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Default Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-13-2009, 10:16 PM

Hello, Christians. I am Robert, and I am a Gothic.
Many of you Christians think that I'm an idiot because I'm calling myself a Gothic when you think that Gothic is an adjective. Well, it is, but it is also a term to describe someone who wears black, who has interests in things that you people think are Goth interests, and listens to music other than Goth music.

Goth and Gothic are completely different. To clear this up before I start the main conversation here, I will give you a brief description of both subcultures.

Goth-Listens to Goth music (ex. Siouxsie and The Banshees, Advent Sleep, XIII Stoleti), sometimes dresses in srange clothes, but it isn't necessary.

Goth-Dresses in unusuall dark/depressing clothing, listens to whatever music they like, has interests in dark subjects.


So, this isn't about Goths. This is about Gothics.


I am here to defind my brothers and sisters. Don't you dare pick at my words and find the most inconspicuous faults in what I say. I am here to teach, not be critisized.

Another thing that you may be thinking right now is, "This is a Christian site, you maggot! Why do you hate Jesus so, and why are you even here, when you obviously worship satan!?"

I do not hate Jesus, I don't even believe in him, nor Satan. I am here to teach, and this is the best way to get my message across to many Christians.




Do you think that Gothics are evil? Of course, but why? The Columbine shootings? Why do you base the whole of us on two people? Another thing that I'm wondering is why do you think that the shooters are Goth/ics? Do these people look Goth/ic?



Or do you think that anyone who causes mischief is Goth/ic?

Hardly any Gothics are what you think that they are. Most people who want Christians to die are black metalheads. Black Metal is a form of Heavy Metal that is mostly composed of people who dress in corpsepaint (clearing up the idea that Gothics paint their faces like clowns), and Satanists.

Sure, maybe 5% of Gothics hate Christians, but definetely not all of them. There IS a such thing as a Christian Gothic. Being a Christian is loving God, not dressing properly or completely hating Gothics. While you may not consider people like that to even be true Christians, they are still Christians.


Do you think that we are going to hell just because we dress in black? What is so Satanic about dressing out of the ordinary?

Another thing I've been hearing on a forum post about Goths is that God hates Goths. They also say this about Asians, Africans (or African Americans), and anyone who isn't white. Now, I'm not completely sure what the verse says, but I was baptists for the first 12 years of my life, and I know that somewhere in the bible, it says that God created everyone equal, and that we all are equal to each other. The rich and the poor, the Blacks and the Whites, the Asians and the Americans. So why do you Christians hate people other than your own kind?


Now, ramble among yourselves and others. I'm interested in seeing what "God's so-called people" think about other human beings.
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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-13-2009, 10:21 PM

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Goth and Gothic are completely different. To clear this up before I start the main conversation here, I will give you a brief description of both subcultures.

Goth-Listens to Goth music (ex. Siouxsie and The Banshees, Advent Sleep, XIII Stoleti), sometimes dresses in srange clothes, but it isn't necessary.

Goth-Dresses in unusuall dark/depressing clothing, listens to whatever music they like, has interests in dark subjects.

So, this isn't about Goths. This is about Gothics.
So, what's the difference?


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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-13-2009, 11:55 PM

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[…]I am here to defind my brothers and sisters. Don't you dare pick at my words and find the most inconspicuous faults in what I say.
I think you meant “defend” rather than “defined”. You see, you march in here and start laying down the law – you are a guest, remember that. That little mistake was done by Jesus to teach you politeness and humility - I hope you are now humble
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I am here to teach, not be critisized.
Oh, you are not humble... What are your qualifications? I doubt you have any. You are not here to teach unless you are about to reveal Mysteries of God or to give a learned theological opinion.
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Another thing that you may be thinking right now is, "This is a Christian site, you maggot!
… more or less what I said…
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I do not hate Jesus, I don't even believe in him, nor Satan.
All atheists are misguided, they have no moral compass.
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I am here to teach, and this is the best way to get my message across to many Christians.
Although teaching is the only way to get a message across, I have no idea why you think Christians need to be taught any more than anyone else.


