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The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-23-2008, 09:12 PM
Science has long noted sudden change in species and been puzzled by it. From time to time animals will suddenly, as if over night, show abrupt changes in appearance or behavior. The most famous example is the English moth that changed from white Biston betularia f. to the dark Biston betularia f. carbonaria.
Puzzled by these rapid changes in otherwise static world science has puzzled long and hard over it and offered many theories on the matter. Darwinists have cynically used this of proof that magical animals that give birth to children that bear no resemblance to their parents. Obviously magic is not something rational good and true Christians can accept.
Well finally Christian science has an explanation; Punctuated Smiting. In essence this exciting new theory offers a comprehensive explanation without resorting to naturalism or other pagan superstitions. It takes biology out of the dank dungeon of secularism and into the light of God’s sweet reason.
It goes like this;
God creates a species for His ineffable purpose.
The Species angers God for some sin it commits.
God is wrathful and destroys the species.
God repents of His wrath, creates another species that is slightly different.
God replaces the smoted species with it. This why their species change appear to happen so fast! In the blink of an eye God sends His angels to annihilate every member of species without mercy and then in the next blink replace it with a similar one. With His perfect, unending love for His creation God removes what it bad and replaces it with the good, until He decided that good has sinned and must be liquidated.
Punctuated Smiting is just simple good Christian science and that is why we Christians accept it.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-23-2008, 10:10 PM
Brilliant! Are you the author of this excellence or are you the Godly messenger?
The beauty is that it was there before our eyes all the time and we never saw it! What can be better than a Divine Mystery being revealed unto us? Could it be better? No!
All those so called biological scientists and naturalists can pack up their fraudulent equipment, go home and repent.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 12:21 AM
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Punctuated Smiting is just simple good Christian science and that is why we Christians accept it.
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Punctuated smiting is just pure hogwash and that's why you Christians accept it.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 02:01 AM
If God is omniscent then why would He create a species that He knows will sin?
I would like you to meet my imaginary friend, God.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 02:09 AM
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If God is omniscent then why would He create a species that He knows will sin?
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GOD can change His mind anytime He wants! Didn't you even know that, dingdong?
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 02:14 AM
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Punctuated smiting is just pure hogwash and that's why you Christians accept it.
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Why would we accept something (a) that was "hogwash" and (b) written by you?
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If God is omniscent then why would He create a species that He knows will sin?
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Clearly the creature served its Godly purpose and God allowed it to do its own thing (as He does with us) then, being deficient in the soul area, and thus unable to benefit from Salvation, the creature went and did something contrary to God's wishes, for which, it was smitten. Rather like you're doing here.
Why does God send people to Hell if he knew they were going to sin anyway? -people have free will, they should use it sensibly.
God said that He created evil - so I suppose He has to do something with it - perhaps He used it on the unicorn that thus became extinct and was immediately replaced by a horse. (Just a humble educated guess.)
I don't understand why anyone should think that they should know why God does anything. I bet you were one of those annoying kids who kept chanting "Why?" long after you stopped understanding any of the answers.
As above, one (out of thousands) of His mysteries has been solved, over time more will be revealed -but slowly and in God's time, not yours.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 02:20 AM
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Why does God send people to Hell if he knew they were going to sin anyway? -people have free will, they should use it sensibly.
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Also God deeply loves His creation. That why despite His perfect knowledge that tells Him His creation will turn around and spit in His face, He creates in the hope it will defy His will and obey worship Him.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 02:20 AM
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GOD can change His mind anytime He wants! Didn't you even know that, dingdong?
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He can only if He already knew he was going to change my mind. Let's do some role playing:
I'm going to be God for a little bit (I'm probably going to get a refraction for doing this):
- I feel like making a new species today, but I already know that because I know the future.
- I have created this species and I know it will ultimately will sin. (Because I designed the species that way)
- Ahh. The species has finally sinned, I can now remove it and replace it with a better species, one I know will be good.
- That was fun and predictable because I am omniscent.
- What is left for me to do now but create more sinful species that I already know I am going to create. Well let me think about it, oh wait I don't have to because I know everything.
You are either telling me that God is not omniscent or He is not intellignet, because an intelligent God would just make the good species. He can't be both.
I would like you to meet my imaginary friend, God.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 02:36 AM
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He can only if He already knew he was going to change my mind. Let's do some role playing:
I'm going to be God for a little bit (I'm probably going to get a refraction for doing this):
- I feel like making a new species today, but I already know that because I know the future.
- I have created this species and I know it will ultimately will sin. (Because I designed the species that way)
- Ahh. The species has finally sinned, I can now remove it and replace it with a better species, one I know will be good.
- That was fun and predictable because I am omniscent.
- What is left for me to do now but create more sinful species that I already know I am going to create. Well let me think about it, oh wait I don't have to because I know everything.
You are either telling me that God is not omniscent or He is not intellignet, because an intelligent God would just make the good species. He can't be both.
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Ling,
Do you really think you can understand the thinking of a being who exists outside time?
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 03:38 AM
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Ling,
Do you really think you can understand the thinking of a being who exists outside time?
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It does not matter how many dimensions God exists in, He alters what happens in this spacetime universe. If He knows what happens in this spacetime universe, then he can not be omniscent and intelligent.
I would like you to meet my imaginary friend, God.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 05:02 AM
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Punctuated smiting is just pure hogwash and that's why you Christians accept it.
