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Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "age of -
07-05-2007, 06:15 PM
Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "age of accountibility" ?
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07-05-2007, 09:02 PM
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Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "age of accountibility" ?
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Where do you get the idea of "age of accountability"?
First off, the answer to your question is a resounding NO.
Secondly, babies are children.
But lets use the Bible (kjv1611) to answer your question.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
See, by one man (Adam) sin entered the world... and death. And all men get death, because ALL (have) sinned.
I don't see an exclusion for that last all. There's no asterisk with a footnote at the bottom of the page that says *need of salvation isn't necessary before one reaches the "**age of accountability"
** "age of accountability" can range from 8-19 based on local laws and regulations.
Friend, lets think about Jesus for a second. Did you know that the Joos had to take a sacrifice to the temple after the woman's "unclean" time after child birth? Do you know why that is? It's because giving birth is an unclean act, and unclean things are the result of sin.
Leviticus 12:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
7 Who shall offer it before the LORD, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
8 And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.
So Mary had to take two pigeons for the Lord.
Luke 2:22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
24 And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.
So you see, being born is an act of sin. Giving birth is an act of sin.
That's why there is no "age of accountability", the word "accountability" isn't even in the Bible (Kjv1611).
Hope this answers your question.
Children go to hell when they die.
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-05-2007, 10:03 PM
disgusting!
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-05-2007, 10:09 PM
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disgusting!
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Friend, you were just taken on a spiritual tour by the legendary Brother V which Jesus Himself would be applauding. Word for word from the Bible. And all you can come up with is "disgusting"?
I'm stunned, I'm completely floored. You'd best beg Baby Jesus to forgive you right now sinner; that insult you hurled was way below the belt.
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-05-2007, 10:15 PM
but babies don't know between wrong and right so how can they go to hell when they are completly innocent ?
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-05-2007, 10:30 PM
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but babies don't know between wrong and right so how can they go to hell when they are completly innocent ?
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Friend, I'm but a cog in the giant wheel of Christ; a simple man with simple dreams. That's why the Bible is so important to me because I don't have to think...it's all right in there. And I'm not sure how you can say babies are innocent when there's been documented cases of them showing homosexual behaviour at the age of 4 months. Kind of like demons from the womb. And negro babies are practically born holding their genitals; they never let go of them.
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-05-2007, 10:44 PM
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Children go to hell when they die.
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What about True Christian ™ kids? Or the sort seen on Jesus Camp?
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-05-2007, 11:25 PM
Then how do you explain this: Luke 18:16-17, Jesus remarked: “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.”and this: Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives ??
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-05-2007, 11:54 PM
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but babies don't know between wrong and right so how can they go to hell when they are completly innocent ?
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Your idea of innocent, and God's idea of innocent, are two different things. This is a typical example of arrogant thinking from unsaved scum. You think you know more than God? Wrong again.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-06-2007, 05:06 AM
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Then how do you explain this: Luke 18:16-17, Jesus remarked: “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.”and this: Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives ??
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"Let the little children come to me," yes, and why? Because if the heathen parents forbid it, they doom their children! "Whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it." The little child HAS to receive the kingdom of God! Not receiving it dooms them!
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-11-2007, 12:10 AM
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but babies don't know between wrong and right so how can they go to hell when they are completly innocent ?
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Most negroes don't know the difference between wrong and right, so I suppose you think they should go to Heaven as well?
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-20-2007, 06:17 PM
The bible has been translated and re-done so many times you cant say anything is word for word from the bible! If it isnt in the original format of the original bible it cannot be word for word from the bible.
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-20-2007, 08:58 PM
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disgusting!
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The alternative is even more disgusting. Did you ever consider the number of abortions? I don't just mean the illegal abortions that take place every day in third world Scandinavian countries - I mean miscarriages in general.
It's estimated that 50% of all impregnated eggs ends up as miscarriages. That's billions of fetuses, who are burning in Hell as we speak, because they never had a chance to repent their sins and accept Jesus as their personal Savior. Praise!
The Good Book tells us that only 144.000 firstfruits will be allowed into Heaven. Now, do you suggest in all sobriety that Heaven will be populated by 144.000 True Christians™ and umpteen billion eggs, zygotes and fetuses?
Next time, try to think before you post. Eh?
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but babies don't know between wrong and right so how can they go to hell when they are completly innocent ?
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Because they have sinned.
Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1st Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1st Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
1st Corinthians 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
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Re: Do babies and chilren go to heaven if they die before the "ag -
07-21-2007, 02:36 AM
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The bible has been translated and re-done so many times you cant say anything is word for word from the bible! If it isnt in the original format of the original bible it cannot be word for word from the bible.
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So then we should just ignore it since we don't have the original version written by God? That's exactly what a tool of satan would say...
The KJV1611 Bible IS the original, as dictated by God Himself. The proof is HERE. Take a look, then apologize to God.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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