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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-18-2006, 06:13 AM
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Killing is killing. It's wrong and immoral. Quit trying to justify your actions. You had no idea that that person was even Satanic. You took a life away! Killing isn't saving. You're disgusting.
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Would you say that what the Godly US troops are doing in Iraqistan is 'wrong and immoral'?
Was fighting against Hitler 'wrong and immoral'?
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-19-2006, 11:41 PM
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Would you say that what the Godly US troops are doing in Iraqistan is 'wrong and immoral'?
Was fighting against Hitler 'wrong and immoral'?
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Hitler and Saddam were murdering millions of innocent people. There's a difference between fighting for justice and cold-blooded killing. What you did was wrong.
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-19-2006, 11:44 PM
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When will you get through your skull that THE BIBLE COMMANDS US TO KILL? Why cannot you just accept that we follow our beliefs, as we follow yours, and agree to differ? Why all this hatred and intolerance towards those who don't think like you? Why, friend, why?
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I'm intolerant? You're the ones who are killing people over the way they dress! I don't care what people worship or how they worship as long as they don't hurt or kill anyone.
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-19-2006, 11:49 PM
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Actually, I've had a lot of offers to date men. And I'm not a lesbian. I just don't want a boyfriend or a husband right now.
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Well, that's usually the way the story goes with ugly girls..
You aren't supposed to live celibate because you're ugly, but because Jesus wants you, as a lowly woman, to live celibate.
I thank Jesus, that He made me a man so that I may go into as many women I please (unless they are married/promised of course) until I get married.
If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-20-2006, 12:10 AM
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Hitler and Saddam were murdering millions of innocent people. There's a difference between fighting for justice and cold-blooded killing.
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We are fighting for the only kind of justice that matters: God's justice. And either way, you still contradict yourself. First you say that killing's wrong, then you try and tell us it's justifiable.
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I'm intolerant? You're the ones who are killing people over the way they dress! I don't care what people worship or how they worship as long as they don't hurt or kill anyone.
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More liberal hypocrisy: "I don't care how people worship as long as they don't follow the Bible's commands", in other words.
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-20-2006, 02:12 AM
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Hitler and Saddam were murdering millions of innocent people. There's a difference between fighting for justice and cold-blooded killing. What you did was wrong.
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I see. So we have established that you don't think killing per se is wrong -- there are times when it is justified to kill. Killing those who support the likes of Hitler or Saddam is justified, for example, because that is "fighting for justice"?
See Brother Temperance's post -- while you play God and decide what is just and what isn't, we follow God himself. We can't go wrong.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-20-2006, 10:59 PM
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I see. So we have established that you don't think killing per se is wrong -- there are times when it is justified to kill. Killing those who support the likes of Hitler or Saddam is justified, for example, because that is "fighting for justice"?
See Brother Temperance's post -- while you play God and decide what is just and what isn't, we follow God himself. We can't go wrong.
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Yeah you can. Since the bible was written by man and not god, then you're wrong on so many levels. You're following people who pretended to be god and wrote a book.
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11-20-2006, 11:05 PM
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Yeah you can. Since the bible was written by man and not god, then you're wrong on so many levels. You're following people who pretended to be god and wrote a book.
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The Bible is the Inspired, Inerrant Word of God. The Bible is so obviously more than a mere book. The influence that the Bible has had on history is such that it can only be Inspired of God. The prophesies in the Bible that have come true are another indication that it is much much more than a mere book -- the return of the Jews to Israel, for example.
No, we follow God, you make judgements based on your own perception. You are remarkably arrogant.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-20-2006, 11:14 PM
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The Bible is the Inspired, Inerrant Word of God. The Bible is so obviously more than a mere book. The influence that the Bible has had on history is such that it can only be Inspired of God. The prophesies in the Bible that have come true are another indication that it is much much more than a mere book -- the return of the Jews to Israel, for example.
No, we follow God, you make judgements based on your own perception. You are remarkably arrogant.
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I'm arrogant? You blindly follow a book, paper and cardboard, just because you're afraid of a place that you don't even know exists! It was just driven into your mind for so long that god is real, that you have no choice but to follow mindlessly. And if you don't you'll be killed as a blasphemer! You're being mind-controlled by a world of fear. Some religion...
