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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-29-2010, 04:48 AM

Friends,

As we are currently discussing Why Atheists are so miserable, I have decided to start this new thread - to continue my '101 Reasons' Series with '101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG'.

Reason No. 1 - The Holy Bible!

Atheists 'claim' that God doesn't exist, yet the Bible proves them WRONG! I can see the Bible, hold it in my hand, and know 1000% that it exists! As God wrote the Bible, this proves that he MUST EXIST too! How dumb these Atheists are!
God didnt write the bible clearly man wrote it and its been passed down through generations.
Reason No. 2 - Evil-ution from Monkeys!

If we really evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys STILL exist? Surely they would've evolved too? And why don't we have tails or swing from trees or speak in monkey-talk? These atheists must be pretty deluded to believe such nonsense!
We arent monkeys we evolved from them. which means we split off from monkeys and became and entirely different species along time ago. But theyre still around because we split off.
Reason No. 3 - The 'Big Bang'

Atheists believe there was a 'Big Bang' which created the Earth and the Universe and all things?? Well, what created the 'Big Bang'?? And what was there before it 'banged'??? Ask ANY atheist - they won't be able to answer you! Why? Because God created the 'Big Bang'! And then went on to create the Earth and everything in just 6 days! Praise Jesus!
There was no intelligient force behind it only energy. which makes up all things.
Reason No. 4 - Dinosaurs

Most dumb atheists believe that man and dinosaurs didn't inhabit the Earth at the same time. However, we know this to be a LIE! Didn't Noah ride dinosaurs onto the Ark? Aren't Dinosaurs mentioned throughout the Bible?
Actualy dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible in several verses. And there is no physical evidence of a world wide flood not to mention being entirely impossible.
Checkmate - Atheist!


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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-29-2010, 04:24 PM

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Friends,

As we are currently discussing Why Atheists are so miserable, I have decided to start this new thread - to continue my '101 Reasons' Series with '101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG'.

Reason No. 1 - The Holy Bible!

Atheists 'claim' that God doesn't exist, yet the Bible proves them WRONG! I can see the Bible, hold it in my hand, and know 1000% that it exists! As God wrote the Bible, this proves that he MUST EXIST too! How dumb these Atheists are!

Reason No. 2 - Evil-ution from Monkeys!

If we really evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys STILL exist? Surely they would've evolved too? And why don't we have tails or swing from trees or speak in monkey-talk? These atheists must be pretty deluded to believe such nonsense!

Reason No. 3 - The 'Big Bang'

Atheists believe there was a 'Big Bang' which created the Earth and the Universe and all things?? Well, what created the 'Big Bang'?? And what was there before it 'banged'??? Ask ANY atheist - they won't be able to answer you! Why? Because God created the 'Big Bang'! And then went on to create the Earth and everything in just 6 days! Praise Jesus!

Reason No. 4 - Dinosaurs

Most dumb atheists believe that man and dinosaurs didn't inhabit the Earth at the same time. However, we know this to be a LIE! Didn't Noah ride dinosaurs onto the Ark? Aren't Dinosaurs mentioned throughout the Bible?

Checkmate - Atheist!


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Ok, i will try not to get pissed off at you. Heres my counter to that:

1) The bible... written by humans, about an 'almighty' being that created the universe -.-. So i say: SUPERMAN IS GOD!
2) There are so many websites about that, but i'll say it here:

Monkeys have evolved, but in differant ways. Would you survive without tools in the middle of a rainforest at night? No. A monkey could, because it's evolved for that. Would a monkey survive in a desert? No, because it isn't evolved for that. We started as a mutation in one monkey, who got a larger brain. After a while it branched off. With our bigger brains we made tools and shelter and clothes. so we didn't need to swing about in the trees with fur. They did.

3) Using your own argument, where did god come from? When he created the universe what did he do before it? How was he created? Same logic, different side. Your argument fails.

4) lolwut? That last point makes no sense. Although at least you admit dinosaurs existed -.-
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-29-2010, 05:31 PM

I've said it before, just because you believe in something doesn't make it true. If you believe in dinosaurs and the big bang and evolution that does NOT mean that stuff is real. It just means you are an ignorant scumbag and your heart is filled with hate and self loathing. That is fine for you and since you don't believe in God then I fully support your warped mind. It means that when I am called home by my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ I won't have to be anywhere near you. I will no longer have to deal with mindless liberals or democrats or commies or mexicans. I'll be surrounded by love and Jesus will be inside me planting His seeds. Not believing in God is the same as almost believing in nothing.


