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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-08-2007, 01:30 PM

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But that is where you are quite wrong and your false Christian friends are in error. Please give us an example of anything we have said that is not in any of the Bible's teachings. We have Biblical justification for all of our doctrines.

Enumerate the points that you have in mind and we will demonstrate our Biblical justification for each one.
ONE PROBLEM: They're from the OLD TESTAMENT. Hear that? OLD! OLD! Read more of the NEW TESTAMENT,right?! The GOSPELS!!

Matthew 9:16
No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.


Couldn't this be talking about applying the rules of the OT even when Jesus has come to make everything new?

1 Corinthians 5:7
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1 Corinthians 5:8
Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

AND CHECK THIS OUT


2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Eh? So you've got a "Biblical justification" from the OT?
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-08-2007, 01:38 PM

The law from the Old Testament is still in force. These verses prove that. God never changes!

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not ; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning .

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken ;

Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments .

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2nd Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-08-2007, 01:45 PM

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Talk about thick as a doorpost! George W Bush is spreading the Word, is he not?
Oh yeah, I always forget about Bush... Like the first bush, he doesn't burn very brightly....
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-08-2007, 01:46 PM

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ONE PROBLEM: They're from the OLD TESTAMENT. Hear that? OLD! OLD! Read more of the NEW TESTAMENT,right?! The GOSPELS!!

Matthew 9:16
No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.

Couldn't this be talking about applying the rules of the OT even when Jesus has come to make everything new?

1 Corinthians 5:7
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1 Corinthians 5:8
Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

AND CHECK THIS OUT


2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Eh? So you've got a "Biblical justification" from the OT?
You're reading the Bible? It's nice to see that we're already making some progress in bringing you closer to God. But the idea that we can just cherrypick the verses we like from the New Testament and toss the Old into the trash is wrong, wrong, wrong. The Bible is not a collection of disparate writings by various authors strung together over centuries; it is the complete and perfect words of God Himself. And God is not some crazed Russkie gypsy punk like Nikolai Gogol, who disowns half His work as soon as He finishes writing it; He is the Lord, and He does not change. That is why we follow both the New and the Old Testaments. Besides, I strongly suspect that hippy false "christians" have told you wicked lies about the New Testament - when it comes to misogyny, descriptions of Hell, and promises that Jesus will return with a sword to slice up everyone and anyone who opposes Him, the Old Testament has nothing on the New.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Happy now?


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-08-2007, 02:03 PM

It seems like you are all trying to prove yourself to me. I'm not to judge. I wouldn't want to. But believe it or not. I'm not trying to change what you believe in. Just quoting a couple of verses... that personally, I think speak louder than your quotes combined.

You think I just started reading the bible? Lolz. No, that's just 12 years of me being force fed christianity being revealed.

I'm just as happy as I was before I read your post. I'm so happy in life.

God may not change, but the bible sure can. And has been. Why did god trust men?? Haha.
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-08-2007, 02:07 PM

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It seems like you are all trying to prove yourself to me. I'm not to judge. I wouldn't want to. But believe it or not. I'm not trying to change what you believe in. Just quoting a couple of verses... that personally, I think speak louder than your quotes combined.
Personally, I think I'll take God's opinion over yours, thank you very much.
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I'm just as happy as I was before I read your post. I'm so happy in life.
But why? You believe that you are little more than a hairless ape, drifting through a meaningless life without purpose or direction on a planet that we ourselves are slowly killing, without hope of eternal reward with Jesus. What's so happy about that?
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God may not change, but the bible sure can. And has been. Why did god trust men?? Haha.
Makes a lot more sense than trusting women.


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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-08-2007, 02:19 PM

Oh, I don't want you take my opinions over an imaginary being. Go for it.

What's so happy about my life? I'll not answer that. None of your business.
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-08-2007, 04:21 PM

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What's so happy about my life? I'll not answer that. None of your business.
Translation:
"I have no real answer whatsoever. I only know that I really HATE God.
So please stop asking me any hard questions."


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A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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What's so happy about my life? I'll not answer that. None of your business.
It be quite obvious that this ignant chile is miserable due to her rejection of Christ, otherwise she would not have dodged the question. This ignant heathen chile be just begging for Salvation© from her miserable ways. Otherwise, why she even come to this board in the first place? She had known from the beginning it was a place for True Christian™ folk. Why not just go to a Godless atheist forum where she can bash God and gives the other atheists recipes for cooking Christian babies? I think the answer is that somewhere deep inside she has seen the error of her ways and have recognized that Jesus is LORD! She just too embarrassed to admit it at the moment.
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-10-2007, 07:54 PM

@SS: You wish. You tell me why you're so happy, if you are, then I'll tell you why I'm happy.

