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Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 04:59 PM

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Show me wars where religion was not involved.

You, sir, are being disingenuous. You call a war an "atheist war" if the specific reason for the war is not "invasion to promote the Word of God".

An "atheist war" would be a war fought by atheists and without invoking of religion. Essentially EVERY war involves the invocation of religion, whether we are talking about the Nazis' holy war to cleanse Europe of the Jewish pestilence or the American crusade against Islamofascists.
I'm sorry this is like the 3rd time I've sat here telling you the same thing, I get the feeling you are under 18....

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72,000,000[2] World War II - 6,000,000 jews in the holocaust.
36,000,000[5] An Shi Rebellion
60,000,000[7] Mongol Conquests
25,000,000 Manchu conquest of the Ming Dynasty
30,000,000 [10] Taiping Rebellion
19,000,000 World War I.
9,000,000[14] Russian Civil War


136m deaths from non-religious wars is bigger then 36m in religiously motivated conflict. I notice you like to wait for me to post a further message to someone else without these figures included in the so you can pretend they don't exist. Funny.
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Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 08:46 PM

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I'm sorry this is like the 3rd time I've sat here telling you the same thing, I get the feeling you are under 18....

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72,000,000[2] World War II - 6,000,000 jews in the holocaust.
36,000,000[5] An Shi Rebellion
60,000,000[7] Mongol Conquests
25,000,000 Manchu conquest of the Ming Dynasty
30,000,000 [10] Taiping Rebellion
19,000,000 World War I.
9,000,000[14] Russian Civil War
DIMWIT, these are not "atheist wars".

How many times must I tell you the same thing?

An "atheist war" would be a war fought without invoking religion. Religion was invoked in WWII, by both the Nazis (Gott Mit Uns, the Holy Crusade to destroy the Jewish pestilence) and the Allies. How can that be an "atheist war"?

Do you claim the Mongols had no religion? The Chinese had no religion?

Communist revolutions are atheist wars. That's about it.

In essentially every other case, the prime motivation for the leaders may have been resources or territory -- which does NOT mean they are atheists, it means they are Satanists or False Christians -- but the prime motivation for the warriors was (and is) religion.


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DIMWIT, these are not "atheist wars".

How many times must I tell you the same thing?

An "atheist war" would be a war fought without invoking religion. Religion was invoked in WWII, by both the Nazis (Gott Mit Uns, the Holy Crusade to destroy the Jewish pestilence) and the Allies. How can that be an "atheist war"?

Do you claim the Mongols had no religion? The Chinese had no religion?

Communist revolutions are atheist wars. That's about it.

In essentially every other case, the prime motivation for the leaders may have been resources or territory -- which does NOT mean they are atheists, it means they are Satanists or False Christians -- but the prime motivation for the warriors was (and is) religion.
If a catholic punches a catholic for stealing his banana, is that a religious conflict? No, same if you add in another religion, say a catholic punches a hindu for stealing his banana.

If the catholic punched the hindu "in the name of god, because god demanded it and the hindu should be catholic" then yeah that's bringing religion into it.

I've granted you that the holocaust was a religious conflict, but WW2 certainly wasn't. The war was a political war. Like all the others bar the taiping, that I've listed.

However if your definition is so vague that you were saying "if a person is religious and they enter into a conflict, it is automatically a religious conflict" even if the motivation, like the wars I've listed, was not religious, but were political, that is STILL a religious conflict, I'd agree with you.

But then I'd point you your definition is too vague. And frankly, you'd be trolling me. I know I'd be feeding the troll, but if it is in the name of Christ, I'll do it all day.
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If a catholic punches a catholic for stealing his banana, is that a religious conflict? No, same if you add in another religion, say a catholic punches a hindu for stealing his banana.

If the catholic punched the hindu "in the name of god, because god demanded it and the hindu should be catholic" then yeah that's bringing religion into it.
No, I'm saying that if a Hindu stole a Christian's banana, and the Christian called up thousands of troops to destroy the Hindu's country because they were God-hating heathens as evidenced by the Hindu's theft of the banana, then it's not an "atheist" conflict. It is a religiously-motivated conflict, at least in the eyes of the on-the-ground participants.