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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-30-2010, 08:10 AM

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You read Luke more it is quite clear when Jesus talks about "neighbor" He means fellow Christians.
uuuuh, WAIT! I haven't read any of the other post but want to put another quote into this one:
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Just read the King James Bible and do not interpret it. Read it as is written. Start living your life as written in the Bible.

so, why do you interpret "neighbours" as "fellow Christians"?
I don't get either why you interpret "dogs" into "homosexuals" or "know" into "have sex with" ...

I thought Baptism was about reading the bible and live as ist says (clearly you can't stone s.o. to death nowadays but you should if you coul, don't you?)

Please explain
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-30-2010, 08:43 AM

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Friends,

As we are currently discussing Why Atheists are so miserable, I have decided to start this new thread - to continue my '101 Reasons' Series with '101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG'.

Reason No. 1 - The Holy Bible!

Atheists 'claim' that God doesn't exist, yet the Bible proves them WRONG! I can see the Bible, hold it in my hand, and know 1000% that it exists! As God wrote the Bible, this proves that he MUST EXIST too! How dumb these Atheists are!

Reason No. 2 - Evil-ution from Monkeys!

If we really evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys STILL exist? Surely they would've evolved too? And why don't we have tails or swing from trees or speak in monkey-talk? These atheists must be pretty deluded to believe such nonsense!

Reason No. 3 - The 'Big Bang'

Atheists believe there was a 'Big Bang' which created the Earth and the Universe and all things?? Well, what created the 'Big Bang'?? And what was there before it 'banged'??? Ask ANY atheist - they won't be able to answer you! Why? Because God created the 'Big Bang'! And then went on to create the Earth and everything in just 6 days! Praise Jesus!

Reason No. 4 - Dinosaurs

Most dumb atheists believe that man and dinosaurs didn't inhabit the Earth at the same time. However, we know this to be a LIE! Didn't Noah ride dinosaurs onto the Ark? Aren't Dinosaurs mentioned throughout the Bible?

Checkmate - Atheist!


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1. How do you know god wrote it? By the rubbish written in there I think a drunken pirate may have written it What proof do you have that god wrote the bible?

2. First of all you spelt 'evolution' wrong, stupid illiterate fool
Evolution has been proved, you are wrong, get over it.
Only one species of apes evolved into what are now modern day humans, not all of them.

3. So rather than a logical, somewhat extreme but true theory (The Big Bang) you believe that someone created the universe and everything in six days? Sorry but thats hilarious. In six days I couldn't even finish 'Oblivion' on xbox 360, let alone make everything in the universe.

4. Ever heard of fossils? You know proof of dinosaurs?
Oh wait, no of course you haven't, you've never left your cave of ignorance..



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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-30-2010, 11:24 AM

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so, why do you interpret "neighbours" as "fellow Christians"?
I don't get either why you interpret "dogs" into "homosexuals" or "know" into "have sex with" ...

I thought Baptism was about reading the bible and live as ist says (clearly you can't stone s.o. to death nowadays but you should if you coul, don't you?)

Please explain
Of course neighbours is fellow Christians. You seem to have lost the word in translation.


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Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-30-2010, 01:48 PM

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1. How do you know god wrote it? By the rubbish written in there I think a drunken pirate may have written it What proof do you have that god wrote the bible?

2. First of all you spelt 'evolution' wrong, stupid illiterate fool
Evolution has been proved, you are wrong, get over it.
Only one species of apes evolved into what are now modern day humans, not all of them.

3. So rather than a logical, somewhat extreme but true theory (The Big Bang) you believe that someone created the universe and everything in six days? Sorry but thats hilarious. In six days I couldn't even finish 'Oblivion' on xbox 360, let alone make everything in the universe.

4. Ever heard of fossils? You know proof of dinosaurs?
Oh wait, no of course you haven't, you've never left your cave of ignorance..

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5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-30-2010, 07:29 PM

Good comeback.

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Good comeback.

John Milton said: "Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven."
Guess where John Milton is right now.


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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 08-30-2010, 11:52 PM

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uuuuh, WAIT! I haven't read any of the other post but want to put another quote into this one:

so, why do you interpret "neighbours" as "fellow Christians"?
I don't get either why you interpret "dogs" into "homosexuals" or "know" into "have sex with" ...
I have a homework assignment for you.

