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Default A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 10:28 PM

Dear friends!

I was given a link to this website by a fellow believer, and thought I'd take a look.

Firstly, I'd like to congratulate you on your large community. It's really nice to see a large group of believers getting together and encouraging one another. Furthermore, I see you have some very interesting Bible studies. As a fellow lover of the Bible, I must say I'm impressed, as far too often these days, I see church communities where the Bible is an extra addition, and only brought out when everything else fails. It's fundamental that we remember the word of our Almighty Father and His Son, through the Holy Ghost.

It's also good to see that you appear to have such passion and love for fellow believers, again something that is vital, for as in Mark 3:24:
And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
And also in John 13:35:
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Undoubtedly, you've read in the scriptures that love is of such huge importance. We read:
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
In 1 John 4:16.

Now please, brothers and sisters, understand this. If we claim to follow Christ Crucified, we must be in love. For us to dwell in God, and for God to dwell in us, we must first dwell in love.

Now, what does it mean to dwell in love? Jesus Christ himself in Matthew 5:44:
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

I have heard that you have much hatred within this particular forum for certain groups of people, such as Muslims, Athiests, and other Non-Christian groups. Now, while these groups are, by this verse in Matthew, considered our "enemies", and moreover, very often they make themselves our enemies, that we are not to show hatred to them. We are not to hate them back. We are to love them. To pray for them lovingly, and to bless them.

Let's skip on a few verses to verse 47:
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

How can you possibly justify hatred? We should love those people who hate us. We should remember that the group who persecutes Christians the fifth most is OTHER CHRISTIANS. Other people, who claim to be followers of Christ, but are clearly without love. 1 Corinthians 13:1:
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

If we, as followers of Christ are without love, we are simply making a lot of noise. Unnecessary noise. If a person has true love, they are not loving to some people, and yet hate others. That would mean they are inconsistent with their own teaching.

No doubt you'll pick me up on this, but if we replace the words for enemies in Matthew 5:44, we basically get the following:
But I say unto you, Love the athiests, bless the Muslims, do good to the unsaved, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

Do you not see? You may claim to love the Bible, you may claim to love Jesus, but if you do not love even the least of humankind, Jesus doesn't even know you. Jesus says that even calling somebody a fool is deserving of the fires of hell, and that unless we change our ways, we are not saved.

I am not the one to pass judgement on you. Jesus is the one who'll do that, but if you're not loving everybody, even those you label "scum", you're in danger. (I've seen it, some of you label anybody who isn't labelled a Christian, as scum. Did not even Jesus eat with prostitutes. He spent time with the labelled scum of that day. Could you do that?)

Let's talk prostitutes for a second. You know most of them are born into it? They're not given the chance for anything else. We're supposed to rescue them from that, not condemn them to hell.

Are you not familiar with Jesus' teaching on "whoever is without sin throw the first stone"? Don't judge lest ye be judged. Sound familiar? It's there in that book that we've been given from God.

Do you know Jesus Christ? I do, and I know a large group of truly loving believers, who will do anything to help people. They genuinely love people. They wouldn't see a man dying in a street, and first have to find out if he is a Christian or not, before they decide whether they should help him. Would you honestly leave a Muslim bleeding to death? I know I could not, and neither could Jesus.

You might claim I don't know the "true" Jesus. I don't know "YOUR" Jesus (Cos apparently you're YOUR Jesus' favourite church... when'd he tell you that? As I see it, his favourite church is his bride, the united church of the entire world of true believers... but anyway...), but by the looks of things, "your" Jesus has no true power. The Jesus I know works miracles in the lives of those around me. I see healings and absolutely radical miracles weekly. Now, before you label me a "witch", I'd liek to point out I believe in witchcraft, and I believe it is serious and damaging, however you have nothing to fear in me, I am in no way a witch.

Now, I'd like to conclude as I started. Unfortunately, I cannot. You probably cannot understand how I love you. I say these things out of love for you, and our of love for Almighty God. I shall be praying for you.

God Bless you all.

Lots of love,

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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 10:55 PM

thank you!

this is exactly what the church across the globe of today needs. A dose of love!
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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 10:55 PM

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Dear friends!

I was given a link to this website by a fellow believer, and thought I'd take a look.

Firstly, I'd like to congratulate you on your large community. It's really nice to see a large group of believers getting together and encouraging one another. Furthermore, I see you have some very interesting Bible studies. As a fellow lover of the Bible, I must say I'm impressed, as far too often these days, I see church communities where the Bible is an extra addition, and only brought out when everything else fails. It's fundamental that we remember the word of our Almighty Father and His Son, through the Holy Ghost.

