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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 03-12-2017, 09:15 PM

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This is an example what we Catholics belieive! I will pray for everyone, and hope to see you all in the kingdom some day with our Lord, Jesus!!

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Hello John.

Welcome to the forum. Is copy-pasting the only thing you can do? Do you even understand what you posted? Anyway, this is a friendly forum and when you join you are expected to have some forum decorum. That would include you introducing yourself in the introduction forum where you can start your own thread and tell us a bit about yourself. It´s a polite thing to do.

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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 03-12-2017, 09:17 PM

“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
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to give his apostles, and all of us, a deeper understanding of who he is
I'm not sure what you mean by "us" but anyway even the shallowest understanding of Jesus would appreciate the full horror of idols. The literature describing Jesus has no greater castigation than for idolators. No topic is more frequently covered throughout The Bible and even the most cursory glance would reveal this almost immediately. It seems to me that you have not understood this. Perhaps in your introduction you could address this point, it could be that I've misunderstood God's position.

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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 03-12-2017, 09:22 PM

Thank you. I will do that. and yes I understand every word I posted.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "us" but anyway even the shallowest understanding of Jesus would appreciate the full horror of idols. [...]
Hello Mitza,

It boggles my mind that these self proclaimed followers of the Bible, like this one, can so easily dismiss that same Bible. This John should read Exodus 34:14, it´s in the second chapter. This makes me think: How much of the Bible did he read anyway?

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“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
Fulton J. Sheen
I see that Fulton J. Sheen was Bishop of Rochester, which is not far from our family home. Rochester is a bit of a dump, but it does have quite an attractive cathedral, with the rather squat spire so typical of the region.



Such a shame about the derelict dockyards in the background.


I was surprised, though, to learn that (as recently as the 1960s) an Anglican cathedral had a bishop who was both an American and a Roman Catholic. This only goes to confirm that the Church of England remains, at heart, a papist tool.


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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 03-16-2017, 09:34 AM

As a proud catholic and hopeful seminarian i find your whole article morally offensive and completely unchristian.
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As a proud catholic and hopeful seminarian i find your whole article morally offensive and completely unchristian.
Thank you, dear sinner, for visiting our Forum. You've stated your opinion but it would be swell if you could also justify your opinion with some actual referenced content.

Meanwhile, I am very eager to discuss some facets of the Catholic fate and your Muslim Pope with you. Please, I've tried to ask many other members of your cult about these issues but they avoid them. So, please explain the following strange and fearsome aspects of your doctrine to me and my Brethren:
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

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As a proud catholic and hopeful seminarian i find your whole article morally offensive and completely unchristian.
The establishment in Rome has done nothing less than preserve the very idolatrous paganism Jesus came to deliver us from.

What is there to be proud of in that? If I am mistaken perhaps you could point out where I've gone wrong. It is not my intention to attribute the monumental blasphemy of idolatry most especially involving idols of Jesus where is is unwarranted.
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As a proud catholic and hopeful seminarian i find your whole article morally offensive and completely unchristian.
I don't believe you. I think rather, you find it emotionally upsetting and hope to find something, anything, to take the focus off your guilt and embarrassment for being affiliated with such a humiliating organization.


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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- It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.
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If you are not supposed to have images of Jesus, why do you allow an icon or an image of Jesus on this site?
We are not venerating them, bowing to them or lighting candles to it. In fact, we know it's not even Jesus. It's a model the artist hired to sit in as Jesus. Not the same at all.

But way to ignore all the rest of it.

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We are not venerating them, bowing to them or lighting candles to it. In fact, we know it's not even Jesus. It's a model the artist hired to sit in as Jesus. Not the same at all.

But way to ignore all the rest of it.

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It is true of course, that you are not bowing to the image of Jesus. But some Christians will say that you are not supposed to make a sacred image? Is it OK to make sacred images and to post them on the internet as long as you do not bow down to them? Your site allows the posting of an image of Jesus?
Exodus 20:4
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It is true of course, that you are not bowing to the image of Jesus. But some Christians will say that you are not supposed to make a sacred image? Is it OK to make sacred images and to post them on the internet as long as you do not bow down to them? Your site allows the posting of an image of Jesus?
Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."
Again It's an artist's rendition of a model, of a person who may or may not have looked like Jesus in His human form.


Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.



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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 05-03-2017, 04:49 AM

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[B]Exodus 20:4

"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."
This is what happens when people won't read the Authorized text. The quoted verse is as follows:
EXODUS 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. context .. kjv
A picture is not a graven image. Not only engraving is condemned. Carving, as of wood, or molten metals cast are also abominations. This would include woodcuts and other engravings.
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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 05-03-2017, 06:26 AM

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Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Does not this quote show that good works are required for salvation?
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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 05-03-2017, 06:32 AM

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This is what happens when people won't read the Authorized text. The quoted verse is as follows:
EXODUS 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. context .. kjv
A picture is not a graven image. Not only engraving is condemned. Carving, as of wood, or molten metals cast are also abominations. This would include woodcuts and other engravings.
It says any likeness of any thing in heaven. Whether or not the artist has used a model for his portrayal of Jesus is irrelevant to the fact that the result is a representation of Jesus. Either sacred images are forbidden or not. Since your church allows the posting on the international world wide internet of a sacred representation of Jesus it means that you allow sacred images and as such you are dead wrong to condemn Catholics for doing the same.
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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 05-03-2017, 07:00 AM

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The roman catholic "Church" is Not Christian.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Saved, in part, by good works.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - ... The good works don't make him saved only the blood of Jesus can do that. ...
Here's what Jesus said:
Matthew 25:31-46New International Version (NIV)

The Sheep and the Goats

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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Default Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians - 05-03-2017, 07:22 AM

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Here's what Jesus said:
Matthew 25:31-46New International Version (NIV)

The Sheep and the Goats

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

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For behold, the Lord wil come with fire, and with his charets like a whirlewinde, to render his anger with furie, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
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The King James version says the same thing:31 nWhen the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the oholy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And pbefore him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall qseparate them one from another, as a shepherd qdivideth hisrsheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep son his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall tthe King say unto uthem on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, winherit xthe kingdom yprepared for you zfrom the foundation of the world: 35 aFor I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was ba stranger, and ye ctook me in: 36 dNaked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye evisited me: fI was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And tthe King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, gInasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, hDepart from me, ye cursed, iinto everlasting fire, ykprepared for lthe devil and lmhis angels: 42 For I nwas an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not ominister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, pInasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into qeverlasting punishment: but the righteous into qrlife eternal.
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