - think of what the Japs did to Pearl Harbor! I would imagine nigras are almost as bad as muslims behind the steering wheel of an airplane machine. I know some will think we harbor prejudice but as anyone here will attest, Landover is not a place where anyone is talked about that doesn't deserve it. Amen?

Anyway, put us down for $100,000 now and another hundred thousand next month and so on.

We adore Pastor Ezekiel Flint and had the pleasure of hearing his father many years ago. We saw him not long after that whole orphanage scandal hit him but I won't bring that up now - those boys were probably possessed and made it all up. And besides - it's over after all these years.

Enjoy your flying machine, Zekie (that's what your dad used to call you as he held you on his lap and bumped you up and down).

Lovingly in Our Redeemer,
Shadrach and Deborah
These lambs have a leg up on the devil - so he better flee!

Budgeting for a pastor's aircraft is a very serious business. I hope your soul is prepared for the consequences if you renegotiate on us.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Creflo Dollar is watching this campaign and it is driving him nuts. During yesterday's sermon, he said he was not a prosperity preacher at all--his jet and the money he pockets belongs to God. Then, his eyes got really big, like he didn't believe what he just said.


Megachurch Preacher Creflo Dollar Says 'There's No Such Thing as the Prosperity Gospel;' Says 'Money in My Pocket … It's God's'

(Photo: Screen Grab via Your World With Creflo)Televangelist Creflo Dollar declares the money in his pocket belongs to God.

After coming under fire for asking 200,000 people to donate $300 or more each to raise $65 million to help his ministry purchase a luxury jet last month, popular televangelist Creflo Dollar, who is widely reported to be worth an estimated $27 million, has declared that "there is no such thing as the prosperity gospel" and the money in his pocket belongs to God.
"When we talk about prosperity, and people say it's the prosperity gospel, there is no such thing as the prosperity gospel, it's the gospel of grace. The money in my pocket is not mine, it's God's," said Dollar, in a promotional clip for an episode of "Your World With Creflo" where he speaks with pastor Gregory Dickow of Life Changers International Church.





"It came from Him. He is the source behind everything we have that is good. He loves to be trusted; He loves to be the one that you lean on. He loves to be the one that you rely on and He wants to be the one that you lean on and rely on first," continued Dollar in the clip.

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The popular Atlanta, Georgia-based preacher who turned 53 in January, is recognized around the world as one of the most popular preachers of the prosperity gospel that promotes the notion that Jesus wants his followers to be wealthy. It is a controversial concept that religion scholar Reza Aslan has described as a "profoundly unscriptural" interpretation of Jesus.
"The argument of the prosperity gospel, if I can put it flippantly, is that Jesus wants you to drive a Bentley. That is basically what the argument is. That what Jesus wants for you is material prosperity, and that if you literally give, you will literally be given tenfold. That's not a metaphor, as it is in most churches. It is literal. You give me $10 and Jesus will give you $100," said Aslan, speaking at the 2014 Indian Summer Festival in Vancouver about his book, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth.
"I mean, if there is one thing that is just so clear cut and just not open to interpretation at all of any kind when it comes to Jesus' message, it is His condemnation of wealth," he noted.
"And yet, not only does this version of Christianity exist, as I say, it is honestly the fastest growing version of Protestant evangelical Christianity in North America. That's because Jesus can be whatever you want Him to be, and the Christian message can be whatever you want it to be," he added.
In his messages, Dollar condemns poverty as ungodly.
"Poverty is not the will of God for any believer. However, there are Christians who have taken a 'vow of poverty' because they believe that poverty is a part of being holy and righteous. This is far from the truth," he said in an article on his website titled "Your Inheritance of Wealth and Riches."
"Poverty has nothing to do with godliness, or God — likeness. To be poor, or impoverished, means, 'to be without; in lack; deprived.' You and I don't serve a God of lack and insufficiency. He is the God of the exceeding and the abundant. In fact, He wants to lavish you with His goodness (Ephesians 3:20)," he said.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Creflo is going DOWN, Brothers and sisters. He will have to answer to his master satan, and I KNOW that he's headed for hellfire.

