[Johny Joe Hold]

My hobby, and maybe in part a professional obligation of being Mayor, is to keep track of all the goody two shoes who are trying to "help" Christians like us "change".

Now another one has surfaced.

http://www.christianpost.com/article...n-stereotypes/

This groups says it wants to make Christians more likeable, more popular. A former atheist says that secular people see us a intolerant, judgemental and homophobic. And what, I'm wondering, is wrong with that?

Those are qualities. We aquire them through study of the Bible.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Oh, so now we're supposed to be popular rather than teach God's Word just as it is?

James 4:4: Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

To those who take offense at Godly Biblical teaching, I say,

Galatians 4:16: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

[Oakland "Reb" Griner]

These liberal fluffy bunny 'Christianity Lite' Christians just don't get it, do they?

Why would a True Christian change before God commands a change?

And I bet the other cafeteria Christians, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Catholics, the Anglicans, and all the rest, are just going to have a collective ecumenical orgasm over that article.

Still, Christ will prevail over even the least of His lax followers!

[Jonathan Prestor]

Amen Mr. Hold! I am always sickened and dismayed to see the level of pandering these fluffy bunny, feel-good christians stoop to in their efforts to appease the unsaved masses. Our Lord is a vengeful Lord, our Lord is a wrathful Lord, and, above all, our Lord is a righteous Lord. So what if the Bible isn't always "politically correct"? Just as Paul was not ashamed of that fact, neither should we be!

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ..." Romans 1:17

Do you see that, false christians? A righteous man has absolutely no reason to be ashamed of his faith in Jesus, because all things that stem from that faith also stem from righteousness. There is nothing shameful about working towards a world where sodomites are stoned for being the vile abominations they are, a world where every woman is totally submissive to the will of her husband and Lord, a world where unbelievers are given the choice between conversion and painful death, and above all a world where all men know the glory of our Lord and Savior Jesus! I would submit that any "christian" who thinks otherwise is the true hypocrite, a hypocrite that judges True Christians™ not in righteousness, but in wickedness and fear. And I would point out to them one of my favorite verses, and make sure they took special notice of the first group of people mentioned who will be taking their place in the lake of fire!

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelation 21:8

Yes, I am intolerant of sin, righteously judgemental, and I hate sodomites, because I aspire to be just like my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!

Praise the Lord!

[jennabenna]

Ha! Truth... Who among us can really say they know truth? All you have to back your word is a book of childrens tales combined with your very own inner monster. All I have to back my word is basic common sense, combined with the sense of the wonderful people around me. And we all must decide what to believe.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by jennabenna

And we all must decide what to believe.

I'll believe the one that will save me from the lake of fire, if that's okay by you.

[Levi Jones]

White has taken the argument a step further and states that church members and leaders have blatantly turned them off by "hating the sin and the sinner." He said this is most evident with homosexuality. Church leaders have mixed the Bible with politics to condemn homosexuals for their lifestyles, he lamented.
Though the sentiment may be based on the Bible, he noted, "The things we say and the way we say them turn them off."

I really don't even know where to begin with this. All I do know is that Dan needs to spend more time reading his Bible instead of claiming to be a Christian.



Yeah, it's just politics that says homosexuals are an abomination.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Levi Jones

I really don't even know where to begin with this. All I do know is that Dan needs to spend more time reading his Bible instead of claiming to be a Christian.



Yeah, it's just politics that says homosexuals are an abomination.

I'd like to hear how he would suggest saying, "God says that your sexual behavior is an abomination, and that He will cast you into His Lake of Fire and burn you alive forever and ever. Oh, and He also commands us to stone you to death, but we can't because secular laws forbid it at the present time and He also commands us to follow secular laws" in a loving manner that won't "turn off" homosexuals.

I'd also like to hear how he would suggest saying, "I don't want my children exposed to homosexual teachers, doctors, dentists, cops, firemen, construction workers, or anyone else that they might see as a role model and suddenly think that it is OK to be gay. That's not because I hate homosexuals; it's because I don't want my child to join you abominations burning in God's Lake of Fire for all eternity."