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Hardly any Gothics are what you think that they are.
There are many threads and thousands of posts showing that Goths are exactly what we think they are. Eventually they all confess to being enemies of God - just like you with your abominable atheism.
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Do you think that we are going to hell just because we dress in black?
No, although that is a part of it. The main reason is unholy practices.
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Another thing I've been hearing on a forum post about Goths is that God hates Goths. They also say this about Asians, Africans (or African Americans), and anyone who isn't white.
You have already told us that you are an atheist, I cannot imagine how you know what God likes or does not like.
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Now, I'm not completely sure what the verse says, but I was baptists for the first 12 years of my life, and I know that somewhere in the bible, it says that God created everyone equal, and that we all are equal to each other.
OK, I give up, you find it. The world is divided into those who are True Christians™ and those who aren’t. Those who aren’t are Hellbound, those who are (us) are promised eternal life in Heaven.
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So why do you Christians hate people other than your own kind?
We quote God’s Word. If God says that you should obey every word of the Bible, then we do and we tell others they should. If they fail, God hates them (Luke:19:27) and will kill them.


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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-14-2009, 01:54 AM

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Hello, Christians. I am Robert
Hi, Bob.

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and I am a Gothic. Many of you Christians think that I'm an idiot because I'm calling myself a Gothic when you think that Gothic is an adjective.
Not at all. We don't think you're an idiot because you call yourself Gothic. We think you're a homosexual because you call yourself Gothic. We think you're an idiot for a completely different reason--because you are an idiot.

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Well, it is, but it is also a term to describe someone who wears black, who has interests in things that you people think are Goth interests, and listens to music other than Goth music.
Great. I can just imagine your resume: Interests: Satanism, Buggery, and Techno

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To clear this up before I start the main conversation here, I will give you a brief description of both subcultures.
Really, don't. We don't care. DO. NOT. CARE.

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Goth-Listens to Goth music (ex. Siouxsie and The Banshees, Advent Sleep, XIII Stoleti), sometimes dresses in srange clothes, but it isn't necessary.
Losers.

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Goth-Dresses in unusuall dark/depressing clothing, listens to whatever music they like, has interests in dark subjects.
Gay losers.

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Don't you dare pick at my words and find the most inconspicuous faults in what I say. I am here to teach, not be critisized.
So you think it's just fine to come in here and criticize us, but heaven forbid somebody should prick your precious ego? You started this girlfight, so put up your claws.

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Another thing that you may be thinking right now is, "This is a Christian site, you maggot! Why do you hate Jesus so, and why are you even here, when you obviously worship satan!?"
I'm impressed. You got it on the first try.

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I do not hate Jesus, I don't even believe in him, nor Satan.
As Jesus said, He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. Luke 11:23

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Do you think that Gothics are evil? Of course, but why?
Because you are evil, duh!

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The Columbine shootings? Why do you base the whole of us on two people?
Because if you've seen one pathetic, loser freak, you've seen them all.

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Another thing that I'm wondering is why do you think that the shooters are Goth/ics? Do these people look Goth/ic?

Yes.

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Or do you think that anyone who causes mischief is Goth/ic?
Not at all. Negroes, Jews, Hindus, Catholics, and non-Gothic gays also cause trouble. Not to mention the Muslims.

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Hardly any Gothics are what you think that they are. Most people who want Christians to die are black metalheads.
Yes, we know that negroes hate us, but thanks for the warning (BTW, it's not just the negro metal heads, it's pretty much the whole continent of Africa).

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There IS a such thing as a Christian Gothic. Being a Christian is loving God, not dressing properly or completely hating Gothics.
If you love God so much, why do you defile your bodies with those unbiblical clothes?

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While you may not consider people like that to even be true Christians, they are still Christians.
No Gothics are True Christians™, God's Only Real Christians.®

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Do you think that we are going to hell just because we dress in black?
You haven't turned your life over to Jesus. That's why you're going to Hell.

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What is so Satanic about dressing out of the ordinary?
The Bible contains a number of verses that pertain to how one dresses, such as 1 Timothy 2:9:

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array...