[Alvin Moss]

Creflo is a false preacher. He is an acolyte of Reverend Ike. They are both greedy for money, cars and whores. Their tribe has a few White men in it. Joel Osteen of Houston, which city God recently flooded for the affronts of the Houstonians, is one. So is Jimmy Swaggert. There is a special spot in Hell for the likes of these men.

[Esther B.]

Samuel and his family have decided to donate another $200,000. Samuel would also like to know how much more money is needed before Pastor Ezekiel can get his new plane (he asked me to ask).

[Johny Joe Hold]

True Christians™, we have to keep moving on this. Now, Creflo Dollars thinks Jesus has made him unstoppable--no one can stop him from believing Jesus wants him to have a $65 million dollar Gulfstream. When he realizes Pastor Zeke will have a $100 Airbus, who is to say Creflo will not hear a new message from Jesus that he needs one too. We need to drain the pond of money before Creflo starts taking from our donors.


Creflo Dollar Slams Critics: 'If I Want to Believe God for a $65 Million Plane, You Cannot Stop Me'

April 22, 2015|1:48 pm

(Photo: Screen Grab via YouTube)Televangelist Creflo Dollar postures as he rips critics for talking about his appeal for million from the public to purchase a luxury jet for his ministry.

After coming under heavy criticism for asking the public for $65 million dollars to purchase a luxury airplane for his ministry last month, popular televangelist and founder of World Changers Church International Creflo Dollar responded in spectacular defiance in a recent message to his church declaring: "If I want to believe God for a $65 million plane, you cannot stop me."
"Let me tell you something about believing God — I can dream as long as I want to. I can believe God as long as I want to. If I want to believe God for a $65 million plane, you cannot stop me. You cannot stop me from dreaming," he said in a clip of the message posted on YouTube showing his congregants rising to their feet and cheering in approval.
"You cannot stop me from dreaming. I'm gon' dream until Jesus comes. And here's another thing I want you to understand. … If they discover life on Mars, if you think a $65 million plane was too much, if they discover that there's life on Mars, they gon' need to hear the Gospel and I'm gon' have to believe God for a billion dollar space shuttle because we got to preach the Gospel on Mars," he said.
"I dare you to tell me I can't dream. I dare you to tell me that I can't believe God. If I find Jesus, I'm gonna look at Jesus until it comes to pass, because with God all things are possible to him that believe. And so, I say to you, dream on. Dream on baby, don't dream on what you can have, dream about what the devil says you can't have. Dream for the best. Dream for the best healing. Dream for the best deliverance; dream for the best house. Dream for the best car. Just 'cause the world don't have it, doesn't mean you can't have it. You are the children of the Almighty God. Dream, dream," he told his adoring congregants.
Dollar explained earlier in the message that he felt led by the Spirit of God to address the issue of the plane and other rumors circulating about his life because his critics are determined to discredit his voice and his ministry.

"And therefore, yesterday, they were transferring me from one county to the other one. I sure wished somebody woulda told me. Found out my real name is not Creflo Dollar. You know what it is? It's Michael Smith," he said, addressing a number of online rumors.

"Found out that none of y'all can ever get in the dome unless you show your W-2 form. What you say? Are you listening to what I'm saying? The enemy has got to discredit the voices of faith and grace and truth because he don't want you to know that you can walk on the water if you can look at Jesus. I've got to discredit that man before he starts showing people Jesus," he continued.
He further explained that he never once asked any member of his congregation to donate to the $65 million airplane fund because he has three million donors around the world who contribute to his ministry and people have been giving to help him get a new jet for his ministry.
The Christian Post had contacted his ministry earlier to find out how much money was collected but received no response. Dollar's team also repeatedly promised that the televangelist would sit with this reporter to address public concerns about his ministry but the Lord apparently had another plan.
"We are in the midst of a great fight. The enemy, like he always have, is trying to stop the preaching of Jesus and we're not gonna stop. I never one time, you can attest to it. I never one time came to you for a dime and asked you for an airplane, did I?" Dollar asked his congregants.
He then mocked headlines highlighting the request roundly declared sheer extravagance by the general public.
"'Creflo Dollar asking his members for $65 million. I ain't never asked you for a dime. We've got over 3 million partners around the world, 3 million donors around the world who support the ministry so I can get to where they are. I had a man from the Middle East send a letter to say they cut off my relative's head. We need you in the Middle East, here's a check right here for that plane," said Dollar.
"You understand what I'm saying? You cannot stop and you cannot curse what God has blessed. Are you listening to me? Half the people that are commenting on the Internet don't even know me. They don't know this ministry. They don't know what we do. That's why they ask the question: 'What does a preacher need with an airplane? If you knew what we did then you wouldn't ask that question. But you don't know what we do," he ended in the clip.