Get it yet? Are you really that slow, or are you just being obstinate for lack of anything better to do? I know from your other posts that your motivation has nothing to do with Christ, so don't try that nonsense with me, son!


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No, I'm saying that if a Hindu stole a Christian's banana, and the Christian called up thousands of troops to destroy the Hindu's country because they were God-hating heathens as evidenced by the Hindu's theft of the banana, then it's not an "atheist" conflict. It is a religiously-motivated conflict, at least in the eyes of the on-the-ground participants.

Get it yet? Are you really that slow, or are you just being obstinate for lack of anything better to do? I know from your other posts that your motivation has nothing to do with Christ, so don't try that nonsense with me, son!
Hah, my dear boy, you describe merely the second sentence of my post. Yes, if he rounded up an army to kill a bunch of hindus because they were God hating heathens yes, that's a religious conflict.

But WW2 (bar holocaust) for example certainly wasn't a religious conflict. The war was a political war. Like all the others bar the taiping, that I've listed.

However if your definition is so vague that you were saying "if a person is religious and they enter into a conflict, it is automatically a religious conflict" even if the motivation, like the wars I've listed, was not religious, but were political, that is STILL a religious conflict, I'd agree with you.

But then I'd point you your definition is too vague. And frankly, you'd be trolling me. I know I'd be feeding the troll, but if it is in the name of Christ, I'll do it all day.
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Hah, my dear boy, you describe merely the second sentence of my post. Yes, if he rounded up an army to kill a bunch of hindus because they were God hating heathens yes, that's a religious conflict.

But WW2 (bar holocaust) for example certainly wasn't a religious conflict. The war was a political war. Like all the others bar the taiping, that I've listed.

However if your definition is so vague that you were saying "if a person is religious and they enter into a conflict, it is automatically a religious conflict" even if the motivation, like the wars I've listed, was not religious, but were political, that is STILL a religious conflict, I'd agree with you.

But then I'd point you your definition is too vague. And frankly, you'd be trolling me. I know I'd be feeding the troll, but if it is in the name of Christ, I'll do it all day.
WWII was a religious conflict because religion was used to motivate the troops. They fought a holy war, regardless of what YOU think the leaders wanted. The Nazis were motivated by their believed God-given right to supremacy and the need to exterminate the Christ-killing Juden. The Allies likewise used religion to motivate soldiers.

Religion is the primary soldier motivation for nearly all wars, and you don't get a war without motivated soldiers. You have yet to show me a war in which religion did not motivate the soldiers, and you have yet to show me an "atheist" war. Cutting and pasting your old posts simply demonstrates that you recognize that you have no leg to stand upon.

I have acknowledged that Communist revolutions are atheist wars.

Meanwhile, there are very few True Christian™ wars, either.


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Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 11:46 PM

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I'm sorry this is like the 3rd time I've sat here telling you the same thing, I get the feeling you are under 18....

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72,000,000[2] World War II - 6,000,000 jews in the holocaust.
36,000,000[5] An Shi Rebellion
60,000,000[7] Mongol Conquests
25,000,000 Manchu conquest of the Ming Dynasty
30,000,000 [10] Taiping Rebellion
19,000,000 World War I.
9,000,000[14] Russian Civil War


136m deaths from non-religious wars is bigger then 36m in religiously motivated conflict. I notice you like to wait for me to post a further message to someone else without these figures included in the so you can pretend they don't exist. Funny.
Seems to me most of those wars were started by Satanists, out to kill as many Christians (and Joos) as possible. No doubt in an attempt to further gain Satanic control over the World. Remember, any religion which doesn't worship God, worships the Devil.

Do you honestly expect us to believe that Hitler, a Pope-worshipping Nazi Occultist nutbag, didn't start the WWII for religious reasons?

Or look at the Russian Civil War you mention, which led to the decline of Church power in Russia. When the Bolsheviks took power in 1917 this led to the separation of Church and State, the freedom of Anti-Religious propaganda in Russia, and the removal of religious influence from Russian society. Something the Bolsheviks wanted from the start.
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Hah, my dear boy, you describe merely the second sentence of my post. Yes, if he rounded up an army to kill a bunch of hindus because they were God hating heathens yes, that's a religious conflict.