It's also good to see that you appear to have such passion and love for fellow believers, again something that is vital, for as in Mark 3:24:
And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
And also in John 13:35:
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Undoubtedly, you've read in the scriptures that love is of such huge importance. We read:
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
In 1 John 4:16.

Now please, brothers and sisters, understand this. If we claim to follow Christ Crucified, we must be in love. For us to dwell in God, and for God to dwell in us, we must first dwell in love.

Now, what does it mean to dwell in love? Jesus Christ himself in Matthew 5:44:
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

I have heard that you have much hatred within this particular forum for certain groups of people, such as Muslims, Athiests, and other Non-Christian groups. Now, while these groups are, by this verse in Matthew, considered our "enemies", and moreover, very often they make themselves our enemies, that we are not to show hatred to them. We are not to hate them back. We are to love them. To pray for them lovingly, and to bless them.

Let's skip on a few verses to verse 47:
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

How can you possibly justify hatred? We should love those people who hate us. We should remember that the group who persecutes Christians the fifth most is OTHER CHRISTIANS. Other people, who claim to be followers of Christ, but are clearly without love. 1 Corinthians 13:1:
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

If we, as followers of Christ are without love, we are simply making a lot of noise. Unnecessary noise. If a person has true love, they are not loving to some people, and yet hate others. That would mean they are inconsistent with their own teaching.

No doubt you'll pick me up on this, but if we replace the words for enemies in Matthew 5:44, we basically get the following:
But I say unto you, Love the athiests, bless the Muslims, do good to the unsaved, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

Do you not see? You may claim to love the Bible, you may claim to love Jesus, but if you do not love even the least of humankind, Jesus doesn't even know you. Jesus says that even calling somebody a fool is deserving of the fires of hell, and that unless we change our ways, we are not saved.

I am not the one to pass judgement on you. Jesus is the one who'll do that, but if you're not loving everybody, even those you label "scum", you're in danger. (I've seen it, some of you label anybody who isn't labelled a Christian, as scum. Did not even Jesus eat with prostitutes. He spent time with the labelled scum of that day. Could you do that?)

Let's talk prostitutes for a second. You know most of them are born into it? They're not given the chance for anything else. We're supposed to rescue them from that, not condemn them to hell.

Are you not familiar with Jesus' teaching on "whoever is without sin throw the first stone"? Don't judge lest ye be judged. Sound familiar? It's there in that book that we've been given from God.

Do you know Jesus Christ? I do, and I know a large group of truly loving believers, who will do anything to help people. They genuinely love people. They wouldn't see a man dying in a street, and first have to find out if he is a Christian or not, before they decide whether they should help him. Would you honestly leave a Muslim bleeding to death? I know I could not, and neither could Jesus.

You might claim I don't know the "true" Jesus. I don't know "YOUR" Jesus (Cos apparently you're YOUR Jesus' favourite church... when'd he tell you that? As I see it, his favourite church is his bride, the united church of the entire world of true believers... but anyway...), but by the looks of things, "your" Jesus has no true power. The Jesus I know works miracles in the lives of those around me. I see healings and absolutely radical miracles weekly. Now, before you label me a "witch", I'd liek to point out I believe in witchcraft, and I believe it is serious and damaging, however you have nothing to fear in me, I am in no way a witch.

Now, I'd like to conclude as I started. Unfortunately, I cannot. You probably cannot understand how I love you. I say these things out of love for you, and our of love for Almighty God. I shall be praying for you.

God Bless you all.

Lots of love,

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10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 11:03 PM

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Firstly, I'd like to congratulate you on your large community. It's really nice to see a large group of believers getting together and encouraging one another. Furthermore, I see you have some very interesting Bible studies. As a fellow lover of the Bible, I must say I'm impressed, as far too often these days, I see church communities where the Bible is an extra addition, and only brought out when everything else fails. It's fundamental that we remember the word of our Almighty Father and His Son, through the Holy Ghost.
Thank you and welcome, my oddly-named friend.
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It's also good to see that you appear to have such passion and love for fellow believers, again something that is vital, for as in Mark 3:24:
And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
And also in John 13:35:
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Undoubtedly, you've read in the scriptures that love is of such huge importance. We read:
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
In 1 John 4:16.

Now please, brothers and sisters, understand this. If we claim to follow Christ Crucified, we must be in love. For us to dwell in God, and for God to dwell in us, we must first dwell in love.