[James Hutchins]

What TSA agent is going to let an illiterate nigra board a plane bound for the middle east? Does he honestly think a stewardess is going to serve a baggage handler?

If God wanted him to fly, he'd of given him wings.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Esther B.

Samuel would also like to know how much more money is needed before Pastor Ezekiel can get his new plane (he asked me to ask).

I'm afraid this depends on a number of factors. If we find a church jet that is more expensive than Pastor Ezekiel's jet we are just going to have to buy a new one so we might as well gather as many funds as we can right now.

[Esther B.]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

I'm afraid this depends on a number of factors. If we find a church jet that is more expensive than Pastor Ezekiel's jet we are just going to have to buy a new one so we might as well gather as many funds as we can right now.

Of course, Brother! Samuel and his family would like to donate another $500,000.

Also, Samuel would like to know if all of his previous donations have been received.

[Naomi Ruth Lamb]

I'm sure the money was received. What Samuel should be asking is how it was spent. Is there any document showing the plane is on order with an estimated time of delivery? I know aircraft usually takes a bit of time but the faithful would love to know that their dollars have been spent as promised.

That's money that could have gone for a perfectly good pie, you know.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Originally Posted by Naomi Ruth Lamb

I'm sure the money was received. What Samuel should be asking is how it was spent. Is there any document showing the plane is on order with an estimated time of delivery? I know aircraft usually takes a bit of time but the faithful would love to know that their dollars have been spent as promised.
That's money that could have gone for a perfectly good pie, you know.

Please, Naomipie, let's not get the management concepts you use in your pie business with management of the $ million plus we need for Pastor Zeke's Airbus, White Eagle. We're faced with competition and we need move quickly. Pastor Zeke will provide accountability for the funds in due course.

At this moment, Creflo Dollar is hurting because he will have a smaller aircraft than Pastor Zeke. He may react in unpredictable ways. He may steal our donors. He may steal your pies.

Be alert.

[Naomi Ruth Lamb]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

Please, Naomipie, let's not get the management concepts you use in your pie business with management of the $ million plus we need for Pastor Zeke's Airbus, White Eagle. We're faced with competition and we need move quickly. Pastor Zeke will provide accountability for the funds in due course.

At this moment, Creflo Dollar is hurting because he will have a smaller aircraft than Pastor Zeke. He may react in unpredictable ways. He may steal our donors. He may steal your pies.

Be alert.

Oh Mr. Mayor, do you really think that's possible? Can't you organize a group of men to come protect my business? After all, I have certainly made a dent in the economy of your Christian, Conservative Republican, willingly ordinanced for everything town. Should I change my sign to say UNSAVED and NIGRA EVANGELISTS UNWELCOME? Sister Vavoline is one of my best customers, even if she does ask me to let her pay a little at a time. I don't want to insult "those people." I have always been kind to the lesser races.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

I will certainly acknowledge the seriousness of this money going toward a massive luxury plane for Pastor Ezekiel rather than paying his servants, upgrading his limousines, fueling his revolving designer wardrobe, or extending one of his larger mansions into a palace... But knowledge of Pastor Ezekiel's unsurpassed integrity, and the fact that his accountants are New York joos, ought to settle our nerves.

