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Exclamation Roman Catholicism - 12-02-2007, 05:43 PM

Why Catholicism is Wrong

The Bread and Wine does not become Christ's Body and Blood

1 Corinthians 11:24
"And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me." KJV


Jesus said "this is my body", but he was not meaning the bread was literally His body. How do we know this? Because He called it bread three times after that.

1 Corinthians 11:26-28
26 "For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup." KJV


Jesus called the wine "fruit of the vine". Catholics say it is Christ's blood, but Jesus told His disciples it was for remembrance of Him, not to offer His body again and again.

1 Corinthians 11:24-25
24 "And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me." KJV


Christ cannot be sacrificed again. This Catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible.


Hebrews 10:10-18
10 "By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin." KJV


The Bible teaches only to pray to God, not Saints.

1 Timothy 2:5
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" KJV


There is not one verse in the Bible that teaches us to pray to Saints.

Why not to pray to Mary

Jesus is the only mediator between God and men, not Mary.

1 Timothy 2:5
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" KJV


If Mary was sinless why did she offer a sacrifice for her purification?

Luke 2:22
"And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;" KJV


...and why did she call God "my Saviour"?

Luke 1:47
"And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour." KJV


Mary was a virgin at Christ's birth, but notice in the below verse it says "her firstborn son".

Matthew 1:25
"And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS." KJV


Mary had other children.

Matthew 13:55-56
55 "Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?" KJV


Also, look at Matthew 12:46, Mark 3:31; 6:3, Luke 8:19, John 2:12.

These were not His spiritual brothers because they did not believe in Him until the resurrection.

John 7:5
"For neither did his brethren believe in him." KJV


The Bible makes clear between Jesus' physical and spiritual brothers.

John 2:12
"After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days." KJV


Purgatory?

Once again, there is not one single verse that teaches about a place called purgatory. When a person dies, they either go to Heaven or Hell. They are either cleansed by the Blood or on their way to an Eternal Hell. After someone gets saved all of their sins are forgiven, therefore why would there be a purgatory?

Hebrews 10:17
"And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more." KJV


There are many other things that I could mention, but maybe this enough to show that Catholicism is against God's Word. If you're Catholic and you're reading this, please take the time to talk to someone on the forums. We do not hate you. We love you and we want to see you get saved. Focus all your attention on Jesus alone, not idols, not Saints and not Mary.

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Romans 10:9
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." KJV
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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-02-2007, 05:50 PM

Well written and compiled, brother.
We've been saying these things (and a few others) in various threads throughout the forum, but it's v. nice to have them all gathered together in one thread.
Good job.


Another important thing is the blasphemous way the cathylicks adress their false teachers (commonly called 'priests')
That they actually have the nerve to call them 'father', in direct opposition of Matthew 23:9..
Really, how much more clear can it get than this:

And call no man your father upon the earth:
For one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Matthew 23:9


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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-02-2007, 07:54 PM

You will make a fine addition to these boards. I'd like to add the following verses that contradict the Catholic notion of transubstantiation because they prove that Jesus would never want us actually to drink blood:

Acts 15:20: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and [from] fornication, and [from] things strangled, and [from] blood.

Acts 15:29: That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Acts 21:25: As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written [and] concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from [things] offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.


You may have noticed that there are Catholic priests who come to this board to mock us. Simply rebuke them with Scripture, and you will find that they cannot answer you.


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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-03-2007, 03:08 AM

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Well written and compiled, brother.
We've been saying these things (and a few others) in various threads throughout the forum, but it's v. nice to have them all gathered together in one thread.
Good job.


Another important thing is the blasphemous way the cathylicks adress their false teachers (commonly called 'priests')
That they actually have the nerve to call them 'father', in direct opposition of Matthew 23:9..
Really, how much more clear can it get than this:

And call no man your father upon the earth:
For one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Matthew 23:9
OK...What is your word for "male parent"?


ACTS 5:29

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But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?
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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-03-2007, 03:18 AM

Praise Jesus! This is awesome.

Your entire false religion has just been completely exposed as a fraud, and the best response you have is:
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OK...What is your word for "male parent"?
You completely skipped over all of the rest of the points, because you know Catholicism is bogus.