But WW2 (bar holocaust) for example certainly wasn't a religious conflict. The war was a political war. Like all the others bar the taiping, that I've listed.

However if your definition is so vague that you were saying "if a person is religious and they enter into a conflict, it is automatically a religious conflict" even if the motivation, like the wars I've listed, was not religious, but were political, that is STILL a religious conflict, I'd agree with you.

But then I'd point you your definition is too vague. And frankly, you'd be trolling me. I know I'd be feeding the troll, but if it is in the name of Christ, I'll do it all day.
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I would like to weigh in here a bit. I agree most wars are started over secterian issues such as land, energy and resources. However there is always a religious tone and this inevitably becomes gets drawn into as a major reason for the conflict once propaganda kicks in. After all, if you going to convince people to kill and die you are going to need some compelling reasons.

The Catholics are very expert at twisting religion for purposes such as this. We have also discussed that the unGodly Nazis still saw it necessary to draw in religious iconography to help further there cause.

In specific regards to WWII, all the great leaders made weighty speeches of the correctness of their cause by aligning God's purpose onto their side. Even that heathen Stalin reinstated the church and stopped killing the priests and recruited them into the war effort.

That's the historical viewpoint. Now for the Herr Doktor view point. Yes, wars should be waged in the name of God. It is only correct and right to do so. This way you can be sure that your enemies deserve to die and that you are going to heaven if a mishap should fall.

Not only is it right, but it also practical. Numbers in the Bible sets out some nice little protocols in siege warfare and the ensuing aftermath. That spells out fun times for the Godly!

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Ok, people, Hitler was very vocal, all guns blazing on religion when it came to the Holocaust. (He has a Catholic). I have said all along, the Holocaust was a religious affair.

But Nazi Germany was founded on the one thing that tied Germans (a new state) together, and that was their philosophers. The Nazi Philosophy was a skewed version of Nietzsche. The Nazi ideal was loosely tied (I say this because of his vile sister who took over from him) to Nietzsche's "Ubermensch" idea, that humans, without God, should become godly figures themselves, able to govern themselves. Nietzsche believed God was dead, and it was time to rule without God.

That's why you hardly see any religious propaganda for the Nazis (the best you can do is a belt that a few troops wore), despite the fact that Germany has been a religious hot spot throughout history.

The other major contributors to the death tolls were of course the the communists in Russia and China, who we all agree, I think, hated religion.

As for the other wars, let me go through them. The An Shi rebellion was totally about power - religion didn't come into it as a factor at all. The same is true with the manchu overthrowing of the Ming dynasty, Manchus had special customs, granted, but they were not religious, all the Chinese were the same religion, Buddhist, just with different spin off beliefs. The beliefs were not in question over the fighting, though.

The mongols specifically allowed religion to be a non-factor when they invaded places, allowing religious freedom to all people. Priests of every religion were even exempt from tax! So religion was not fought over, only land and power.

World war 1, again, religion was certainly not the root cause. Shooting Franz Ferdinand was not done in God's name, was it.

And finally the Russian civil war was communist. The commies killed literally in the name of communism. Not religion.
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That's why you hardly see any religious propaganda for the Nazis (the best you can do is a belt that a few troops wore), despite the fact that Germany has been a religious hot spot throughout history..
I think there's more out there than a few belt buckles. I'll just tackle this bit:

All pics from: http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm



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Cardinal Secretary of State, Eugenio Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII) signs the Concordat between Nazi Germany and the Vatican at a formal ceremony in Rome on 20 July 1933. Nazi Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen sits at the left, Pacelli in the middle, and the Rudolf Buttmann sits at the right.



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Hitler's Brown Army attending and leaving church services. These photos were published by Nazis during Hitler's reign.


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Priests giving the Hitler salute at a Catholic youth rally in the Berlin-Neukolln stadium in August 1933.
I've kept it short, but there is a tonne of stuff out there showing Nazi's attempting to align themselves with God, even found pics from the actual war. They all did.

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Anyway, these are all mute points. This is my position without get lost in postulating: Only True Wars™ conducted in God's name can be considered a war at all. Otherwise it's just a rabble brawling.

I consider WWII a religious war because every commie shot was a victory for God.