Now, what does it mean to dwell in love? Jesus Christ himself in Matthew 5:44:
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

I have heard that you have much hatred within this particular forum for certain groups of people, such as Muslims, Athiests, and other Non-Christian groups. Now, while these groups are, by this verse in Matthew, considered our "enemies", and moreover, very often they make themselves our enemies, that we are not to show hatred to them. We are not to hate them back. We are to love them. To pray for them lovingly, and to bless them.

Let's skip on a few verses to verse 47:
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

How can you possibly justify hatred? We should love those people who hate us.
The Lord also commands us to hate. Lots of times.
2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Psalm 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

And it's not just the Old Testament that commands us to hate:

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
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We should remember that the group who persecutes Christians the fifth most is OTHER CHRISTIANS. Other people, who claim to be followers of Christ, but are clearly without love.

No True Christian would persecute another Christian. Anyone who would do that is clearly a false "Christian", so we're justified in hating and brutally destroying them.
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If we, as followers of Christ are without love, we are simply making a lot of noise. Unnecessary noise. If a person has true love, they are not loving to some people, and yet hate others. That would mean they are inconsistent with their own teaching.
Um, no it doesn't. That's not true. Again,
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
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No doubt you'll pick me up on this, but if we replace the words for enemies in Matthew 5:44, we basically get the following:
But I say unto you, Love the athiests, bless the Muslims, do good to the unsaved, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
Yes, and if we were so blasphemous and disrespectful as to replace some of the words in Matthew 3:16 (God forgive me for this act), we get the following:
And Jesus, when he was gelatinous, went up straightway out of the milk: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of Marcel Proust descending like a flying bear that breathes fire, and lighting upon him.
See, anyone can distort God's word to produce nonsense. It doesn't make it a good idea.
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Do you not see? You may claim to love the Bible, you may claim to love Jesus, but if you do not love even the least of humankind, Jesus doesn't even know you.
Jesus knows everyone, blasphemer.
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Jesus says that even calling somebody a fool is deserving of the fires of hell, and that unless we change our ways, we are not saved.
Psalms talks about fools a lot. Do you think the author of Psalms is burning in Hell?
Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

We call people fools out of Christian Love, to save them from Hell.

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I am not the one to pass judgement on you. Jesus is the one who'll do that, but if you're not loving everybody, even those you label "scum", you're in danger. (I've seen it, some of you label anybody who isn't labelled a Christian, as scum. Did not even Jesus eat with prostitutes. He spent time with the labelled scum of that day. Could you do that?)
Jesus walked on water and turned it into wine. I couldn't do that either.

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Let's talk prostitutes for a second. You know most of them are born into it?
No, I don't know that, because it's not true. Would you care to provide scriptural proof for your lying assertion which is not true?
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Are you not familiar with Jesus' teaching on "whoever is without sin throw the first stone"? Don't judge lest ye be judged. Sound familiar? It's there in that book that we've been given from God.
Are you familiar with Jesus' teaching on "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God" (1 John 3:9) and "we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" (1 Corinthians 6:3)?
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Do you know Jesus Christ? I do, and I know a large group of truly loving believers, who will do anything to help people. They genuinely love people. They wouldn't see a man dying in a street, and first have to find out if he is a Christian or not, before they decide whether they should help him. Would you honestly leave a Muslim bleeding to death? I know I could not, and neither could Jesus.
No, I'd preach to him to get him to accept Jesus into his heart. If he refused to listen to reason, I'd slap him around a bit for his own good. If that didn't help, I'd take his wallet to donate to God's work and kick him again for being stubborn.
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You might claim I don't know the "true" Jesus. I don't know "YOUR" Jesus (Cos apparently you're YOUR Jesus' favourite church... when'd he tell you that? As I see it, his favourite church is his bride, the united church of the entire world of true believers... but anyway...)
Yes, the entire world of true believers. There may be a few outside Landover, but we have yet to find them.
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but by the looks of things, "your" Jesus has no true power. The Jesus I know works miracles in the lives of those around me. I see healings and absolutely radical miracles weekly. Now, before you label me a "witch", I'd liek to point out I believe in witchcraft, and I believe it is serious and damaging, however you have nothing to fear in me, I am in no way a witch.

Now, I'd like to conclude as I started. Unfortunately, I cannot. You probably cannot understand how I love you. I say these things out of love for you, and our of love for Almighty God. I shall be praying for you.

God Bless you all.

