[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Praise His Holy Word:

I do not permit a woman to teach nor to have authority over a man; she must be silent. (1 Timothy 2:12)

Amen

Tea Party Minister

Not in our house, mister!

One True Christian (tm) woman is worth thousands and thousands of unsaved trash. Don't believe me? Look here.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Okay well since we've concluded that it's biblically incorrect to marry livestock, then is biblically unacceptable for an older male to wed himself with a female just out of puberty and treat her like an animal?


Also, I go to church weekly and have participated in mission trips in Hermosillo, Mexico. I've touched a Bible.

Really and I'm the queen of Siam. Isn't it fun to make up stuff on the internet

Not in our house, mister!

One True Christian ™ woman is worth thousands and thousands of unsaved trash. Don't believe me? Look here.

Thank you Pastor, you are always so protective of us.

I can guarantee that I don't speak in church. DH threatens me with duct tape if I even open my mouth.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Okay well since we've concluded that it's biblically incorrect to marry livestock, then is biblically unacceptable for an older male to wed himself with a female just out of puberty and treat her like an animal?

What if it is a Midianite woman as per Numbers 31?

Also, I go to church weekly and have participated in mission trips in Hermosillo, Mexico. I've touched a Bible.

And you didn't even take a bride? The Bible tells you what to do in that situation.
Deuteronomy 21:11-14 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.

Just remember. You cannot sell or prostitute her in that situation.

[Spreadable Butter]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Are you implying that me aiding in converting of the unsaved did more harm than good because I didn't "take a bride"? I believe that those in a third-world country that have not heard the Word is more important than taking a bride home.

[Tea_Party_Minister]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Not in our house, mister!

One True Christian (tm) woman is worth thousands and thousands of unsaved trash. Don't believe me? Look here.

I agree, Pastor. One True Christian ™ woman IS TRULY worth any number of unsaved trash. You are correct. Anyone who is unsaved is not even worthy of life and will burn in Hell for eternity.

A True Christian ™ woman is a blessing but such a woman is rare, for she must know her place next to a True Christian ™ man, as we learn in the Holy Bible KJV (1 Timothy 2:12).

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Are you implying that me aiding in converting of the unsaved did more harm than good because I didn't "take a bride"? I believe that those in a third-world country that have not heard the Word is more important than taking a bride home.

Yet you didn't know that having sex with a donkey was a sin. Exactly what Bible are you teaching these poor heathens?

I agree, Pastor. One True Christian ™ woman IS TRULY worth any number of unsaved trash. You are correct. Anyone who is unsaved is not even worthy of life and will burn in Hell for eternity.

A True Christian ™ woman is a blessing but such a woman is rare, for she must know her place next to a True Christian ™ man, as we learn in the Holy Bible KJV (1 Timothy 2:12).

Yeah, well it's not like you're a True Christian(TM) man, they're not this whiny.

[Spreadable Butter]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Yet you didn't know that having sex with a donkey was a sin. Exactly what Bible are you teaching these poor heathens?

I said that if we are supposed to treat our wives as our livestock, then why don't we just marry our livestock.

And I'm teaching them the same bible as you quote on here; the one you claim will make an unsaved person saved.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

I believe that those in a third-world country that have not heard the Word.

I feel incumbent to inquire as to how the people of Hermasillo, Sonora have never heard the Word of God? You could have fooled me.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

I said that if we are supposed to treat our wives as our livestock, then why don't we just marry our livestock.

Now the Mexicans are nothing but livestock? You racist pig!

[Spreadable Butter]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Mexico is of Catholic heritage, so obviously they don't hold the same beliefs as you do.

So you're saying that because you found some pictures of churches in what appears to be a South American country, that everybody has heard the Word there? So using your logic, just because American has churches, everyone has heard the Word? That obviously wouldn't be a true fact. We reached out to those in hospitals, homeless shelters, and foster homes; those who have no means of attending a church.


And how in the world did you conclude that I was calling the Mexicans livestock? I have strong respect for them. They brought me Taco Bell after all.

[Tea_Party_Minister]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

What if it is a Midianite woman as per Numbers 31?


And you didn't even take a bride? The Bible tells you what to do in that situation.
Deuteronomy 21:11-14 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.

Just remember. You cannot sell or prostitute her in that situation.

That seems consistent with Exodus 21:8 where a daughter has been sold but fails to please her new owner. Could you advise please, Pastor Sampson, whether any Mexican wives - once appropriated - who similarly failed to please would be permitted to return to Mexico?

Exodus 21:8c To sell her vnto a strange nation hee shall haue no power
©1611

[unclepaco]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

There's a difference between being the head of the household and family and being inconsiderate and emotionally abusive to your wife.

agreed

[True Disciple]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

Isn't sinning relative though? To some people here, simply using the Internet could be a sin because of its high proportion of pornographic websites. To others, murder wouldn't even fall under a sin. Sin is simply an opinion.

If that is so, where did Jesus die for? For just another "opinion?" Are you trying to force atheist immorality on our children?

In relation to this topic, if we are to treat women as we do our livestock, then why don't we just marry our donkeys?

Friend, you don't seem to understand the way we think here at Landover. We follow the Bible in every respect, not just the John 3:16-related parts, but also the Deuteronomy 22:28-29-related parts.

And the Bible says that women are property (I refer again to all the Scripture I quoted in my OP), but the Bible also forbids bestiality. After all, women are property just like livestock, but that does not mean that they are livestock. We also own cars, houses and refrigerators, but that does not mean that we consider women to be refrigerators. That would make no sense, would it?

That seems consistent with Exodus 21:8 where a daughter has been sold but fails to please her new owner. Could you advise please, Pastor Sampson, whether any Mexican wives - once appropriated - who similarly failed to please would be permitted to return to Mexico?

Exodus 21:8c To sell her vnto a strange nation hee shall haue no power
©1611

Well, not as slaves, because Mexico definitely classifies as a "strange country." If secular law would permit it, however, it would be allowed to sell her to other Americans, as the Bible explicitly mentions strange countries here, which means that this Law doesn't apply to our own country.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Women are property of men, just like donkeys!

..Well, not as slaves, because Mexico definitely classifies as a "strange country." If secular law would permit it, however, it would be allowed to sell her to other Americans, as the Bible explicitly mentions strange countries here, which means that this Law doesn't apply to our own country..

Thank you for clarifying that. I had thought that was what The Bible indicated.

In which case - under Biblical Law, as clearly set out by God - the question arises as to when Mexico (in the case of a Mexican) becomes a strange nation, unto her? It wasn't one before any bride-price would have been paid: she would have been Mexican. (I am not referring to immigration laws here, but to the woman's "spiritual contition" I suppose: originally she would have been "spiritually" Mexican: when turned out for not pleasing… Mexico would have attained “strange nation” status & she would therefore have become "spiritually" not Mexican).

When would that transition take place?

For example if I were sold to an Indian Ocean island cannibal - his island would be a “strange land” - and failed to please him so that he developed a spontaneous hatred for me, jettisoning me from his establishment, would I then be stuck on the island (my current home having become “strange”), and would I adopt the Island identity upon payment of the bride-price, upon marriage or upon arrival at the island?

If I didn't become "spiritually” an islander until I actually got there I think that I'd prefer my new proprietor to discover his spontaneous hatred before taking me.