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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 02-22-2009, 11:40 PM

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I know people who still do it and i tell them about the dangers, but if they don't listen, that is their problem.I won't judge them.

but I am against it (now).
Young lady, if you were Saved© you COULD judge those dope-heads.

God commands the righteous (True Christians™) to judge unsaved scum like you and your drug-addled friends. It's a nice side benefit of accept Jesus as your Personal Savior. Just one more reason to give up your current life of sin and perversion.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 02-23-2009, 07:33 PM

Well, maybe you are right, BUT:

Your bible says what you do is good

My bible says what I do is good

The jews have another book, and the muslims to and ....

I can't proof my religion is the one and only good one? but so can't you. no-one had any prove about it.

so I will stick woth my religion and hope it is a good one.

BTW: did you know there are hippies that adore your bible because they think it says smoking dope is good?

That is how I ended up at the site. A friend of me (yes, one of those hippie people) was shocked that there are also other people believing in the King James Bible, and he was even more shocked that you are against drugs :s
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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 02-23-2009, 08:00 PM

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Well, maybe you are right, BUT:

Your bible says what you do is good

My bible says what I do is good

The jews have another book,
Wrong. The Jews have part of our book. They just ignore the parts they don't like . . . kinda like you are doing.

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I can't proof my religion is the one and only good one? but so can't you. no-one had any prove about it.
The Bible says so. It's God's Word. He'd change it if it were a lie.

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BTW: did you know there are hippies that adore your bible because they think it says smoking dope is good?
No, because they think it makes good rolling paper. They came here and said so.

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That is how I ended up at the site. A friend of me (yes, one of those hippie people) was shocked that there are also other people believing in the King James Bible, and he was even more shocked that you are against drugs :s
Yes, he told us all about how he believes cannabis, which has never been proven to be present in the Mediterranean region until at least 400 AD, was used in the anointing oil made by Moses in 2500-3000 BC, and that Jews couldn't possibly have had calamus, even though it was used in Egypt -- the place Moses led the Jews from in the Exodus -- as an aphrodisiac at the time of the Captivity.

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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 02-24-2009, 12:53 PM

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Well, maybe you are right, BUT:

Your bible says what you do is good

My bible says what I do is good

The jews have another book, and the muslims to and ....
And guess what? Only one of them is right. THIS ONE.


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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 02-24-2009, 09:52 PM

but how can you be sure about it? Because in my religion God says my bible is the right one...
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but how can you be sure about it? Because in my religion God says my bible is the right one...
What religion are you talking about? Satanism?
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but how can you be sure about it? Because in my religion God says my bible is the right one...
There's only one Bible.


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I didn't wrote it.
Did you went to school?
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No you don't. You're just trying to make yourself look stupid. It's working.
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Did you went to school?
yes I did. And now I'm going for my second college diploma. I speek Dutch but I understand, speak an wright English. With a lot of mistakes, but you all get what I mean.

Do you speak or even understand Dutch? or Frensh? or Spanish. All the other languages that I speak ...

And now that I am talking about your language: just a question. Why is I with a capital? I never got that.
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No Allllie, that is NOT an invitation to come up with your French (Frensh?) again.


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yes I did. And now I'm going for my second college diploma. I speek Dutch but I understand, speak an wright English. With a lot of mistakes, but you all get what I mean.

Do you speak or even understand Dutch? Dutch is gibberish. or French? Yes, I speak French fluently. or Spanish. I can usually understand Spanish, because it's similar to French, but it helps if I can see it written while hearing it spoken. Same goes for Italian. All the other languages that I speak ...

And now that I am talking about your language: just a question. Why is I with a capital? I never got that.
Check out GrammarBook.com. There, all your English questions shall be answered.
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No Alie, that is NOT an invitation to come up with your French (Frensh?) again.
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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 03-01-2009, 04:09 PM

I find this entire thread very disturbing. If we had a rating system, I would give it an XXX! This whole subject of Jesus smoking the Devil's Weed is a result of the liberalization of the image of Jesus. We have Negro Jesus, Latin Jesus, Oriental Jesus, and Arab Jesus, so of course we have Marijuana Messiah! The only real Jesus is Caucasian and has blond hair and blue eyes (and he wouldn't go near drugs!) DISGUSTED MOTHER GLENDORA


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*Mutters in French*
Moutonner? Moutonnier?

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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 05-06-2009, 03:20 AM

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And guess what? Only one of them is right. THIS ONE.
How do you know that your religion is right? What if your (human) perception of God is 100% wrong? What if you did not read the Bible like God himself wrote it? What if, after all the years since it was written, it has been changed by someone who didn't like a certain type of person (homosexuals, for example)? There is no possible way to prove that your religion is right or even in existence.

But that is what religion is about. It is about believing in the unknown and that there is something after this lifetime. Whether it be Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, 72 virgins, or whatever. I personally believe that there is a Heaven and a Hell, but whose to say that I am right about that. I just have to believe that God does in fact exist and that there is a place in the afterlife.