Lots of love,

toxic-inferno
I love you too, friend (not in a gay way though), and will be praying that you repent of your blasphemies and actually read the Bible and become a proper Christian.

Yours in Christ,
Temperance


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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 11:07 PM

[QUOTE=toxic-inferno;428325][fluffy-bunny lieberal, Joo York Times editorial rubbish deleted]

[bangs on about loving your enemy for a while]
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Did not even Jesus eat with prostitutes. He spent time with the labelled scum of that day. Could you do that?
I'd advise any Pastor or True Christian to ignore this obvious trap.
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I don't know "YOUR" Jesus
This woman's an atheist.
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(Cos apparently you're YOUR Jesus' favourite church... when'd he tell you that?
1620, see the banner at the top.
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As I see it, his favourite church is his bride,
I've always felt a little queasy with that anaolgy - the church was started after the resurrection by the male Disciples - there's something male about a church.

The above is proof, were it needed that women should not preach.

First, we are indifferent to our enemies, but implacably opposed to God's enemies, who are to be killed as soon as biblical law prevails.

As far as unsaved trash, heretics, atheists and catlix are concerned, Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Matthew 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Lu:19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Lu:19:28: And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

God gives you a chance, we try and tell you, once. After that, if you fail to comply, you are an enemy of God.





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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 11:14 PM

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You are not the second coming of Christ. I also seriously doubt you've ever read the entire Bible. Kiss and hug your hippy friends and go nedding around town, but do not insult us.
Not to sound like I'm boasting, but I've read the Bible three times through this year. I love it, and can't get enough of it. I try to spend 1/12th of my life reading the Bible, that's two hours a day. I certainly have read the entire Bible. If that comes as a shock to you, you clearly aren't ready yours enough, as everything I've said comes from it. I know the implications, but the message of the Bible is one of love. Gospel means Good News, or "Love"ly News. It's a message of love.
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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 11:19 PM

It is the Bible itself that compares the Church to a bride! So if you want to disagree with that, it is Gods word you are denying, not toxic-infernos. And you recommend that "true christians" ignore a part of the life of Jesus Christ? Our Lord and Savior? Really?!
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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 11:25 PM

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Thank you and welcome, my oddly-named friend.

The Lord also commands us to hate. Lots of times.
2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Psalm 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

And it's not just the Old Testament that commands us to hate:

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

No True Christian would persecute another Christian. Anyone who would do that is clearly a false "Christian", so we're justified in hating and brutally destroying them.

Um, no it doesn't. That's not true. Again,
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Yes, and if we were so blasphemous and disrespectful as to replace some of the words in Matthew 3:16 (God forgive me for this act), we get the following:
And Jesus, when he was gelatinous, went up straightway out of the milk: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of Marcel Proust descending like a flying bear that breathes fire, and lighting upon him.
See, anyone can distort God's word to produce nonsense. It doesn't make it a good idea.

Jesus knows everyone, blasphemer.

Psalms talks about fools a lot. Do you think the author of Psalms is burning in Hell?
Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

We call people fools out of Christian Love, to save them from Hell.


Jesus walked on water and turned it into wine. I couldn't do that either.


No, I don't know that, because it's not true. Would you care to provide scriptural proof for your lying assertion which is not true?

Are you familiar with Jesus' teaching on "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God" (1 John 3:9) and "we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" (1 Corinthians 6:3)?

No, I'd preach to him to get him to accept Jesus into his heart. If he refused to listen to reason, I'd slap him around a bit for his own good. If that didn't help, I'd take his wallet to donate to God's work and kick him again for being stubborn.

Yes, the entire world of true believers. There may be a few outside Landover, but we have yet to find them.

I love you too, friend (not in a gay way though), and will be praying that you repent of your blasphemies and actually read the Bible and become a proper Christian.

Yours in Christ,
Temperance
I try not to rebuke people twice. The Bible says that if people don't listen the first time, they won't listen any other time, but I'd like to set this straight.

I agree with your point about no true follower killing another Christian. That was the point I was making.

As for replacing words. The words I was replacing with were eexamples of persecutors and the likes. It wasn't replacing original scripture, as it was simply an explanation.

As for the Jesus knowing everyone, read the parable of the ten virgins.

The obvious exception to calling people a fool is when it's Biblical and "by God". As we are now in the year of the Lord, the new law (Jesus') is what we obey, which says do not call anyone a fool.

If you have Jesus' reigning in you, you can walk on water, and eat with prostitutes. And to do that, you must be full of love.