[Shad and Deb Lamb]

Originally Posted by Shad and Deb Lamb

Deborah and I are happy to help since we don't want nigras flying around all over this country - think of what the Japs did to Pearl Harbor! I would imagine nigras are almost as bad as muslims behind the steering wheel of an airplane machine. I know some will think we harbor prejudice but as anyone here will attest, Landover is not a place where anyone is talked about that doesn't deserve it. Amen?

Anyway, put us down for $100,000 now and another hundred thousand next month and so on.

We adore Pastor Ezekiel Flint and had the pleasure of hearing his father many years ago. We saw him not long after that whole orphanage scandal hit him but I won't bring that up now - those boys were probably possessed and made it all up. And besides - it's over after all these years.

Enjoy your flying machine, Zekie (that's what your dad used to call you as he held you on his lap and bumped you up and down).

Lovingly in Our Redeemer,
Shadrach and Deborah
These lambs have a leg up on the devil - so he better flee!

Since Billy Bob apparently thinks this isn't enough although others have donated LESS, we have stopped payment on our pledge and have instead sent the funds to Creflo Dollar. Naomi Ruth, your Dad and I are going to call Sister Johnson in California and put a down payment on a place in that nice community where she lives. We will miss you but we are tired of you making us embarrassed all the time and tired of the ungrateful people here. You know we always tithed and gave extra or we wouldn't have had titanium seats. That was OUR money, which is just as good as yours.

Honey please arrange for a moving van so we can leave this condom within 7 days. We won't be attending church this weekend so we can pack. We are listening to CREFLO instead on the interwebs. Glory to God for nigras that can preach and appreciate their flocks.

Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty, we're free at last.

[Naomi Ruth Lamb]

Originally Posted by Shad and Deb Lamb

Since Billy Bob apparently thinks this isn't enough although others have donated LESS, we have stopped payment on our pledge and have instead sent the funds to Creflo Dollar. Naomi Ruth, your Dad and I are going to call Sister Johnson in California and put a down payment on a place in that nice community where she lives. We will miss you but we are tired of you making us embarrassed all the time and tired of the ungrateful people here. You know we always tithed and gave extra or we wouldn't have had titanium seats. That was OUR money, which is just as good as yours.

Honey please arrange for a moving van so we can leave this condom within 7 days. We won't be attending church this weekend so we can pack. We are listening to CREFLO instead on the interwebs. Glory to God for nigras that can preach and appreciate their flocks.

Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty, we're free at last.

MOTHER! Stop this nonsense! If Brother Billy has upset you, discuss it with him and pray about it! When I needed a grove of trees removed from my expansive Apostles Park Court back yard, Billy Bob single handedly took those trees down in one afternoon and was still ready for my pie later. He has such love for God and such stamina! Bless the Lord.

You are NOT moving - so get that out of your head. Pastors and True Christian™ friends, please extend the courtesy of mercy and love to my parents. They have, indeed, been financially helpful to the church and that 100K will come in handy come time for the Aruba trip, Zeke - think before you act. "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy."

MOTHER - I am going to be over there in a moment. I better not find you packing. FATHER! Keep her off the Internet for a while.

My apologies to all for this unfortunate incident.
NRL

[Johny Joe Hold]

Naomipie and any other skeptics of our aircraft purchase for Pastor Zeke must face the facts. Pastor Zeke is the hero all preachers. Creflo Dollar is the goat.

As evidence, I'm showing this article by one of deepest intellectuals in the faith, outside of Landover Baptist. He points to the evils of Creflo Dollar's money. He has no criticism of our beloved Pastor Zeke's money.

I would guess, although it is no business of mine, that Pastor Zeke's net worth would make Creflo Dollar look like a guy on welfare . But, no one criticizes Pastor Zeke's money because he earned it fair and square. He preaches the true gospel.


Creflo Dollar Loves What's In His Pocket
by Dan Delzell , Special to CP

May 2, 2015|10:10 am

A notorious prosperity preacher from Atlanta has recently come under even more intense criticism. Creflo Dollar asked 200,000 people to donate $300 each in order to raise $65 million to purchase a private jet for his work. Creflo is widely reported to be worth an estimated $27 million.