Seriously!

[Levi Jones]

Amen! At least some of the commentators to the thread have it right. I commend these courageous posters speaking the Truth in the face of the liberal false Christians lining up to denounce them.


RepenTrustJesus Brad White does not know what he is talking about, Jesus said in John 7:7 that the world "...hates Me because I testify of it that its works are evil." Preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ our Lord is offensive because it shows the world that it is evil.Jesus forgave the adultrous woman, but He also commanded her to "go and sin no more."


foreveralive RepenTrustJesus: “the truth is that the non-believers or the back sliders Christians are treating the real Christians ( the ones that take the Bible seriously) as scapegoats to justify their sins and not coming to Christ.”

Absolutely. It’s a battle for the truth as an apostate church seeks to re-draw the lines between true biblical Christianity and a re-imagining of the true faith. These deluded people honestly believe that “they” are the ones who have shown up in the 11th hour to rescue the truth from the last 2000 years of error. To their thinking, “they” had the answers all along. They are deceived by satan, and they’re molly-coddling the sins of a nation under the banner of “love”. They’re blind guides of the blind.

everhopeful Let's face it. We are to love others, but we are also to speak out against sin. It's a challenge to balance those two.

Unfortunately, there's this idea that some people hold that says we MUST be tolerant, meaning that we must accept everything that everybody thinks, says and does without criticism. Some people mistakenly see this kind of all-inclusive tolerance as loving others. It isn't. And I always notice that those who are screaming for this kind of tolerance are intolerant of Christians who refuse to accept everything that everybody thinks, says and does as okay. Too many people calling for tolerance don't see the intolerance in themselves at all!

This is the reality for us Christians: We can't be tolerant of those things that will separate people from God for eternity. And the sad fact is that, no matter how lovingly we may point out a sin, we are still going to be seen as intolerant, narrow-minded bigots by people who want us to agree with their idea of what's right and wrong re: homosexuality, abortion or any other sin out there. And yet, it is out of love that we speak out.

There are several things I find lacking in churches. One is a knowledge of basic Biblical doctrine and the absolute truth of it. Without that solid foundation, Christians are useless in the world. The second is encouragement and support of each person's spiritual formation. Too many people are satisfied to have their salvation, but don't work on the sanctification process that should come following conversion. As the Holy Spirit makes us more Christ-like, we will be more effective in the world. less

[Johny Joe Hold]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

I'd like to hear how he would suggest saying, "God says that your sexual behavior is an abomination, and that He will cast you into His Lake of Fire and burn you alive forever and ever. Oh, and He also commands us to stone you to death, but we can't because secular laws forbid it at the present time and He also commands us to follow secular laws" in a loving manner that won't "turn off" homosexuals.

I'd also like to hear how he would suggest saying, "I don't want my children exposed to homosexual teachers, doctors, dentists, cops, firemen, construction workers, or anyone else that they might see as a role model and suddenly think that it is OK to be gay. That's not because I hate homosexuals; it's because I don't want my child to join you abominations burning in God's Lake of Fire for all eternity."

I don't want to be like those homer politicans who cry in public these days, but I have to admit I became a little choked up when I read a beautiful post like the Rev.'s.

We have to hold fast to the judgements we make about sinners because we are called by Jesus and the Bible to do so. There are so many here to help us do that and I am greatful.

JJH

[Nobar King]

I know that I am intolerant. In fact, I think the list of things that I can tolerate is shorter than the list of things that I can't tolerate.

[Brother Helge]

Originally Posted by jennabenna

Ha! Truth... Who among us can really say they know truth?

John 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

[BaronOB]

Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold

This groups says it wants to make Christians more likeable, more popular.

It will be not a true Christianity, but a so-called Christinaity, a true Christian must always follow the Holy Bible, not the political correct fluffy bunny blah-blah.