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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-07-2010, 12:56 AM

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As a gay Christian myself, I find the opinions expressed in this thread highly offensive and demeaning. Moreover, they are ABSOLUTELY contrary to both the letter and the spirit of Scripture. Answer me this. Why would any person CHOOSE to be gay in a world where they are constantly mocked and vilified by the likes of some of the comments on this thread???

You need to explain how you get off accusing us of being "contrary to both the letter and spirit of Scripture", when you are the one who is a faggot.

Where in the Bible does it say to stick your tallywacker up another man's poop chute? It doesn't. But it says many times not to.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (King James Version) 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version) 22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Leviticus 20:13 (King James Version) 13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Romans 1:26-27 (King James Version) 26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

I think you are just trying to gross us out by rubbing our noses in your butt sex way of life.

Moreover I must say that I disagree with homosexuality mainly because all fags insist on raping little boys. I find this to be even worse than getting a grown man's feces all over your penis and face. Raping little boys is the worst thing about homers.

How do you answer to these allegations, faggot?


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-07-2010, 01:25 AM

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I was talking about sexual attraction, not love!
You excuse your sinning by claiming another sin equally as bad? Have you honestly never read anything in the Bible that shows God hates men who lust after men (or women for that matter).
Romans 1:18-32
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
How dare you call yourself Christian you demon-spawned homofag!


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-07-2010, 03:28 AM

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Why would any person CHOOSE to be gay?
If you is gay, it ain't cause you was born that way, so don't be frontin. It's cause yo ass made a CHOICE to diss God, so he done turnt yo ass gay, sucker. Check out Romazizzle 1:28, home-slice.


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-07-2010, 06:38 AM

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SCREEEEEECH! Stop right there, butterscotch.

It is simply not possible to be a queer and a Christian at the same time. That's like saying you're a Christian witch or a Christian vegetarian or a Christian child molester or a Christian muslim or a Christian dope addict.

Not possible. Being a queer is a sin. End of story. God hates you as long as you choose to wallow in your sinful lifestyle choice.

I am afraid it is you who are wrong my friend. God loves the world - the whole world as per John 3:16 - gays and blacks and Jews included! You might not like that, but it is the way it is. Homosexuality is nowhere condemned in Scripture.
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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-07-2010, 06:42 AM

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I am afraid it is you who are wrong my friend. God loves the world - the whole world as per John 3:16 - gays and blacks and Jews included! You might not like that, but it is the way it is. Homosexuality is nowhere condemned in Scripture.
Keep reading John 3, false Christian.


18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-07-2010, 05:04 PM

So what? What part of the world does God not love then?
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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-07-2010, 05:47 PM

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I am afraid it is you who are wrong my friend. God loves the world - the whole world as per John 3:16 - gays and blacks and Jews included! You might not like that, but it is the way it is. Homosexuality is nowhere condemned in Scripture.
What kind of dumb interpretation of Scripture is that?
That's like if I said I love my house, so I must love the termites that live in it too. Stupid of course, I love my house so I would want to annihilate the termites before they destroy my house.

Same thing with God, God loves this flat expanse of rock and water, so He sent Jesus to get rid of the sinners, as is clearly explained in John 3:16-20.

Your personal interpretation is wrong, because you made up the bit where you think God also said He loves everything that lives on the world. He did not say that! God even warned you not to do that:
Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.


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So what? What part of the world does God not love then?
Most of it.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-08-2010, 07:42 AM

Wrong, pastor!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

You say he doesn't love most of it.

Seems to me like someone is contradicting Scripture!
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Wrong, pastor!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

You say he doesn't love most of it.

Seems to me like someone is contradicting Scripture!
You didn't read one word of the scripture did you.

John 3
15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

There you go, if you still have trouble reading this, I suggest you change the settings on your monitor.


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-08-2010, 07:54 AM

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Wrong, pastor!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

You say he doesn't love most of it.

Seems to me like someone is contradicting Scripture!
Don't just pick a few words from the Bible. He wanted you to believe in him.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-08-2010, 10:37 AM

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.
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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-08-2010, 11:40 AM

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John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.
You must have failed comprehension at school. You cannot just pick a few words from a sentence. You talk like a politician who mangles his opponents words to get win votes.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-08-2010, 03:38 PM

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Homosexuality is nowhere condemned in Scripture.
So how do you interpret Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 23:17, 1 Kings 14:24, Romans 1:25-28, 1 Corinthians 6:9, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10, among others?


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-08-2010, 06:31 PM

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John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.
So you just pick and choose what to believe out of the Bible, and then you wonder why you're considered unsaved trash?

We've pointed out over and over how you are wrong, but all you do is stick your fingers in your ears like a two-year-old having a temper tantrum. Maybe once you actually grow up you'll understand. Either that or enjoy hell, whichever.


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-09-2010, 12:01 AM

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John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.
So if I read your post the same way that you read the Bible, you're saying that God doesn't love any part of it. After all...
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John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that
he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.


PROOF: Atheists are too stupid to understand the Bible!

Proverbs 13:24(KJV): "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-09-2010, 12:42 AM

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So how do you interpret Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 23:17, 1 Kings 14:24, Romans 1:25-28, 1 Corinthians 6:9, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10, among others?
I'm afraid you'll get nothing but the sound of crickets from him on that. He is desperately attempting to justify his homerism against his alleged faith.


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-09-2010, 05:36 PM

it's true. I was a fag, but after praying for the mony for my vagina operation I'm a straight.
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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-09-2010, 07:02 PM

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it's true. I was a fag, but after praying for the mony for my vagina operation I'm a straight.
That's not a vagina. It's just a mutilated penis.


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Default Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way! - 08-10-2010, 03:36 AM

Homosexuality isn't inborn, it is a corruption of the healthy sexuality into lust (depraved or sinful sexual desire), and it is based in the other sins. Ultimately, it comes down to seeing other people as threats to ones power or fame or control over other or situations, and in trying to maintain a grip on that, people go well they go very far, some even turn themselves into gays to maintain that, to sort of maintain control by creeping other people out. That's about all homosexuality is, and of course, it is extremely beastly when it becomes practiced goes even without saying everybody feels that way, our empathy or 'sense of spiritual things' tells us it's wrong, we know it is. And it is wrong because it isn't sex based on love but sex based on a sinful, evil desire for control and power.

That is why repenting of said attitude will actually cure it, and is the ONLY thing that will cure it. And that's the truth.

Tone down your social and career ambitions and you won't be gay. Learn temperance in your desires and life will be more pleasant, more beautiful, much less perverted and depraved.

Homosexuality is depraved. It comes from greed and wanting power, not from love or any sense of reason or sanity. It is sexual actions based in hate, and therefore, ALWAYS WRONG. People that are against it are right. Simply way it is. Can't change gravity and can't change that.

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