Go to www.biblegateway.com and select the King James Version.
Search for the word "neighbour".

Review each verse with that word, in its proper context, and write down what "neighbour" means in that context.

Once you have three meanings, just use a tally checklist for the meanings used.
You will find in no case does "neighbour" mean "every human, living or dead". It has three specific meanings. You tell me, what are they?

Then do the same with "know" and "knew". Tell me the meanings you find.


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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 09-01-2010, 06:17 AM

So where were the rebutals to my points?
All I saw was someone telling me I'm going to hell
Really, after being told that a hundred times it loses its effect..

So no argueing against my points?
That means you lose.

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So where were the rebutals to my points?
All I saw was someone telling me I'm going to hell
Really, after being told that a hundred times it loses its effect..

So no argueing against my points?
That means you lose.

Tehe .
Why are you whining. You have not made any points.


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1. How do you know god wrote it? By the rubbish written in there I think a drunken pirate may have written it What proof do you have that god wrote the bible?

2. First of all you spelt 'evolution' wrong, stupid illiterate fool
Evolution has been proved, you are wrong, get over it.
Only one species of apes evolved into what are now modern day humans, not all of them.

3. So rather than a logical, somewhat extreme but true theory (The Big Bang) you believe that someone created the universe and everything in six days? Sorry but thats hilarious. In six days I couldn't even finish 'Oblivion' on xbox 360, let alone make everything in the universe.

4. Ever heard of fossils? You know proof of dinosaurs?
Oh wait, no of course you haven't, you've never left your cave of ignorance..

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These points.
1. How do you know god wrote it? By the rubbish written in there I think a drunken pirate may have written it What proof do you have that god wrote the bible?

2. First of all you spelt 'evolution' wrong, stupid illiterate fool
Evolution has been proved, you are wrong, get over it.
Only one species of apes evolved into what are now modern day humans, not all of them.

3. So rather than a logical, somewhat extreme but true theory (The Big Bang) you believe that someone created the universe and everything in six days? Sorry but thats hilarious. In six days I couldn't even finish 'Oblivion' on xbox 360, let alone make everything in the universe.

4. Ever heard of fossils? You know proof of dinosaurs?
Oh wait, no of course you haven't, you've never left your cave of ignorance..
1. 2 Timothy 3:15-17
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


2. Evolution is just an atheist lie. God created everything.

3. God created the world.
Genesis 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

4. God created dinosaurs. Any way fossils are just remains of dead animals
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20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.


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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 09-01-2010, 10:37 AM

Thank you for atleast attempting to have a snesible debate/arguement.
Unfortunately.. you did not do to well.

1. Using quotes from the book that is in question really, really, doesn't work I'm sorry.

2. Lack of evidence

3. See 2

4. Dinosaur fossils are remains of dinosaurs.
These dinosaurs roamed the earth before it was supposedly created by god.

I would say nice try, but it really wasn't.

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Thank you for atleast attempting to have a snesible debate/arguement.
Unfortunately.. you did not do to well.

1. Using quotes from the book that is in question really, really, doesn't work I'm sorry.

2. Lack of evidence

3. See 2

4. Dinosaur fossils are remains of dinosaurs.
These dinosaurs roamed the earth before it was supposedly created by god.

I would say nice try, but it really wasn't.

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You are just mocking the Lord. All the points I answered are valid and correct. You do realize Plant of the Apes was just a movie series.


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1. How do you know god wrote it? By the rubbish written in there I think a drunken pirate may have written it What proof do you have that god wrote the bible?
It is written in our hearts God wrote The Bible. Atheists like you lie and refuse to admit you know it to.

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2. First of all you spelt 'evolution' wrong, stupid illiterate fool
Evolution has been proved, you are wrong, get over it.
Only one species of apes evolved into what are now modern day humans, not all of them.
Question invalidated by personal attack.

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3. So rather than a logical, somewhat extreme but true theory (The Big Bang) you believe that someone created the universe and everything in six days? Sorry but thats hilarious.
You do know a Catholic priest came up with The Big Bang theory and Einstein never accepted it.
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Time as we perceive it only happens this way on the surface of the Earth. See the Theory of Relativity.
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4. Ever heard of fossils? You know proof of dinosaurs?
Dinosaurs are in The Bible. There is a theory Jesus worked on a dinosaur ranch at one point in His life before His public ministry.

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Oh wait, no of course you haven't, you've never left your cave of ignorance..

as for you, you think walking into the darkness at the end of the cave is leaving it.

