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Hillary Clinton to Become Preacher? -
08-15-2017, 03:49 PM
Could it really be - after a lifetime of scandals and corruption, promoting baby killing, an advocate of sodomy and rampant sin? Is this Hillary's last chance to avoid an eternity in the Lake of Fire? Will Hillary finally throw her support behind Donald Trump to MAGA?
Nah.
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Hillary Wants to Preach
Religion is playing a big role in Clinton’s post-election tour. What does she have to gain from sharing her faith now?
Hillary Clinton wants to preach. That’s what she told Bill Shillady, her longtime pastor, at a recent photo shoot for his new book about the daily devotionals he sent her during the 2016 campaign. Scattered bits of reporting suggest that ministry has always been a secret dream of the two-time presidential candidate: Last fall, the former Newsweek editor Kenneth Woodward revealed that Clinton told him in 1994 that she thought “all the time” about becoming an ordained Methodist minister. She asked him not to write about it, though: “It will make me seem much too pious.” The incident perfectly captures Clinton’s long campaign to modulate—and sometimes obscure—expressions of her faith.
Now, as Clinton works to rehabilitate her public image and figure out the next steps after her brutal November loss, religion is taking a central role. After long months of struggling to persuade Americans that she is trustworthy, authentic, and fundamentally moral, Clinton is lifting up an intimate, closely guarded part of herself. There are no more voters left to lose. In sharing her faith, perhaps Clinton sees something left to win, whether political or personal.
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The book offers a rare window into the way Scripture appears to have shaped Clinton on the campaign trail—as it has throughout her life. Hillary Rodham grew up attending First United Methodist Church in the conservative suburb of Park Ridge, Illinois, often taking field trips into Chicago with her youth pastor to see figures like Martin Luther King Jr. While other girls were flipping through beauty mags, she was reading about Vietnam and poverty in a now-defunct magazine for Methodist students called motive.
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Clinton brought her faith with her as she entered political life, in times both good and bad. During the Clinton administration, the family attended Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington, D.C. Mike McCurry, who served as Bill Clinton’s press secretary during the early Monica Lewinsky years and now teaches at Wesley Theological Seminary, told me “her faith and her ability to think about forgiveness … was a very, very important part of how she dealt with that family crisis.” A well-worn Bible was always on the Clinton family’s dining room table during that time, he said.
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Yet early in her career, Clinton learned the dangers of speaking publicly about her religious beliefs. When she was First Lady, progressives roundly mocked her moralism, and conservatives doubted her sincerity. After getting widely panned for a speech about America’s “crisis of meaning” in 1993, Clinton waited nearly a year to talk about spirituality again—and did so, she said, “with some trepidation.”
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Shillady said Clinton could have talked about her faith more during the campaign, but largely blamed commentators for ignoring that aspect of her identity. “It’s been there all along,” he said. “The general public didn’t necessarily want to accept the fact that she’s a Christian because there’s so many critics out there about the Clintons.” Kristin Du Mez, a professor at Calvin College who is working on a book about Clinton’s faith, agreed. “When I would hear Hillary speak, knowing that she was a Methodist, I just heard so many resonances—about education, about women’s rights, about the importance of community,” she said. “Because of that, it was just baffling to me that so many other Americans not only didn’t know she was Methodist, but didn’t accept that she was Christian.”
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ionals/535941/
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Re: Hillary Clinton to Become Preacher? -
08-15-2017, 04:44 PM
I'm not a theologian, but I see the work of Satan here. Satan said to himself, "Why not mask my message in the guise of a 'preacher'? It has worked with the Catholics and Mormons."
The Clinton gambit, however, is more evil. She will be preaching homerism and liberalism. We need to use our powers here at Landover Baptist to shout her down.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: Hillary Clinton to Become Preacher? -
08-15-2017, 05:53 PM
Shout her down with direct verses from the Bible to demonstrate why she shouldn't be preaching does sound good. But if Our President was permitted to do his job, she would have been locked up months ago.
And as it happens, being locked up in a women's prison would give her the opportunity to preach. The Bible doesn't specfically forbid women from preaching and instructing children and other women about Jesus and The Good News.
The real problem, of course, is that she would be preaching a granola-eating, patchouli-scented "Jesus". I'm sure that if the Real Jesus© wore any fragrance, it was frankencense. It was given to Him as a baby-gift after all.
Hmmm. . . I wonder what He was given for his Bar Mitzvah?
