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Default He was all races - 11-26-2014, 10:08 AM

While i may be a atheist i agree 100% of Jesus's philosophy and debating about his race seems to diminish his teachings, does it really matter what color he was but what he said and did. I personally think if he was real and did walk this earth he wasn't one race he was all races
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While i may be a atheist i agree 100% of Jesus's philosophy and debating about his race seems to diminish his teachings, does it really matter what color he was but what he said and did. I personally think if he was real and did walk this earth he wasn't one race he was all races
I have read your posts and I must say I was a bit skeptic. But this one is GOOD NEWS. You agree 100% with Jesus. So do I. There IS something we have in common.



How would you summarize the teachings of Jesus? Mine is as follows:

We must fear and obey God (=Jesus). Through that we can win His love and secure a place in heaven. If we fail to do that, we are damned, Jesus will slay us and we'll end up in the bottomless pit of Fire.

Scriptural references:

John 3:18

He that believeth on him is not condemned : but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Matthew 13:50
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


As of now you agree with Jesus. The only things that remain are belief, repentance and being baptized. Thereafter you'll be welcome to chill with us in Heaven with JESUS for Eternity.




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Default Re: He was all races - 11-26-2014, 06:33 PM

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While i may be a atheist i agree 100% of Jesus's philosophy...
Really? Or are you just showing how ignorant you are of "Jesus's [sic] philosophy"?

Luke 19:27 "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

See what He said there? "SLAY THEM BEFORE ME"? That means YOU.

Still so wild about Jesus?


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Luke 19:27 "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

See what He said there? "SLAY THEM BEFORE ME"? That means YOU.
And yet He didn't say how to slay them. I like to think Jesus left that open for interpretation to give us some leeway in the methods we use. I also like to think He would want us to prolong their slaying in order to give them a chance to repent. Jesus most likely wants us to drag it out over a period of weeks.

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More than ever. Glory!


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Really? Or are you just showing how ignorant you are of "Jesus's [sic] philosophy"?

Luke 19:27 "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

See what He said there? "SLAY THEM BEFORE ME"? That means YOU.

Still so wild about Jesus?
No, no, I can see where you've got it wrong.

He did not say that, it was just a tale to tell. A tale that meant well? Yes. It was that.
Take a look at the source - - -
Luke 19:2-10 And, behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus, which was the chief among the publicans, and he was rich. And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature. And he ran before, and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him: for he was to pass that way. And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house. And he made haste, and came down, and received him joyfully. And when they saw it, they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner. And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold. And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
What next?
A short tale meant for truth. It deals with one man and how he treats his slaves. From the start this is made clear, a Duke? an Earl? we don't know. Let's read on.
Luke 19:11-27 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear. He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us. And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds. And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities. And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds. And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities. And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin: For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow. And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury? And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds. (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.) For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him. But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Sort it out. Whose slaves should die? The man's in the tale? Yes! That is the point of the tale! IT'S A TALE!! Don't fall in this pit, don't say it's real.

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Default Re: He was all races - 11-28-2014, 11:01 AM

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Jesus told parables so that people wouldn't know what He meant.

Lk 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

So it comes as no surprise you don't know what He meant. The nobleman in the story represents Jesus. Verse 11 makes it clear Jesus is talking about Himself.

Lk 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

The main character in most parables represents Jesus. Jesus loved talking about Himself. The lord in the Parable of the Wise and Foolish Servants (Lk 12:42-48) represents the Son of Man (see Lk 12:40). The Son of Man is Jesus.

Lk 12:46-48a
46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes.


Why can't you be like the Pharisees, who knew what Jesus' parables meant?

Mt 21:44-45 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.


Mt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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The lord in the Parable of the Wise and Foolish Servants (Lk 12:42-48) represents the Son of Man (see Lk 12:40). The Son of Man is Jesus.
Is it? How do you know that? It's not what the book says. You just made that up so it would make sense to you.

Who's this, then?
Ezekiel 2:1 1 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee.
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Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?


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Have you ever looked at a picture or painting of a black Jesus and thought to yourself, “This just doesn’t feel right?” You ask yourself, “Is the painter joking? Is he making fun of Jesus?” The answer is yes, the artist is being sarcastic and that artist is surely burning in hell’s fire as I type this.

Jesus was white. Yes, He was born in the Middle East, but His father was not Middle Eastern, He was God. God is NOT Middle Eastern. When was the last time you saw a painting of God with a Turban wrapped around His head? Never? Exactly.

God is white. God has always been white. Every depiction, every description and every painting I have seen of God has been white. God impregnated Mary, NOT Joseph. Therefor, Jesus is white.

That is what drew people to Him in the first place. A white skinned man in the Middle East 2000 years ago was surely a miracle and Jesus was and is a miracle worker.

Now look at Heaven. Heaven is mostly made of feathery white clouds with rays of light shooting through them, which according to most Christians I know, would make the inhabitants white.