Seriously dude, learn your own stuff before pointing fingers at others. The arrogance of blatantly ignorant people like you is insufferable. It's one thing to become an atheist because of some lifetime journey, God may forgive that, but because you are to lazy to find it out is just pathetic.



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You are just mocking the Lord. All the points I answered are valid and correct. You do realize Plant of the Apes was just a movie series.
I have never seen that movie, is it good?
Just saying 'Because god made it so' and 'It just is' etc are not decent enough.

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It is written in our hearts God wrote The Bible. Atheists like you lie and refuse to admit you know it to.


Question invalidated by personal attack.


You do know a Catholic priest came up with The Big Bang theory and Einstein never accepted it.

Time as we perceive it only happens this way on the surface of the Earth. See the Theory of Relativity.

Dinosaurs are in The Bible. There is a theory Jesus worked on a dinosaur ranch at one point in His life before His public ministry.

as for you, you think walking into the darkness at the end of the cave is leaving it.

Seriously dude, learn your own stuff before pointing fingers at others. The arrogance of blatantly ignorant people like you is insufferable. It's one thing to become an atheist because of some lifetime journey, God may forgive that, but because you are to lazy to find it out is just pathetic.
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Honestly thank you very much, really I mean it.

1. My heart pumps blood around my body.
It doesn't keep hidden secrets about books I'm sorry.

2. I apolagise, it's just when people say evil-ution I get annoyed.
Whats wrong with evolution? It means that someday us humans may evolve to be smart/strong enough to actually be something great.

3. So what? Not every scientist has to agree to a theory.

Here's some information about the big bang, I did not write it, I am just using it:

"Scientist do have an explanation as to how the world was created, and there is more than ample evidence to back it up. It does not involve God at all. Alien has more or less said it all, but here's a condensed version, and the evidence.

*The Universe came into existence 13.7 billion years ago. There was literally nothing beforehand, no time, even. The concept of "before" the big bang makes no sense. The physics is exceedingly complicated, but let's move on.

*Stars formed from matter created in the big bang, and supernova explosions from the larger stars created heavier elements. Some of these elements were lying around in a big gas cloud, which collapsed under its own gravity (probably triggered by the gravity wave of a nearby supernova explosion). As it collapsed, heavier elements condensed to form the planets (including Earth), whilst hydrogen gas collected to form the sun. The sun got so hot that nuclear fusion commenced, generating heat and light.

That is, more or less, how the solar system an the Earth was created.

The evidence:
* Hubble predicted using some very complex physics I won't go into, that were the universe to be created like this, then most of the gas in space should be roughly 75% hydrogen and 25% helium, ignoring Traceelements. It is.
*The COBE satellite has detected cosmic background radiation of the same frequency as scientists predicted would be the case.
*We can observe the universe expanding and it must therefore have existed originally at a single point.
*Here on earth, we can use the decay of uranium samples to measure the date of certain rocks. Our oldest ones are roughly 4.6 billion years old. Other measurements, such as the size of the sun, also support the idea that the solar system is about 4.6 billion years old.
We also have fossils, genetic evidence, and the like...I could go on for ages.

Essentially, the formation of the earth and evolution is one of the best supported scinetific theories (note: a theory in science does NOT mean a guess...it means it is supported with evidence and experiments. A hypothesis is a guess) in existence. How anyone could possibly doubt the evidence I don't know. "

4. But dinosaurs roamed the earth for many many millions of years, much longer than god had created the earth, supposedly.
So how does that work out?

By the way, heres some more stuff I've found:

"I am sure you know this but I will still note that, the bible is nothing more than fiction, it has no basis in science and can only be comprehended through faith ( faith being the one thing able to explain the unexplainable) The Human race is known to be at least, 6 million yrs old, though 10 million is likely. Creationism is just a DESIGN to fit with the understanding of its bronze age authors, people that had no way of explaining their own or the universes existence, thus God did it??? Creationism is easily flawed in every sense and the only reason it still survives is because without the creation story of Adam and Eve and the first original sin, there would be no need for the Atonement of Jesus, thus Christianity as a whole would become unnecessary!!"


I am not just trying to annoy you people, believe me. I value faith.
But if you are trying to persuade someone to become religious then you will need some facts, not just saying that "If you don't you will go to hell!". that doesn't work anymore, people aren't scared.


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Did someone mention Planet of the Apes?


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I have never seen that movie, is it good?
Just saying 'Because god made it so' and 'It just is' etc are not decent enough.