It seems that I've gone on a miniature rant here, but the real reason that I posted here is to see someone prove that their religion is the "right religion." I think that my religion is right, and there's probably nothing you can do to change my way of thinking, but I have no way of proving that it is right. I could use some Bible verses for proof, but whose to say that it is right or if it is something made up like Joseph Smith's "Book of Mormon"?

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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 05-06-2009, 03:28 AM

Oh, ye of little faith, what is it that you seek? Proof of God and his miracles? Proof is not needed to be saved, only faith. What else is there to be faithful to? Runescape?


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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 05-06-2009, 03:34 AM

Katy, you need to take a look at THIS section, which explains our church Doctrines. Here's a sample:

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If you are a Muslim, Catholic, Pagan, or other non-Christian, and you are here for some interfaith dialog, then this section is for you.

Welcome, friend. If you are here in a spirit of peace and wish to learn more about our religion, and want to teach us more about your religion, then you are welcome here. If you are here because you think we are intolerant of your religion, then please go back and read the previous section.

Keep in mind, however, that most of us are well educated. If your religion has been around for a while and has a large enough following, then it is likely that we have already studied your religion in depth.

Also keep in mind, that our religion tells us that salvation comes only through Jesus Christ, and that if you aren't a Christian, then you will be damned to the fiery pits of Hell for all eternity. We aren't gloating about this. We treat this fact with all of the solemnity that it deserves. We will not give up on you until we have saved you from this fate.
You also need to stop derailing threads with your childish rants. I made a thread for you in the "introductions" section, so kindly stick to that one.

I am relieved that you haven't sunk so low as to try and defend the use of narcotics like marijuana though. I had heard that all of the Democrats up there in Alaska use dope on a daily basis.


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Default Re: Bible and canabis - 05-06-2009, 04:14 AM

Actually I think that marijuana is not that bad. If God created it along with other plants, then why shouldn't we use it? In this instance, I am talking about the medical benefits of THC within the plant. It is like using the morphine in the hospital--without it, many simple procedures (lumbar puncture, intubating, etc.) would painful during and after. I think that marijuana has many medical uses that can be taken advantage of including the reduction of nausea and vomiting in cancer patients and the stimulation of appetite in undernourished patients.

I also think that it is okay to be used recreationally. It is no worse than alcohol which is okay to use. In fact, in many instances, alcohol is proven to be more dangerous than marijuana. One example is that it is safer to drive while under the influence of marijuana rather than alcohol. While intoxicated with marijuana, the driver is more aware of his or her surroundings, thus he or she tends to drive slower. Being under the influence of alcohol, on the other hand, makes the driver less aware of the surroundings, therefore making him or her drive faster. There are more reasons that marijuana is safer, but I don't want to bore you all with facts.

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Actually I think that marijuana is not that bad. If God created it along with other plants, then why shouldn't we use it?

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Actually I think that marijuana is not that bad. If God created it along with other plants, then why shouldn't we use it?
The poppy plant was also created by God. Do you support the smoking of opium? The mainlining of heroin? Are you a druggie?

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In this instance, I am talking about the medical benefits of THC within the plant. It is like using the morphine in the hospital--without it, many simple procedures (lumbar puncture, intubating, etc.) would painful during and after. I think that marijuana has many medical uses that can be taken advantage of including the reduction of nausea and vomiting in cancer patients and the stimulation of appetite in undernourished patients.
Can you provide evidence, other than anecdotal evidence, to support your statement that marijuana has medicinal benefits?

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I also think that it is okay to be used recreationally. It is no worse than alcohol which is okay to use. In fact, in many instances, alcohol is proven to be more dangerous than marijuana. One example is that it is safer to drive while under the influence of marijuana rather than alcohol. While intoxicated with marijuana, the driver is more aware of his or her surroundings, thus he or she tends to drive slower. Being under the influence of alcohol, on the other hand, makes the driver less aware of the surroundings, therefore making him or her drive faster.
Please provide evidence that it is safe to drive under the influence of marijuana. According to www.norml.org (which I’m sure you are a member),
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What facts? So far, all you have provided are personal justifications for breaking the law.


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Sometimes God forces people to eat other people, often their own children or other family members.

"I also will do this unto you... You shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it." -- Leviticus 26:16

"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." -- Leviticus 26:29

"And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters." -- Deuteronomy 28:53

"And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them." -- Deuteronomy 28:57

"Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother. And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm." -- Isaiah 9:19-20

"And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine." -- Isaiah 49:26

"And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend." -- Jeremiah 19:9

"Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers." -- Ezekiel 5:10

"I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another." -- Zechariah 11:9

Sometimes the Bible just reports cases of cannibals.

"This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him." 2 Kings 6:28-29

"The hands of the pitiful women have sodden their own children: they were their meat." -- Lamentations 4:10

"Who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron." -- Micah 3:2-3

"Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned. Then set it empty upon the coals thereof, that the brass of it may be hot, and may burn, and that the filthiness of it may be molten in it, that the scum of it may be consumed. She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire. -- Ezekiel 24:10-12

However, I see nothing in my findings to suggest God condemns cannibals in the Bible. In fact in several cases he advocates cannibalism, often as a punishment for various misdeeds. Who are we to question the Will of God?
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