In spite of the opulence he chooses to lavish on himself, this multimillionaire makes no apology for piling up a personal fortune. Creflo's appetite for luxury and excessive indulgence seems insatiable.
Prosperity preachers could learn a lot from the example of Pastor Rick Warren. Rick is a "reverse tither" who gives away 90% of his income. Few Christians have such strong faith when it comes to their finances, and Creflo Dollar would have to learn how to crawl before he could walk with the likes of Rick Warren.
But Creflo could make great strides if he were to reduce his net worth to say, $2 million dollars, while giving away most of his fortune to the needy. Such generosity would indicate something noble within his heart. Of course it would be even better to reduce his net worth to $200,000. But that would be quite a stretch for a man who has so often boasted of his wealth and material possessions.
Jesus said, "You cannot serve both God and Money." (Matthew 6:24) The Lord regularly warned people about the love of money.
Creflo Dollar said, "The money in my pocket is not mine, it's God's." But his financial decisions clearly refute that claim. If the money in his pocket truly belonged to God, then Creflo would no longer hoard it. And he wouldn't continue spending millions of dollars on his materialistic fantasies.

[Harsha Shah]

Yes. It seems that this was not realized? Perhaps the good people of this church are donating more to charity and less to luxury, eh? I hope I am not offending anyone. In fact I am thinking that it is magnificent to do charity instead of environmentally unsustainable private aircraft. Yes. Again I am seeing the fundamental unity of everyone and all sincere faiths. It is beautiful, yes.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Okay, now I'm losing patience people. Did any of you see THIS headline in today's Christian News?

Creflo Dollar’s board says he’ll get the $65 million jet he wants because God told them so


The board of World Changers Church International, or Creflo Dollar Ministries, founded by popular televangelist Creflo Dollar, said in a statement that the organization will acquire the luxury multimillion-dollar Gulfstream G650 jet Dollar has been asking for, the Christian Post reports.

According to the WCCI board, the luxury private jet is a necessity for its global reach.

“It is our belief that this ministry is called to serve people globally — to literally change the world according to the Great Commission — and our infrastructure and operational plan reflect the worldwide nature of that assignment,” the WCCI board said in the statement. “Our pastors share the gospel of Jesus more than 300 times per year — in churches, arenas, venues, convention centers, stadiums and other facilities across the entire planet — and are committed to aggressive travel schedules that cannot be fulfilled via any means other than private aircraft.”

“A long-range, high-speed, intercontinental jet aircraft is a tool that is necessary in order to fulfill the mission of the ministry,” the statement continued. “In light of an unfortunate accident that recently resulted in the ministry’s aircraft being declared a total loss, it is our intention to purchase another airplane at a time, place and price of our choosing,”

The board defended its choice of the luxury multimillion-dollar G650, saying “it is the best, and it is a reflection of the level of excellence at which this organization chooses to operate.”

“We, the World Changers family, so value the lives, the safety and the well-being of our pastors and leaders that we wish to provide to them the best air travel experience possible,” the WCCI board proclaimed.

In March, Dollar attempted to raise $65 million to purchase this jet through a crowdfunding campaign. The campaign, which asked the 200,000 of the Ministries’ international supporters to donate $300 each, was shut down after it had stirred up public controversy.

In lieu of the controversy, the WCCI board made it clear earlier in the statement that the decision wasn’t Dollar’s alone, but “an action of this board.”

According to the WCCI board, purchasing the luxury private jet is following “the Word of God.”

“We understand that others may interpret biblical truths differently — the freedom to worship as one chooses is a fundamental hallmark of a free society — but wish to assert our God-given right to practice what we believe,” said the statement. “This is our faith, the very basis for what we believe, and it is not necessary that we justify it.”

There is only one little problem. Since 2013, Gulfstream has only delivered about 50 of G650s annually and here is a backlog on orders for the popular luxury aircraft through the beginning of 2018, according to Gulfstream’s sales director for New Jersey, Delaware and New York, Kevin Valik.

If God can tell that coon Creflo's Board to buy him a plane, then WHY CAN'T MINE!!??