@LY: Because this place is hilarious. I couldn't even TRY to get 3 "infractions" in under 24 hours (including my off line time) anywhere else! Nevermind what they're for! Hahaha...
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@SS: You wish. You tell me why you're so happy, if you are, then I'll tell you why I'm happy.

@LY: Because this place is hilarious. I couldn't even TRY to get 3 "infractions" in under 24 hours (including my off line time) anywhere else! Nevermind what they're for! Hahaha...
Why, do you post intelligently, and respectfully of the fact that YOU ARE A GUEST, when you are on other forums?
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-10-2007, 09:17 PM

I don't have to be a guest. I CAN become a member, of any forum, you know? Ask me some decent questions, that are worth my while answering.
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-10-2007, 10:22 PM

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Forum moderators, God, Jesus and archbishop of Cantenbury CAN ban you any time.

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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-10-2007, 11:31 PM

Yeah, I know I can get banned and I'm heading straight for one without even trying.

Why do I try and persecute christians? Err... I'm not trying. Our beliefs just clash. Jesus well prepared you though. As I'm sure every religion tells their believers.

I was raised a christian (and still am, ironically). I don't think it's possible for any child to hold religious beliefs and actually UNDERSTAND them. Just as children can't understand politics, philosophy, the sort. Breaking away from childhood indoctrines is something most people never do.
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-10-2007, 11:42 PM

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Yeah, I know I can get banned and I'm heading straight for one without even trying.

Why do I try and persecute christians? Err... I'm not trying. Our beliefs just clash. Jesus well prepared you though. As I'm sure every religion tells their believers.

I was raised a christian (and still am, ironically). I don't think it's possible for any child to hold religious beliefs and actually UNDERSTAND them. Just as children can't understand politics, philosophy, the sort. Breaking away from childhood indoctrines is something most people never do.
Then you admit that you are too immature and befuddled with drink to comprehend the love of Jesus. Not only God's love, but you admit that you are incapable of wrapping your tiny mind around the secular nonsense that you've been so busy trying to cram down our throats....

So then what are you doing in here but flapping your beer hole and spreading lies and confusion on behalf of satan?

And by the way, you are no Christian. Maybe you pass for one among the God-forsaken potato tribes in your third-world cesspool, but in the eyes of Jesus, you are a demon. Pure and simple.


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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-10-2007, 11:46 PM

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Um, no. You ARE a GUEST.

This website is operated by Landover Baptist Church. The PASTORS decide who stays and who goes. True Christians and even Moderators are still GUESTS, as we are not the ADMINS.

I do have a question to which I'd like an answer:

Hairy Homer refuted my erroneous statement that the majority of people in prison are atheists with statistics proving otherwise. You, on the other hand, accepted it as being true without question. This strongly suggests that you believe that atheists are much more likely to be immoral than Christians.

Please explain why it is that YOU believe that true morality can only come from God. Clearly, you do not believe that it is natural to humans.
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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-11-2007, 12:07 AM

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@SS: You wish. You tell me why you're so happy, if you are, then I'll tell you why I'm happy.
The reasons are many, but all have to do with God. Glory!
I am happy because I worship the true God, I am happy that I have God on my side.
I am happy that I love God, and that He has found the mercy to love me, a lowly human.
I am happy God have granted me wisdom.. I am happy over a great deal of things, really.

Happy is that people, that is in such a case:
Yea, happy is that people, whose God is the LORD.
Psalm 144:15

Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.
Proverbs 3:13

Of course, I am also sad alot. But it does the soul good it does, And God doesn't want us to be happy ALL the time anyways.
Only fools are happy (or rather think they are) all the time.

Now, why are you happy? Are you a complete fool?
With your beliefs, what do you really have to be happy about?
Your beliefs say you're just a worthless piece of living matter that came into existance by mere chance, after all..


If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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Are you willing to accept Jesus right now?
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I was raised a christian (and still am, ironically).
You do know that atheism and Christianity generally aren't considered to go that well together?


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Default Re: "Christian Help Forum"? - 04-11-2007, 04:31 PM

I'd need to be "imature and befuddled with drink" to become a christian. Don't tell me what I accept or don't accept. MY decisions are based on possible future outcome, past experiences, and what I see fit. If I'm still not sure, I ask a close friend or two. I'm happy because I am. I have such great people as friends. I don't really care about how life got here, and i don't care what happens when I die. All that matters to me is what's happening right now and how I can make the most of it. Love life! Stop worrying about everything. I'm happy because I've found peace. Peace with myself, those around me and life in general. It's not your definition of peace, but that doesn't concern me.
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