Why don't you take off your Satan collar, stop praying to Mary, and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior? Repent from your sins. Throw away your fake Bible and pick up a KJV. Next week at mass, ask your congregation to forgive you for leading them astray, and start preaching them the TRUE gospel. Preach the TRUE Word of God until the Satanists at the Vatican find out about it and defrock you, then start preaching at a God fearing Bible-Believing Baptist church.

Hallelujah! The LORD is GOOD!

Anyway, to answer your question, I call mine "Dad".

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OK...What is your word for "male parent"?
You've been saying this before (and keep saying it like a godless mantra) so I'll ask you the same question I've done all 100+ times you've said that..
ARE YOU THE LITERAL MALE PARENT OF YOUR ENTIRE CONGREGATION? YES OR NO?

Since you are not, why do you run around and call yourself so - even though Jesus forbids it?
Or do you think Jesus was only talking about our male parent? And that it's okay as a title if not related?
What are you trying to say? That since some people adress their male parent that way (for obvious reasons) it's okay for you to use it as a title?

Seriously, what do you think He was saying there in that verse?
Stop being such a blind tool of satan, papist.


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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-06-2007, 09:40 PM

Please refrain from name calling of sorts, and give me an educated response without the ridicule. If you can't do so, then that's fine. It's generally a bad way to discuss diferent views by calling the person who is stating an opposing idea a "liar" who is "condemned to hell", whether it be true or not.

"If Mary was sinless why did she offer a sacrifice for her purification?

Luke 2:22
"And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;" KJV
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If Mary was a Jew, wouldn't she be required as a faithful jewish woman to follow the law of Moses? Jesus had not died for the sins of the world at this point in time, so could she still have been a Christian at that moment in time?

Jesus was sinless, and yet he was still baptized by John. What is the meaning of that? Again, please refrain from the name calling and hinted insults.
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Please refrain from name calling of sorts, and give me an educated response without the ridicule. ?.....
Again, please refrain from the name calling and hinted insults.
What makes you so special?


The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine."
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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-06-2007, 10:06 PM

I read the Bible and I don't understand what it's telling me. I was hoping someone on here could answer my questions for me. I have yet to see anything against slavery in the Bible, does it make it right? No. If there is something against it, I would like to see it. What makes me so special? Nothing. I just want a straight answer.
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Please refrain from name calling of sorts, and give me an educated response without the ridicule. If you can't do so, then that's fine. It's generally a bad way to discuss diferent views by calling the person who is stating an opposing idea a "liar" who is "condemned to hell", whether it be true or not.

"If Mary was sinless why did she offer a sacrifice for her purification?

Luke 2:22
"And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;" KJV
"

If Mary was a Jew, wouldn't she be required as a faithful jewish woman to follow the law of Moses? Jesus had not died for the sins of the world at this point in time, so could she still have been a Christian at that moment in time?

Jesus was sinless, and yet he was still baptized by John. What is the meaning of that? Again, please refrain from the name calling and hinted insults.
Mary wasn't sinless, we've never said she was, it's cathylicks who claim she's sinless.

Mary did fulfill the law, which is what she was required to do.

Jesus was sinless, the baptism was also his anointing. (Like David/Saul...) Jesus baptism was done so others would know that it was the right thing to do.

Hope this helps.

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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-06-2007, 10:20 PM

So baptism is an anointing to be a king?
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So baptism is an anointing to be a king?
Jesus baptism was quite special.

Other than Jesus, I don't recall anyone else having the Holy Spirit descend as a dove, and the voice of the Father proclaiming "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-07-2007, 06:17 AM

Thank you for clearing this up for me!
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OK...What is your word for "male parent"?
I have explained that to you before, by quoting the relevant scripture in context in this thread.

You never answered, because God's word makes you uncomfortable.


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1st Corinthians 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
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Default Re: Roman Catholicism - 12-16-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Prune Danish View Post
I have explained that to you before, by quoting the relevant scripture in context in this thread.

You never answered, because God's word makes you uncomfortable.
How remarkable! He never answered in this thread either. I wonder why.


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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