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-20-2006, 11:49 PM
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I'm arrogant?
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You think that you have the right to decide when it's right to kill and when it isn't. Sounds like a pretty good working definition of arrogance to me.
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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11-21-2006, 12:02 AM
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You think that you have the right to decide when it's right to kill and when it isn't. Sounds like a pretty good working definition of arrogance to me.
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Uhh...you think you can kill people over the way they dress...you're just weird...
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-21-2006, 12:03 AM
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Uhh...you think you can kill people over the way they dress...you're just weird...
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No, GOD tells us who to kill and who not to, and we obey! Who wouldn't?
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-21-2006, 09:45 AM
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Killing is killing. It's wrong and immoral. Quit trying to justify your actions. You had no idea that that person was even Satanic. You took a life away! Killing isn't saving. You're disgusting.
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But you believe that what the Godly US army is doing in Iraqi and Pakistan is quite right and justified -- even if some civilians, women and children, get killed and maimed accidentally.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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11-21-2006, 10:01 AM
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Killing is killing. It's wrong and immoral. Quit trying to justify your actions. You had no idea that that person was even Satanic. You took a life away! Killing isn't saving. You're disgusting.
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GOD has killed every thing and everyone that has ever lived. What, exactly is wrong about it?
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11-21-2006, 11:09 PM
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GOD has killed every thing and everyone that has ever lived. What, exactly is wrong about it?
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God didn't kill that goth, you did. It's god's right to judge, not yours. Maybe god wanted her alive. And you still took her life away. If god really wanted to kill someone, he'd use an uncureable disease or a freak accident, not you.
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11-21-2006, 11:11 PM
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No, GOD tells us who to kill and who not to, and we obey! Who wouldn't?
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God never told you to. The people who wrote the bible did. You're following your own twisted laws.
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11-21-2006, 11:18 PM
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But you believe that what the Godly US army is doing in Iraqi and Pakistan is quite right and justified -- even if some civilians, women and children, get killed and maimed accidentally.
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The US army is trying to prevent women and children from being killed. They're going after the people who kill women and children. If they didn't fight, then the innocent people would be killed, tortured, and crudely experimented on by people like Saddam. They kill when there is no other solution to stopping sadistic dictators like Hitler and Saddam. Then yet again, if the bible didn't tell people like Hitler to blindlessly persecute people such as Jews, gays, and basically anything that didn't fit the conformity or anything that couldn't be controlled, then there wouldn't be a need to stand up for justice because those people wouldn't have been misled by blatant persecutions and discrimination.
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11-21-2006, 11:24 PM
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God never told you to. The people who wrote the bible did. You're following your own twisted laws.
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"The people who wrote the Bible" wrote down exactly what God dictated. The entire story is HERE.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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11-21-2006, 11:34 PM
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The US army is trying to prevent women and children from being killed. They're going after the people who kill women and children. If they didn't fight, then the innocent people would be killed, tortured, and crudely experimented on by people like Saddam. They kill when there is no other solution to stopping sadistic dictators like Hitler and Saddam. Then yet again, if the bible didn't tell people like Hitler to blindlessly persecute people such as Jews, gays, and basically anything that didn't fit the conformity or anything that couldn't be controlled, then there wouldn't be a need to stand up for justice because those people wouldn't have been misled by blatant persecutions and discrimination.
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Why is it that you are so willing and eager to accept the use of violence when it comes to preventing a relatively minor matter like physical harm, but when we use violence to prevent the infinitely more serious matter of harm to one's immortal soul, you get all squeamish? Why the double standard?
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: please prays for Miss.hellion -
11-21-2006, 11:41 PM
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Why is it that you are so willing and eager to accept the use of violence when it comes to preventing a relatively minor matter like physical harm, but when we use violence to prevent the infinitely more serious matter of harm to one's immortal soul, you get all squeamish? Why the double standard?
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Maybe because by following this book, a skewd belief, you're making the world so much worse with all your persecution and bigotry. Especially with the wars and riots. Do you really think god wanted all this? Don't you think he/she would've seen all this coming and tried to prevent it? You're creating your own Hell on earth.
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