Also, white is amazingly proficient at reflecting light, which is very important when living in Heaven because it’s much closer to the sun than living on the Earth. This white skin prevents you from getting cancer in Heaven and I’m sure stops many other diseases in their tracks.

So, next time you start babbling on about how, “Jesus was Middle Eastern and couldn’t have been white”, save yourself the embarrassment and look at the Facts!

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He was white, Arabs and Jews belong to white race. And so what? Why his skin color matters? He was white because Jews were the only mono-theist People back then, if there was some Chinese or black nation only mono-theist People, he would appear as Chinese or as a black man.
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No, you are mistaken. We used to have a lot of Negroes, but now we just have a few Mexicans.


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Default Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! - 02-01-2015, 08:30 AM

I am white, i am Slavic. But of all the problems in our sinful lives, you are debating was Jesus white. ?! That is racist. I can understand that some of white People don't like blacks and others, but leave God out of our silly human disputes. If you think God will judge us biased on the color of our skin, instead our sins, then we have it all wrong.
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Default Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! - 02-01-2015, 10:32 AM

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I am white, i am Slavic. But of all the problems in our sinful lives, you are debating was Jesus white. ?! That is racist. I can understand that some of white People don't like blacks and others, but leave God out of our silly human disputes. If you think God will judge us biased on the color of our skin, instead our sins, then we have it all wrong.
Why is it racist for Jesus to have white skin?
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Default Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! - 02-01-2015, 10:36 AM

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Why is it racist for Jesus to have white skin?
Your fiery need to prove it is racist. And the absurd is no one is arguing that Jesus embodied himself in a white body. But clearly you would have problem with your faith if he was black or some other race.
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Default Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! - 02-01-2015, 10:39 AM

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But clearly you would have problem with your faith if he was black or some other race.
But whatever is the point of this hypothesis? It's like saying surely we would have a problem if He had been a space alien. He wasn't. Nor was he black.

You seem to be the racist here, friend.


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Default Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! - 02-01-2015, 10:46 AM

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Your fiery need to prove it is racist. And the absurd is no one is arguing that Jesus embodied himself in a white body. But clearly you would have problem with your faith if he was black or some other race.


There's no need not "prove" anything about the skin color of Jesus. The Bible tells us that it is white!



Revelation 1:13-15
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and [his] hairs [were] white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

It is all about accepting the Bible as the absolute Truth™. Then you'll have to follow it. If we apply this to the current question we get an answer as follows:
1. Jesus is white. It is the Truth™.
2. If we want to follow Jesus we have to follow Jesus as he is, a white person.
I'm sure you feel better about this now!


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But whatever is the point of this hypothesis? It's like saying surely we would have a problem if He had been a space alien. He wasn't. Nor was he black.

You seem to be the racist here, friend.
No you are being racists, having that terrible need to prove, something that no one is arguing with, that Jesus was white. Yes he was white, he was white because Jews were white. If Jews were Asian, He would be Asian, if Jews were black, he would be black, if Jews were Indian, he would be Indian. He embodied himself as a Jew because Jews were the only monotheist nation on earth back then. He said we should baptize all Peoples on earth, i am not sure that you have black People in your church, for example. Why is that? If you had black People in your Church, then this thread would be offensive to them, they would think, why my brothers are so eager to point out that Jesus human form on Earth was white... Do they hate me because i am not white?
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No you are being racists, having that terrible need to prove, something that no one is arguing with, that Jesus was white. Yes he was white, he was white because Jews were white. If Jews were Asian, He would be Asian, if Jews were black, he would be black, if Jews were Indian, he would be Indian. He embodied himself as a Jew because Jews were the only monotheist nation on earth back then. He said we should baptize all Peoples on earth, i am not sure that you have black People in your church, for example. Why is that? If you had black People in your Church, then this thread would be offensive to them, they would think, why my brothers are so eager to point out that Jesus human form on Earth was white... Do they hate me because i am not white?
I am so sorry for you. Things are bad but not hopeless. I suppose the Russian education system has still not totally recovered from the commie era.

You see, we have indisputable proof that Jesus was NOT a Jew. I can see that there is a lot of catching up to do to give you an education and the link above could be a decent start.

In the Real Bible Jesus often refers to Joos as something that is exterior to Him, another group of people.

John 13:33
Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.

I'm also praying for you!


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I am so sorry for you. Things are bad but not hopeless. I suppose the Russian education system has still not totally recovered from the commie era.

You see, we have indisputable proof that Jesus was NOT a Jew. I can see that there is a lot of catching up to do to give you an education and the link above could be a decent start.

In the Real Bible Jesus often refers to Joos as something that is exterior to Him, another group of people.

John 13:33
Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.

I'm also praying for you!


Yours in Christ,

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Okay, He wasn't Jew and He was white. Now what? I am interested to know, do you have other races than the superior white one in your Baptist Church?
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