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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 07:15 AM
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I cannot give you a four year Theology degree in a paragraph. When JESUS spoke those words in the New Testament, he was trying to keep the radical faction of the JOOS from provoking the Romans. He understood that if they did, the Romans would sack Jerusalem and destroy the Temple of David. They didn't listen, Jesus died temporarily, and the Romans sacked Jerusalem and destroyed the temple.
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Ok. I understand that.
So then if Jesus said that to prevent the Jews from provoking Romans at that time, that one incident, then it is not a relevant explanation to my question. Why obey the law of man over the law of god? Bob4God, please explain.
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 07:16 AM
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Ok. I understand that.
So then if Jesus said that to prevent the Jews from provoking Romans at that time, that one incident, then it is not a relevant explanation to my question. Why obey the law of man over the law of god? Bob4God, please explain.
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Because God never rescinded the instruction.
And we don't hop to responding in the order you select, bub. You are a GUEST on this Forum, an UNINVITED GUEST no less, and I suggest you remember that.
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12-22-2008, 07:31 AM
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Jesus wasn't murdered. He was legally executed, which was part of His plan, so He could die temporarily on Good Friday and rise on Easter Sunday, the Third Day.
It's called genocide, dimwit.
Read Numbers 31.
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You did not answer my question. Why did he forgive them? Even if it were part of his plan, they murdered an innocent person, so why should he forgive them?
Your comment makes no sense.
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Honestly Pastor, there is no need for you to be so hateful. I am simply asking questions. I'm not going to just believe something that makes no sense to me. I am going to ask questions and get things clarified so that I may truly understand them. Afterall, if I am to be converted, then I must know the intricacies of the faith so that I may go forth and convert others. Isn't that true? Why would you turn me away when I am here to learn about your faith.
When children in Sunday school ask questions about Jesus, do you tell them to shut up and accept christ?
And again, the hatespeech is really not necessary, as you yourself have said.
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Because God never rescinded the instruction.
And we don't hop to responding in the order you select, bub. You are a GUEST on this Forum, an UNINVITED GUEST no less, and I suggest you remember that.
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Excuse me, but in your Newbies section, it specifically says that I am welcome here if I am here to learn about your religion and if I am here to have a calm, rational discussion. I'm not the one who is calling people "unsaved sack of excrement." You seem to be going against your own rules of this forum.
By the way, I was simply asking for Bob4God to respond since he was the one who told me about the passage to which my question was aimed. I felt that he should tell me what he thought. Are you able to tell me what he was thinking and his interpretation of the words? Are you going to speak on his behalf, because if that's so then I would be happy to talk to you about it.
I'm having a nice conversation with Pastor Al E Pistle. He is responding without hatred and I have no problem with that. I continually have problems with you and Pastor Ezekiel however, because you both continue to attack me. I'd like to have a conversation like an adult but you keep resorting to childish name calling so its very hard to take you seriously or to be open to what you have to say.
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 07:44 AM
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You did not answer my question. Why did he forgive them? Even if it were part of his plan, they murdered an innocent person, so why should he forgive them?
Your comment makes no sense.
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Your question makes no sense.
Execution is not murder. Murder is not execution. Are you that thick-skulled?
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Excuse me, but in your Newbies section, it specifically says that I am welcome here if I am here to learn about your religion and if I am here to have a calm, rational discussion. I'm not the one who is calling people "unsaved sack of excrement." You seem to be going against your own rules of this forum.
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No, you're the one calling Christians "sheep" for following God's Word.
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I continually have problems with you and Pastor Ezekiel however, because you both continue to attack me. I'd like to have a conversation like an adult but you keep resorting to childish name calling so its very hard to take you seriously or to be open to what you have to say.
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Excuse me, I believe you're the one who joined our Christian church forum, uninvited, to call all Christians "sheep" and tell us how hateful we are.
Go play somewhere else, little boy.
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 08:23 AM
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Your question makes no sense.
Execution is not murder. Murder is not execution. Are you that thick-skulled?
No, you're the one calling Christians "sheep" for following God's Word.
Excuse me, I believe you're the one who joined our Christian church forum, uninvited, to call all Christians "sheep" and tell us how hateful we are.
Go play somewhere else, little boy.
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No, I'm not thick-skulled. I, unlike you, have a brain. Yes, I have a thought process that tells me that I should not believe in a text written by man thousands of years ago. Nor should I believe in a faith held by people who deny logic at every turn. Your bible was written by ignorant men to control people. It was meant to keep women silenced and self-entitled men to have a book that says they are better than other people. No man is any better than his brother or sister.
the KJV you love to worship was changed by King James so that he could exert more power over his people. How can you possibly justify living your life by a book that was supposedly written by the hand of god but then changed by King James???? Did god come to KJ and tell him to change it because well gee, god just didn't get it right the first time. How ignorant can you be???