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You got me thinking Unfalsifiable.

OK, based on all that you said I think we can divide wars into two categories.

1. True Wars™
2. Godless rabbles brawling.

True Wars™ are religous and involve God. Godless rabbles brawling are just that, Godless rabbles brawling

I consider all American engagements in the 20th Century to be True Wars™. For instance, it involved killing Nazi's, Commies or baby killers. Clearly this is Godly and therefore a religious war.

Brawling like the Russian Civil War can not be considered a war at all as it lacked God's involvement. It was just a very large brawl. However, I am open to the idea that the White Russians may have stood for God as they opposed the Reds. But the thing is, they lost. So there is something smelly there. If God was involved and on their side, they would have won.




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You got me thinking Unfalsifiable.

OK, based on all that you said I think we can divide wars into two categories.

1. True Wars™
2. Godless rabbles brawling.

True Wars™ are religous and involve God. Godless rabbles brawling are just that, Godless rabbles brawling

I consider all American engagements in the 20th Century to be True Wars™. For instance, it involved killing Nazi's, Commies or baby killers. Clearly this is Godly and therefore a religious war.

Brawling like the Russian Civil War can not be considered a war at all as it lacked God's involvement. It was just a very large brawl. However, I am open to the idea that the White Russians may have stood for God as they opposed the Reds. But the thing is, they lost. So there is something smelly there. If God was involved and on their side, they would have won.
Good point Brother Herr. I'd add the French Revolution as well. I mean seriously, who's side would God possibly be on? A bunch of garlic eating, unwashed, reeking, stinking half-retard mary worshiping french trash on one side, and a garlic-eating, unwashed, reeking, stinking half-retard mary worshiping sodomite king on the other. Who cares? Not Jesus, that's for sure.


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Good point Brother Herr. I'd add the French Revolution as well. I mean seriously, who's side would God possibly be on? A bunch of garlic eating, unwashed, reeking, stinking half-retard mary worshiping french trash on one side, and a garlic-eating, unwashed, reeking, stinking half-retard mary worshiping sodomite king on the other. Who cares? Not Jesus, that's for sure.
But difficulties arise! Whereas the French fighting anywhere must be a Godless Brawl, what of The Civil War? Here we have God’s favourite nation on both sides and, although Landover never actually fought or sent troops, Landover’s support was for the Confederacy.

Was this a religious war or a Godless Rabble brawling? Or neither?

To find an answer, I consulted
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And a little of the history of General Lee: Let us look at this extract from Lee's 1856 letter to his wife,
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... In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.
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Here we see the parallels: Judah’s faith did not stretch to believing that he could defeat the iron chariots and God was displeased in the lack of faith – Judah therefore was defeated in his purpose and God changed His plan.

Likewise at the start of the Civil War, General Lee’s faith was strong in the Word of God on Slavery, yet we see that after the war, his doubts and waivering faith had lead God to allow the defeat of the South. Again we see a defeat and God changing His plan. That Landover nevertheless prospered, as its faith in slavery never waned, is shown here. God rewarded Landover.

Thus the answer to the question, “Was this a religious war or a Godless Rabble brawling? Or neither?” must be that it was a religious war and a lesson in losing faith.





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Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-31-2008, 03:36 PM

how many wars have been started in the name of god?
how many wars have been started in the name of the devil?

dates and times please?
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how many wars have been started in the name of the devil?

dates and times please?
Um, every non-True Christian war is fought in the name of the devil, be they catholics, muslims or atheists.


And Herr Doktor, although I heartily agree with your new definition of wars, I have to say, the Nazis were in cahoots with the Catholics, but that doesn't make the Nazis Catholics... far from it. It's confusing, you see, if someone was in cahoots with Landover, then fought a war, it would be religious, for to be in cahoots with Landover, you'd have to be a True Christian. But with the Catholics, they are like an organization, to get in cahoots with them, you just need to please them in terms of money and politics, really you don't need to be one of them OR believe in what they believe in.

Hence why many Germans were Nietzscheians and even other religions (i.e. Hitlers Muslim Nazi units).