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Honestly thank you very much, really I mean it.

1. My heart pumps blood around my body.
It doesn't keep hidden secrets about books I'm sorry.
Have you ever considered reading the Bible? You make a bunch of assertions but without any evidence to back this up your assertions are worthless.
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2. I apolagise, it's just when people say evil-ution I get annoyed.
Whats wrong with evolution? It means that someday us humans may evolve to be smart/strong enough to actually be something great.
What's wrong with evolution is that Darwin is trying to steal the glory God deserves.

Besides, evolution doesn't create something great, smart or string, it creates bland efficiency. If evolution caused intelligence every being on earth would be intelligent. If evolution caused strength every being would be strong. If evolution were true every creature would be equally able to do something great. Reality is the exact opposite, only a few chosen species are strong, the rest are weak. Only one species is intelligent, the rest are just dumb animals and plants.

Fact is: greatness requires moral behavior which is not required/created/caused by evolution. Morals come from the Bible. They can only come from the Bible (or directly from God) because only God is wise enough to know what is good for us.

Does your dog know not to shit on the floor? How does it know? Because you taught it. Not because the dog is evolved to know it's improper to shit on the floor, but because a more intelligent being used punishment and enticement to teach the dog proper behavior. God teaches us the same way, if we do as He tells us to He rewards us with Heaven. If we disobey we get smitten and burn in Hell.
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3. So what? Not every scientist has to agree to a theory.
Why not, aren't you and scientists claiming that there is sufficient evidence for their theories? If different scientists hold different theories than the evidence for both is obviously insufficient and wrong. It's either that or scientists lie about needing evidence, and what they believe is no more than a believe.
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Here's some information about the big bang, I did not write it, I am just using it:
You copied and pasted something found on the internet... Wow, good for you. What made you choose this particular text from the internet? You could have copied an internet site that claims the universe is created by aliens, or that the universe is just a figment of the imagination, or that the universe is a simulation running on someone's computer. Did you actually verify any of it? Or is the author known to be infallible? Could you point out who the author is? And what miracles he has performed?

Compare this to the author of the Bible: God who is proven to be infallible, who is proven to have the capability to do all that is attributed to Him, who is proven to have performed miracles.
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"Scientist do have an explanation as to how the world was created, and there is more than ample evidence to back it up. It does not involve God at all. Alien has more or less said it all, but here's a condensed version, and the evidence.
"More than ample evidence", why is none of that evidence provided here?
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*The Universe came into existence 13.7 billion years ago. There was literally nothing beforehand, no time, even. The concept of "before" the big bang makes no sense. The physics is exceedingly complicated, but let's move on.
If there was no time, than no change is possible, so the big bang could not have happened. Also making a claim and then stating the physics is too complicated to explain makes the claim worthless. Either your claim is backed up by evidence or you just made this nonsense up.
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*Stars formed from matter created in the big bang, and supernova explosions from the larger stars created heavier elements. Some of these elements were lying around in a big gas cloud, which collapsed under its own gravity (probably triggered by the gravity wave of a nearby supernova explosion). As it collapsed, heavier elements condensed to form the planets (including Earth), whilst hydrogen gas collected to form the sun. The sun got so hot that nuclear fusion commenced, generating heat and light.
So for a star to form there needs to be an exploding star beforehand. Where does the first star come from? And what causes gravity waves? You do know explosions don't cause gravity waves right?
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That is, more or less, how the solar system an the Earth was created.
No it's not.
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The evidence:
* Hubble predicted using some very complex physics I won't go into, that were the universe to be created like this, then most of the gas in space should be roughly 75% hydrogen and 25% helium, ignoring Traceelements. It is.
Really, you are once again refusing to provide evidence for your theories?