As for the prostitutes being born into it thing, if you deny anything that hasn't got scripture proof, does that mean you deny the existence of America? HMMMMMMM... that's odd, thought you said you couldn't walk on water? Then where are you now if America has ceased to exist?

If you would steal off someone in order to fund your own church (now I daren't ask where that money goes... I'd hope it goes to needy people). This completely rejects so much of God's law.

Your comments suggest you are ignorant of anything outside your cosey comfort zone. I do love you, and as stated above, I have read the Bible, and LOVE IT!!!!
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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 11:29 PM

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[fluffy-bunny lieberal, Joo York Times editorial rubbish deleted]

[bangs on about loving your enemy for a while]
I'd advise any Pastor or True Christian to ignore this obvious trap.This woman's an atheist. 1620, see the banner at the top. I've always felt a little queasy with that anaolgy - the church was started after the resurrection by the male Disciples - there's something male about a church.

The above is proof, were it needed that women should not preach.

First, we are indifferent to our enemies, but implacably opposed to God's enemies, who are to be killed as soon as biblical law prevails.

[COLOR=black]As far as unsaved trash, heretics, atheists and catlix are concerned, Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Matthew 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Lu:19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Lu:19:28: And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

God gives you a chance, we try and tell you, once. After that, if you fail to comply, you are an enemy of God.
I agree eating with prostitutes could be a trap, and could be dangerous. Very dangerous. But with the love of God, it can see many prostitutes saved.

I am not a woman. if that's what you're saying. I am not an athiest.

This is a tiresome game. I am simply giving you a warning. God's love has prevailed. The Biblical Law is not some pie in the sky future event. It's now, it's real, and it's active in my life.

Please read Matthew 5-7 for how to live as a follower and believer.

*shakes dust of feet*
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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-06-2009, 11:59 PM

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I agree with your point about no true follower killing another Christian. That was the point I was making.
So you agree it's appropriate to brutally destroy Quakers, Anglicans, and similar blasphemous scum? Praise Jesus, there's hope for you yet.
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The obvious exception to calling people a fool is when it's Biblical and "by God". As we are now in the year of the Lord, the new law (Jesus') is what we obey, which says do not call anyone a fool.
Chapter and verse, sinner.
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If you have Jesus' reigning in you, you can walk on water, and eat with prostitutes. And to do that, you must be full of love.
Can you walk on water? I'd advise trying that before you eat a prostitute, or whatever you atheist types get up to.
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As for the prostitutes being born into it thing, if you deny anything that hasn't got scripture proof, does that mean you deny the existence of America? HMMMMMMM... that's odd, thought you said you couldn't walk on water? Then where are you now if America has ceased to exist?
Britain, you mongoloid. I bet you can't even give secular proof for that claim you made about the harlotry lifestyle choice.
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If you would steal off someone in order to fund your own church (now I daren't ask where that money goes... I'd hope it goes to needy people). This completely rejects so much of God's law.
Where in God's law does it say that dead Muslims can own property? And don't worry, we frequently pray for needy people, and even buy them free Bibles.
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Your comments suggest you are ignorant of anything outside your cosey comfort zone.
Your comments suggest you are ignorant of the vast majority of the Bible.
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This is a tiresome game. I am simply giving you a warning. God's love has prevailed. The Biblical Law is not some pie in the sky future event. It's now, it's real, and it's active in my life.

Please read Matthew 5-7 for how to live as a follower and believer.

*shakes dust of feet*
Please read Genesis 1-Matthew 4 and Matthew 8-Revelation 22, since your Biblical knowledge seems to be sorely lacking.


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-07-2009, 12:08 AM

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So you agree it's appropriate to brutally destroy Quakers, Anglicans, and similar blasphemous scum? Praise Jesus, there's hope for you yet.
Certainly Not. 6th commandment methinks.

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Chapter and verse, sinner.
Erm, New Testement. Most of it. And I am a sinner, agreed, but a sinner saved.

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Can you walk on water? I'd advise trying that before you eat a prostitute, or whatever you atheist types get up to.
I have not yet walked on water. My faith is not yet strong enough, but it is something I intend to do one day if my Father takes me to a position where it is required.

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Britain, you mongoloid. I bet you can't even give secular proof for that claim you made about the harlotry lifestyle choice.
I can actually, although I got told off for linking to other websites before, so I suggest you search yourself, using google. Thousands of people are given no choice but to become prostitutes. If you live in the real world, you may know.