I use my mind to think critically and, unlike you, the sheep, I choose what I believe. I don't follow a bunch of hateful pastors and preachers who use an old book to justify their indecency. No book can justify the murder of another man. No matter what your definition of murder is. Killing a man is killing a man no matter what the reason. You cannot justify taking a man's life because he doesn't believe in a real character contrived by a bunch of HUMANS.
What kind of intelligent person can deny what is SCIENTIFICALLY proven because if doesn't fit into their little fairytale???
I did come in here to learn why you believe what you do so strongly and even to learn about god. But when I saw that all that goes on here is hateful bigotry, racism, and stereotyping, I realized that this was simply the place for a bunch of confused, fearful people to spread their hate and justify their intolerance.
You people are idiots and don't deserve to live amongst intelligent human beings. Your hate does nothing but destroy people and counteract everything that has been done in this world to end injustice and hate and fear and violence and IGNORANCE!!!
I really wish there were a god because if there were, then YOU would be the people going to hell for being malicious, hateful hypocrites.
You're so ignorant that you can't even see the contradictions in your faith or what you preach. Your "god" contradicts himself in the bible at every turn. You are blind to your own faults and hypocrisy. You say true Christians never sin yet how many times have we seen your pastors molest children and engage in illegal prostitution???
I really wish that I could feel sorry for you but you make it impossible because you HATE everyone and everything that a BOOK tells you to.
I tried to be logical and rational and have a real discussion with you but it is impossible to reason with imbeciles.
By the way sister Jenny, I'm not a man. I know that because you have given all your power to men and god, its hard for you to believe that a woman could be intelligent and have her own thoughts but it really can happen. You're the worst of all I have spoken to here tonight. Your bigotry and ability to deny reason is really quite amazing. Even when faced with the clear definition of what your are, you find a way to deny it.
Its pretty great that your bible has an answer for everything. Why do you think that there need be so much talk about the people who will challenge you and deny your beliefs. Its because even the idiots writing the bible knew that what they were making up couldn't be believed by any rational human being.
You people say that democrats want to dumb-down society but Republicans are the ones who want to dumb us down. Educated people become critical thinkers and are able to see the flaws in your religion. You say that democrats want to overtake the world with idiot trash by giving them financial aid. What democrats want is a society of free thinkers who can see through all your religious bullshit and finally over take all the conservative hateful, non progressive idiots who are trying to take over America. YOU!
You ever notice that all those white trash rednecks people you don't like are the ones who believe in god? I wonder why that is. Maybe their lack of education has something to do with it.
The saddest thing about all of this is that you people will NEVER admit when you're wrong no matter how much proof there is against you. You will NEVER be accepting of people different from you. You will NEVER be open to differing ideas. You will ALWAYS be small, pathetic, hateful creatures who falsely believe that your hate will be rewarded. Meanwhile the intelligent people of the world will overpower you by spreading love and tolerance and acceptance. Your time is over. The heathens will take back the world that belongs to those who are unafraid to love and be human and have compassion.
The difference between you and I is not that I do not believe in God. it is that I am open to all possibilities. If ever you can show me proof that god exists, I will not deny you, I will welcome what you have to teach me. You however, when faced with anything that disproves god, will spout hate and anger and deny deny deny. You deny science, unless it supports your faith. You deny anything that does not support your narrow-minded hate doctrine. You are closed off to change because you are afraid that a red man with a little pointy fork will poke you forever. Your faith is of your fear. You will always be afraid and deny change and human decency.
I pray that one day you will find peace and can join the rest of us who would rather have lived our lives in happiness and peace and love than in fear and with hate and ignorance.
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 08:29 AM
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I'm having a nice conversation with Pastor Al E Pistle. He is responding without hatred and I have no problem with that.
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I will endeavour to answer your questions. I am blessed by JESUS with infinite patience and the desire to bring you Salvation™ before you leave, should you ever leave (many find peace here).
But we will have to begin at the beginning. I cannot answer for another Pastor, nor shall I contradict one; for none of us are perfect, and none know all the answers, save one. JESUS.
It is getting late here at Landover West, and I was asked to be available for a call from Barack in the morning (probably from his sister). So I shall take my leave. I may have to fly up there Tuesday, but it's only about thirty minutes in the Landover Gulfstream.
a hui hou
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 08:34 AM
And you may say that I hate you, but really, I do not hate you. I do not like what you say about me because I choose not to take your side. I do not believe that you are right just because you think you are. But I not hate you, I pity you, a man who hate is simply a victim of his own ignorance. So please, do not feel self-righteous in saying that I am a hateful liar and sinner and all the other names you call. I am simply in disbelief. I cannot imagine that any group of people could be so ignorant. It honestly baffles my mind. How can a man look logic straight in the face and deny it? That man must be very very prideful to not be able to admit his own wrongness even when faced squarely by it.