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The story of Biston betularia f. typical (white-bodied peppered moth) and Biston betularia f. carbonaria (black-bodied peppered moth) is a long and controversial episode in the history of the "theory" of Eviloution that continues to this day. Many of the so-called "scientists" can't agree on just what happened. Because the change was observed to happen of the span of a few years, it runs counter to the Darwinist "theory" that chance mutation and natural selection takes place over long periods of time.
Before you start your boring self-absorbed unctuous pronouncements, you would do well to acquaint yourself with the facts. Brother BJ's explanation fits the facts better than any "theory" of evolution will ever do.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 12:43 PM
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Also God deeply loves His creation. That why despite His perfect knowledge that tells Him His creation will turn around and spit in His face, He creates in the hope it will defy His will and obey worship Him.
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If God is truly omniscient, and he "knows" something will happen, then that thing must happen. If he hopes that it won't that means that his knowledge is not perfect, therefore he is fallible.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 01:30 PM
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It does not matter how many dimensions God exists in, He alters what happens in this spacetime universe. If He knows what happens in this spacetime universe, then he can not be omniscent and intelligent.
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Look, I have spoken on this one - You are demanding explanations for the Mind of God. We (and that certainly includes you) are but poor mortals who simply do not have the ability to understand all His doings.
Your "scientists" will tell you that they don't understand many things. You seem quite happy to believe them without question and have "faith" that an explanation will arise at some time. This is how God operates - there is an explanation for everything, it is just that we (and that certainly includes you) are not privy to it.
Bobby-Joe's Punctuated Smiting fits all the possible circumstances. The empirical evidence is there. A mystery explained!
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04-24-2008, 01:32 PM
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If God is truly omniscient, and he "knows" something will happen, then that thing must happen. If he hopes that it won't that means that his knowledge is not perfect, therefore he is fallible.
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No! No! No! Read it all, it merely means that we do not understand - your post shows clearly that you don't understand. The fact that you don't understand something does not make that fact wrong.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 01:55 PM
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If God is omniscent then why would He create a species that He knows will sin?
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Because God is perfect.
In order for God to know Himself as perfect, there must be something imperfect, ie: sinning hoardes. To remain perfect, God must punish the sin because it is imperfect. To not punish the sin would make God imperfect, as sin is evil and God is good.
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04-24-2008, 02:16 PM
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Because God is perfect.
In order for God to know Himself as perfect, there must be something imperfect, ie: sinning hoardes. To remain perfect, God must punish the sin because it is imperfect. To not punish the sin would make God imperfect, as sin is evil and God is good.
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If your god would be perfect, he would make a perfect planet, with perfect living creatures, because only perfect things could make other perfect things. And the planet isn't perfect (with all the wars and stuff...) so that means your theory about "a great powerful being" is wrong.
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04-24-2008, 02:21 PM
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If your god would be perfect, he would make a perfect planet, with perfect living creatures, because only perfect things could make other perfect things. And the planet isn't perfect (with all the wars and stuff...) so that means your theory about "a great powerful being" is wrong.
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What an idiot you are. You really have never read the Holy Bible, have you. But you expect us to all listen to you....Pathetic.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-24-2008, 02:25 PM
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If your god would be perfect, he would make a perfect planet, with perfect living creatures, because only perfect things could make other perfect things. And the planet isn't perfect (with all the wars and stuff...) so that means your theory about "a great powerful being" is wrong.
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No. Now you are into the issue of free choice. What would free choice be if there was only the choice of perfection?
God allows you to choose between perfection and imperfection. Then he perfectly guides you to perfection by punishing your imperfection (ie. sin) until you achieve perfection also.
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04-25-2008, 04:12 AM
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He can only if He already knew he was going to change my mind. Let's do some role playing:
I'm going to be God for a little bit
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Stop right there. No need to read further. What an ego you must have to think that in any way you could even approach the majesty that is Our Heavenly Father!
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If God is truly omniscient, and he "knows" something will happen, then that thing must happen. If he hopes that it won't that means that his knowledge is not perfect, therefore he is fallible.
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Did you come up with this pathetic argument all on your own, or have you been reading The Bible for Dummies again?
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If your god would be perfect, he would make a perfect planet, with perfect living creatures, because only perfect things could make other perfect things. And the planet isn't perfect (with all the wars and stuff...) so that means your theory about "a great powerful being" is wrong.
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Whoa! Why do you say that the planet isn't perfect without wars and stuff? God likes wars and stuff! That's why he put so many Amalekites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Canaanites, Edomites, Egyptians, Greeks, Midianites, Moabites, Persians, Philistines, Romans, Hittites, and Arameans in and around the Holy Land for the Israelites to slaughter. It's why he created Arabs, too. You seem to be confusing peaceful with perfect, when they are entirely different concepts.
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God allows you to choose between perfection and imperfection.
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This is an amazingly simple concept, but Ling has obvously chosen imperfection, which is why he can't understand this at all.
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Re: The Christian Science theory of Punctuated Smiting -
04-13-2010, 09:02 AM
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If God is omniscent then why would He create a species that He knows will sin?
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You are looking at this from the wrong perspective. You are looking at it from the perspective of the species God destroys. But those are irrelevant, as is proven by the fact that God destroys them. The perspective that counts is the one of the survivors. They can witness how our Almighty LORD smites those that do not live up to His expectations and learn from that. Punctuated smiting is a way to improve all of us!
A recent example of this is Obama. Many Americans made the huge mistake of voting for Obama and God is punishing us for that each and every day so that we can all learn from that big mistake. E.g. by letting gays destroy our army from the inside out and by reducing our nuclear arsenal. And if we do not learn from that mistake God will just hit us harder and harder until we do. Not unlike what every loving father would do for his children.
Isn't it amazing to see God's might in action?
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