And nice we have something in common, namely that we both come from Britain. I agree, it is unsaved, and needs completely refocussed on God.

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Where in God's law does it say that dead Muslims can own property? And don't worry, we frequently pray for needy people, and even buy them free Bibles.
Where does it say Christians can? Jesus actually tells his followers to sell their stuff and give the money to the needy. And giving somebody a Bible is a great thing, truly brilliant, but there are other ways to help too. No where near as good, true, but still other ways to be loving, which we should do as well.

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Your comments suggest you are ignorant of the vast majority of the Bible.

Please read Genesis 1-Matthew 4 and Matthew 8-Revelation 22, since your Biblical knowledge seems to be sorely lacking.
As I have repeatedly said, I have read the Bible many times. And I love it.
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Jesus actually tells his followers to sell their stuff and give the money to the needy. And giving somebody a Bible is a great thing, truly brilliant, but there are other ways to help too. No where near as good, true, but still other ways to be loving, which we should do as well.
i thinks it betterer to give a bible than to give foods to poor folks cuz if they reads the bible an get saveds then they gonna stay saveds, cuz they will starves to death real quick, an then they go to heavens. but if you gives them a bible an also some foods then they live longers an maybee they backslides away from lord God cuz they gots more time to thinks themselfs outta salvations.

maybee when we gives bibles to poor folk we should confisscates any foods they have, for thier own good, for thier eternill salvations? it be the kind thang to do, it true
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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-07-2009, 04:57 AM

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Certainly Not. 6th commandment methinks.
Stop with the Old Testament rubbish! You can eat shellfish or a bacon cheeseburger, unless you are willing to admit that God commands slaughter and death for eating them.

What is it with you right winger nutjobs? In one sentence you are condemning stoning of children, marrying your rapist or killing witches. In the next, you are quoting the ten commandments!

Did Jesus say only the 10 or did he somewhere say the entire Law?


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Erm, New Testement. Most of it. And I am a sinner, agreed, but a sinner saved.
You admit you follow most of it? Perhaps, there is hope for you yet. Just know, there is a group of us who understand it's all metaphorical, anyway. We understand that God is nothing but Pure Love®!

We'll all get to heaven! We can wrap our minds around the parts that we like and disregard the parts that are too tough to follow, friend.

We just have to be good people!



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I have not yet walked on water. My faith is not yet strong enough, but it is something I intend to do one day if my Father takes me to a position where it is required.
Oh wow! I didn't realize I was dealing with a total crackpot until this part.

You really believe you can walk on water?
Do you really believe you get to ask God for whatever you want and you get it?

How is that working out for you?

No, it's only through good works and faithful service that we are rewarded.

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Where does it say Christians can? Jesus actually tells his followers to sell their stuff and give the money to the needy.
Indeed it does! It also says that we should help Jesus first.

For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.

What are you going to believe? An allegorical story or your own conscience?



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And giving somebody a Bible is a great thing, truly brilliant, but there are other ways to help too. No where near as good, true, but still other ways to be loving, which we should do as well.
I believe we are seeing eye to eye here. After Church I did the bake sale to help the Humane Society. Yesterday morning I was at the soup kitchen at 8 a.m. Yesterday afternoon my neighbor and I worked on repairs to house of an old widow with no one to help her.

It's through good deeds that we can smugly look down on these Landerovarians, knowing that we are better than they are.


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As I have repeatedly said, I have read the Bible many times. And I love it.
I would invite you to my Church to celebrate your conversion, but we Universalists are notoriously lazy. You're okay. I'm okay..

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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-07-2009, 06:19 AM

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Did Jesus say only the 10 or did he somewhere say the entire Law?
The answre is in the Bible you lazy sinner:
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"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

-Jesus

Matthew 5:17-18
At the time Jesus said these exact word, "The Law" was all of what we now know should have been called the "Old Testament." Jesus makes it VERY CLEAR that the law doesn't change just because he has shown up.

Most sissy-liberal Christians conveniently skip this part. Why? Because it makes life inconvenient for them. Well, we simply think our our faith in God and JESUS CHRIST is more important than any inconvenience it causes us.

How is that wrong?


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Default Re: A Warm Greeting To All! - 12-07-2009, 10:27 PM

wow, thanks for such an amazing sermon on love! Funadamental in Gods nature, and really difficult for us to follow through on!

Wow, I love youre use of Bible quotes on here. Sometimes people don't back themselves up with a Bible quote or a bit of well known knowladge, and you wonder where it came from!
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