You cannot admit your faults and ignorances. If that is not the trait of a prideful man then I don't know what is. You are the most Proud, self-righteous people that exist and yet you say that you do not sin. Nevermind the fact that pride is a sin. But even faced with this, you will deny it.
There is no changing your minds and I'm OK with that. I'll go home tonight and live my life how I choose to, without hating and stereotyping and you will be home thinking of all the ways to get those vicious sinners. You will waste your lives denying yourselves happiness only to be put in the ground and realize no salvation. I will have spent my life making the world a better place by loving my fellow man.
Enjoy your hatred and pride. I hope that its all worth it.
It was a pleasure speaking with you all.
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 08:52 AM
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How can a man look logic straight in the face and deny it? That man must be very very prideful to not be able to admit his own wrongness even when faced squarely by it.
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Friend, we've said this before, and we'll say it again: you don't need so called "logic" <spit> when you have Jesus on your side.
Psalm 81:10:
I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 12:23 PM
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And you may say that I hate you, but really, I do not hate you. I do not like what you say about me because I choose not to take your side. I do not believe that you are right just because you think you are. But I not hate you, I pity you, a man who hate is simply a victim of his own ignorance. So please, do not feel self-righteous in saying that I am a hateful liar and sinner and all the other names you call. I am simply in disbelief. I cannot imagine that any group of people could be so ignorant. It honestly baffles my mind. How can a man look logic straight in the face and deny it? That man must be very very prideful to not be able to admit his own wrongness even when faced squarely by it.
You cannot admit your faults and ignorances. If that is not the trait of a prideful man then I don't know what is. You are the most Proud, self-righteous people that exist and yet you say that you do not sin. Nevermind the fact that pride is a sin. But even faced with this, you will deny it.
There is no changing your minds and I'm OK with that. I'll go home tonight and live my life how I choose to, without hating and stereotyping and you will be home thinking of all the ways to get those vicious sinners. You will waste your lives denying yourselves happiness only to be put in the ground and realize no salvation. I will have spent my life making the world a better place by loving my fellow man.
Enjoy your hatred and pride. I hope that its all worth it.
It was a pleasure speaking with you all.
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You are one of the most hateful God-mocking sinners I've ever had the displeasure to meet. You imagine that by cloaking your speech in sweet-sounding lies and using passive-aggressive expressions that you sound superior and in control of yourself.
You aren't fooling anyone. Jesus sees through your juvenile insults and snide remarks.
We True Christians™ are the happiest most content people on earth. We KNOW that we are bathed in Christ's blood, that our sins, no matter how vile, have been washed clean. We KNOW that once Judgment Day comes, we will all be sent to Heaven to sit at the table with Jesus and enjoy eternity with Him. You won't find happier folks anywhere.
You, on the other hand, have been nothing but hateful, despite your sugary protests to the contrary, right from the beginning. The fact that you atheists are so angry at the world is further proof of how miserable a life without God must be.
I can't wait to see you burn in hell.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 04:20 PM
The answer to your question is simple.
GOD's word used to be the law of the land so there was no conflict between GOD's rules and human rules. It wasn't until liberalism and science perverted everybody's minds that humans got arrogant enough to decide that GOD's law wasn't good enough for them.
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 05:12 PM
Excuse me, LacksPeaceandUnderstanding, I'm a little late to the game.
You seem unwilling to accept that you chose to register on this Godly forum and immediately began attacking people's beliefs, saying that they are stupid to believe in what "some book" says. That you "have a brain", while they do not. You are full of "peace and understanding", while they are "filled with hate".
You're then offended when they don't welcome your insults with open arms?
If you want respect, Miss, you first have to give it. You have shown none to either God or the people of Landover, and I am not in the least surprised that they have rejected you and your snotty attitude.
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Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 07:07 PM
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-22-2008, 07:51 PM
This is a very hateful thing to say. Jesus sent you here for a divine purpose.
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No, I'm not thick-skulled. I, unlike you, have a brain.
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28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
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Re: Annulling homosexual marriages! We have victory in our sight! -
12-25-2008, 05:51 AM
This news couldn't have come at a better time. Who knows what unspeakable acts I would have committed with my secretary at the Christmas party this year after a few glasses of egg nog had the sanctity of marriage not been upheld by California law. When she pulled me into the coat closet last night during "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" and pulled her skirt up to expose a piece of mistletoe concealing her genitalia I was legally able to turn her down.
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