And how did mr. Hubble predict this, did he by any chance first look at space and then decide to make a theory that matched what he saw? As I understand it that is the normal way for scientists to create theories, they look at the world, make some stuff up about what it is and proclaim it to be truth. And was this 75% hydrogen 25% helium mixture ever verified to exist? Have scientists gone across space to see what is out there? And what about black matter? Aren't scientists claiming that 75% of the universe is made out of matter that is not regular matter? Doesn't that make mr. Hubble wrong? Or do you scientists simply create so many conflicting theories that it is impossible to verify that veracity of them all?
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*The COBE satellite has detected cosmic background radiation of the same frequency as scientists predicted would be the case.
Really? How do we verify this claim? Is there any evidence to suggest that the readings this satellite sends to earth were not preconcocted so they would match the silly little theory?
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*We can observe the universe expanding and it must therefore have existed originally at a single point.
Really? If my car is observed driving 50 mph does that proof that 1 billion years ago it was located 50 billion miles away? Second scientists have not proven the universe to be expanding. Nor do they know where the center of the universe is, even though if it were really expanding there should be more matter at the center than the edges.
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*Here on earth, we can use the decay of uranium samples to measure the date of certain rocks. Our oldest ones are roughly 4.6 billion years old. Other measurements, such as the size of the sun, also support the idea that the solar system is about 4.6 billion years old.
Provided that the relation between radioactive and non-radioactive uranium and its decay-products has been exactly the same for those 4.6 billion years. (Hint: even the turning of the earth changes decay rates of isotopes). Before this theory can even be tested all the assumption it makes before it even predicts a single thing have to be verified, which just by total coincidence happens to be impossible. This whole idea is based on quicksand.
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We also have fossils, genetic evidence, and the like...I could go on for ages.
And what do fossils proof? And what does genetic evidence proof? Ever heard of the saying "don't invent the wheel a second time"? If evolution were random there would be nothing to stop it from reinvinting the wheel all the time. Only an intelligent being will reuse prior inventions. A plant and a dog both having DNA simply proves that someone of very high intelligence didn't want to do double work and decided to use DNA both in plants and in dogs, despite the huge difference between those species.
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Essentially, the formation of the earth and evolution is one of the best supported scinetific theories (note: a theory in science does NOT mean a guess...it means it is supported with evidence and experiments. A hypothesis is a guess) in existence. How anyone could possibly doubt the evidence I don't know. "
The formation of earth and evolution is one theory?

And it is supported by evidence and experiments?

Lies!

No scientist has ever verified evolution in an experiment. No scientist has ever managed to take a monkey and turn it into a human. No scientist has ever managed to take some gas and turn it into a sun and an earth and a moon. Scientists will even claim such experiments are impossible, proving once again that scientists do not have any evidence for their claims. It also proves that God did create earth, because if humans can't do it then it must have been created by someone far more powerful and intelligent: God.
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4. But dinosaurs roamed the earth for many many millions of years, much longer than god had created the earth, supposedly.
So how does that work out?
It works out through the word "supposedly". It never happened the way scientists describe it, but they think to confuse us by sneaking in the word supposedly. The Bible tells us all about dinosaurs no more than a few thousand years ago, well after God created earth, so it all works out splendidly in reality.
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By the way, heres some more stuff I've found:
Is it as useless as the previous nutcase conspiracy theory you lifted from some random idiot's webpage?
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"I am sure you know this but I will still note that, the bible is nothing more than fiction, it has no basis in science and can only be comprehended through faith ( faith being the one thing able to explain the unexplainable) The Human race is known to be at least, 6 million yrs old, though 10 million is likely. Creationism is just a DESIGN to fit with the understanding of its bronze age authors, people that had no way of explaining their own or the universes existence, thus God did it??? Creationism is easily flawed in every sense and the only reason it still survives is because without the creation story of Adam and Eve and the first original sin, there would be no need for the Atonement of Jesus, thus Christianity as a whole would become unnecessary!!"
Yes, it is as useless. It makes an assertion about the human race being 6 to 10 million years old with no evidence and uses that unfounded assertion to claim God is a liar. That's not how logic works dumbass. By the way, funny how you scientists can be accurate to the year when it comes to the creation of the universe (which can't be verified) but leave yourself lots of leeway when you are dealing with things that regular people can verify (and you guys still get it wrong).
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I am not just trying to annoy you people, believe me. I value faith.
But if you are trying to persuade someone to become religious then you will need some facts, not just saying that "If you don't you will go to hell!". that doesn't work anymore, people aren't scared.
You "value" faith? How high do you value it? Not very high if you are willing to risk an eternity of suffering... Son, you need to read the Bible and get yourself baptized.

Have you ever heard of "game theory"? It's a little something scientists have come up with and it says how to behave based on the chance of future reward. Even if you as a heathen atheist believe you're 99.999% sure there is no afterlife and no risk of being smitten by God in this life that leaves still 0.0001% chance of a one way ticket to Hell, the cost of which easily offsets the supposed gain of spending your days in this life seeking out Christian communities on the internet and harassing them. Yes, even science tells you to become a True Christian™! Praise God!


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And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.
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