Plus, as I say, theres many non religiously motivated wars besides ww2 that add the numbers up - atheist wars kill way more people then religious ones.
(Remember, that is the WAR being FOUGHT OVER religion, not whether the people themselves believed in God)
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Thus the answer to the question, “Was this a religious war or a Godless Rabble brawling? Or neither?” must be that it was a religious war and a lesson in losing faith.
You certainly propose a tricky question Brother. I deliberately did not include the American Civil War in any previous discussion dividing wars into two categories. (True War™ and Godless Rabbles Brawling.)

Maybe this is a question we can take to Landover University and then we can see what shakes out of the tin.

However, one thing does bear to mind. History moves in a long/slow pattern and the law of causality does apply. It may be that the Civil War and it's consequences are still very much in play. Landover has never forgotten. The people of Freehold are just biding their time for the government to wake up to their senses.

And finally, I would like to add, though this is a huge leap and I can understand why other True Christians™ may disagree. There was one victor in the war and it was not the Union and it was not the other states in the Confederacy. It was Landover, after all Landover has succeeded from the Union has it not? Was not that the main objective of the Confederate states? Was this not the stated and true objective (not the abolition nonsense) of the Union, stopping the South from succeeding?




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Um, every non-True Christian war is fought in the name of the devil, be they catholics, muslims or atheists.


And Herr Doktor, although I heartily agree with your new definition of wars, I have to say, the Nazis were in cahoots with the Catholics, but that doesn't make the Nazis Catholics... far from it. It's confusing, you see, if someone was in cahoots with Landover, then fought a war, it would be religious, for to be in cahoots with Landover, you'd have to be a True Christian. But with the Catholics, they are like an organization, to get in cahoots with them, you just need to please them in terms of money and politics, really you don't need to be one of them OR believe in what they believe in.

Hence why many Germans were Nietzscheians and even other religions (i.e. Hitlers Muslim Nazi units).

Plus, as I say, theres many non religiously motivated wars besides ww2 that add the numbers up - atheist wars kill way more people then religious ones.
(Remember, that is the WAR being FOUGHT OVER religion, not whether the people themselves believed in God)
It's been very educational talking to you. I have been able to settle a few things in my mind.



To witt:
  • Nazis are Godless pigs and were in bed with the Catholics. (I was very aware of that). The war from their perspective was politically motivated by satan in the form of the Pope and Hitler. You can call that atheistic if you wish, it's certainly on the other end of Godly. Nazis are a Godless rabble.
  • America stood for goodness and the arch-angel Gabriel waved his flaming sword above the brave GIs as they beat off the Teutonic menace and the Nipponese octopus. They were True Soldiers™ fighting a True War™.
So yes, you have convinced me with your arguments that there are non-religious wars. However, these wars are not wars, they are Godless Rabbles Brawling. Then there are religious wars, these are True Wars™.

Your are a very intelligent young man and as you can see by my summary of our discussion, we are all now in agreement.




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[...]And finally, I would like to add, though this is a huge leap and I can understand why other True Christians™ may disagree. There was one victor in the war and it was not the Union and it was not the other states in the Confederacy. It was Landover, after all Landover has succeeded from the Union has it not? Was not that the main objective of the Confederate states? Was this not the stated and true objective (not the abolition nonsense) of the Union, stopping the South from succeeding?
Indeed, forced integration was the Unionist aim thinly disguised as anti-God, anti-Slavery.

It was not until 1959 that Landover became aware that it was still at war with the Union and thus not a part of it. Thereafter, Landover started to integrate into the Union. A process which under the GWB administration has proven relatively painless with the President accepting much guidance on policy from Landover in return. However, under demoncrat regimes any progress at all has been tediously slow.

As I was browsing through some archives, I came across this picture of our last legally held slaves - 1960 if I recall aright.





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I see. The important thing here I think, is that Landover did not surrender in 1865 and therefore it was never a victory for the North.

As you point out, Freehold entered into a negotiated peace with the Union in 1959.

The question is tricky but by no means gloomy. The Civil War being a True War™, for Landover at least, is a distinct possibility. I think we should bring this question to the History Department at LU.

BTW. The authenticity of the picture you submit is no-doubt genuine. I know for a fact that over-sized bowler hats were very popular among Nigras with a perchance to steal pies during the 1950s and 1960s.




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