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Re: Hillary Clinton to Become Preacher? -
08-16-2017, 05:21 PM
Call me overly skeptical, but I have no faith that someone of the moral depravity of Hillary Clinton would ever repent. Jeffrey Dahmer? Sure. Though not Hillary.
Anyway, if she starts supporting good Christian policies like banning Muslims, building a wall, banning abortions, deporting criminals, etc. I'll CONSIDER reevaluating my opinion on her. Until then, just another wolf in sheep's clothing.
Close minded people are just right people who don't want to spend time arguing.
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Re: Hillary Clinton to Become Preacher? -
08-16-2017, 08:08 PM
I think the telling quote is;
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Now, as Clinton works to rehabilitate her public image and figure out the next steps after her brutal November loss, religion is taking a central role.
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As a pastor, I all too often see a sudden and miraculous conversion to an attitude that mimics True Christianity.
It is a particularly human failing in the weak or mind, weak of spirit, and women.
Everyone of these "I'm in shit - Get Jesus on the hot-line" is roundly condemned by God the Father, Jesus and most all the Biblical characters that I can think of:
Proverb:1:24: Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
Proverb:1:25: But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
Proverb:1:26: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Proverb:1:27: When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Proverb:1:28: Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
Proverb:1:29: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
2Pe:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The point is that you should be paying the insurance and then you can make a claim! How simple is that? You can't have a pre-exisiting condition and then sign up for insurance!
Here it is again:
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While other girls were flipping through beauty mags,...
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A clear reference to her being as ugly as a badger's ass. A woman so created by The Lord, should accept the hint and give up the idea of finding a husband. In what she saw as trouble, she cynically turns to Jesus to distract herself from The Lord's true calling for her - an example to others.
Here it is again:
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“her faith and her ability to think about forgiveness … was a very, very important part of how she dealt with that family crisis.”
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Hillary went against God and stuck her claws into a man. And then she denies him the services of a a wife:
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'Hillary Clinton only had a child to look normal', Bill Clinton's alleged ex-lover claims:
BILL Clinton’s alleged former mistress has claimed the ex-President told her that he and Hillary had a child to suppress rumours that Hillary is a lesbian. [...] Dolly Kyle, who claims she had an affair with the former US President for three decades, said Bill told her in 1979 that he wanted to have a child with Hillary to quieten media rumours about his wife's sexuality.
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Yet we saw she had the temerity to use a thin veneer of "religion" to achieve her aims.
(Despite his disastrous presidency, my heart goes out to Bill.)
Let's move on with more proof:
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“The general public didn’t necessarily want to accept the fact that she’s a Christian because there’s so many critics out there about the Clintons.” Kristin Du Mez, a professor at Calvin College
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Hey! Prof! (If you really are a professor! ) The General Public know what they are talking about! They see through her like glass. She's so self-obsessed she's no idea what "the public think" The public aren't Methodists, don't have the dirt on an ex-president, and aren't lesbian!
And now she says she wants to preach!
Ti:1:6: If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
Ti:1:7: For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
Ti:1:8: But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
Ti:1:9: Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Anyway - the point is that "Methodist" is not a religion - it is a social group who meets at intervals to discuss some fluffy bunny form of Christianity that the New York Times would approve of.
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Re: Hillary Clinton to Become Preacher? -
08-19-2017, 09:23 PM
The real question here is, can being a Methodist serve as a gateway to becoming an actual Christian?
I don't think so.
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Re: Hillary Clinton to Become Preacher? -
08-20-2017, 12:26 AM
Well, I am no Pastor or theologian. Just a True Believer™. But every person I know that claims to be Godly AFTER suffering some sort of defeat (like a criminal conviction) all claim to of 'found Jesus'. Which is simply not possible. Jesus has been there all along. They just ignored him. So while He may forgive your sins, they are on your permanent record and affect your chances of getting into Heaven. Until then, no parishioner would ever follow a Pastor who is a crook (and of course, a woman, a Pastor).
I have not laughed so hard since old lady Johnson slipped on the ice, broke her hip and her dog got run over by the Landover Sanitation Dept. twice. They backed up to see if they missed something.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Hillary Clinton to Become Preacher? -
08-23-2017, 03:16 AM
Well, for her soul I prayed this evening that she would repent and become a champion for President Trump and godly values. I even mailed her a KJV 1611 Bible to help!
"Every wise woman buildeth her house: but the foolish plucketh it down with her hands." Proverbs 14:1
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