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Another thing I've been hearing on a forum post about Goths is that God hates Goths. They also say this about Asians, Africans (or African Americans), and anyone who isn't white.
You left out Mexicans. God obviously doesn't love them much, or He wouldn't have forced them to live in Mexico.

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I know that somewhere in the bible, it says that God created everyone equal, and that we all are equal to each other. The rich and the poor, the Blacks and the Whites, the Asians and the Americans.
That is just an out and out lie. The Bible does not say tht God created everyone equal. In fact, the only people God created were Adam, Eve, and Jesus. So don't go blaming the Lord for your problems, and stop lying about the Bible.

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So why do you Christians hate people other than your own kind?
Because you are going to go to Hell, and you're taking otherwise decent, honest, hard-working white people there with you.

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Now, ramble among yourselves and others.
Thank you, O Great One, for permission to post in our own forums.

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I'm interested in seeing what "God's so-called people" think about other human beings.
Unsaved unwelcome pretty much sums it up.



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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-16-2009, 11:31 AM

Hey Robert,
Dont care about what others think about you.. if somebody judges you because of your style: Just ignore him!
This people are anyway not worth of your attention.
Most people here also think that bisexual or homosexual people worship satan. "Gay" is used here as bad language to attack how stupid!
They simply all have no knowledge or experience about such things.. so they are scared and use groups like Goths as their scapegoat for their aggressions.
You cant explain them that they should think twice about their prejudices.

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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-16-2009, 10:16 PM

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So, what's the difference?
I accidently didn't add the "ic", is there a way to edit my post?
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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-16-2009, 10:26 PM

Sorry about my mess ups in the original post, I was trying to make it quick.


I don't suppose that there is a way to edit my post, is there?
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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-16-2009, 10:29 PM

No you can't edit your post. Spit it out, boy. What are you trying to say??


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[...] I was trying to make it quick.
A small lesson from the Internet - it doesn't matter how quickly you type, the reader still reads at the same rate - as Brother Nobar The Wise says, "What's your beef?"





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I accidently didn't add the "ic", is there a way to edit my post?
We added the "ic" in Gothic. So what is the difference between Goths and Gothics? One is partial to 12th-14th Century European architecture and the other likes a modern musical movement? What?



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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-17-2009, 07:03 AM

Maybe this Satan worshiper Goth will change his mind when Jesus throws him in hell and he is twisting on Satan's pitch fork begging Jesus for forgiveness but it will be to late. Worship God you might get into heaven. Worship Satan you WILL burn in HELL!



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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-17-2009, 07:40 AM

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Many of you Christians think that I'm an idiot because I'm calling myself a Gothic when you think that Gothic is an adjective. Well, it is, but it is also a term to describe someone who wears black, who has interests in things that you people think are Goth interests, and listens to music other than Goth music.

Goth and Gothic are completely different.
That is so true, and I personally am sick and tired of people getting Goths and Gothics mixed up. Goths have dark interests, wear black, and listen to Goth music. Gothics have dark interests, wear black, and listen to any kind of music.

I have dark interests, wear black, and I listen to goth music AND to non-goth music, so I am both a Goth and a Gothic.

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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-17-2009, 02:06 PM

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Now, I'm not completely sure what the verse says, but I was baptists for the first 12 years of my life, and I know that somewhere in the bible, it says that God created everyone equal, and that we all are equal to each other.
Perhaps you are thinking about the verse that says "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

Unfortunately, that's not in the Bible. That's in the Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson, a DIEST, and has no scriptural basis.

The Bible tells us that blacks are to be subservient to whites (Gen 9:20-27) and that women are to be subservient to men (1Cor 11:3).

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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-17-2009, 06:56 PM

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Maybe this Satan worshiper Goth will change his mind when Jesus throws him in hell and he is twisting on Satan's pitch fork begging Jesus for forgiveness but it will be to late. Worship God you might get into heaven. Worship Satan you WILL burn in HELL!
I will never change my mind on anything! If satan is real, and that's a big "if", because I think that the idea is ridiculous, I'd rather be with anyone besides people who hate everyone except for their own!


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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-17-2009, 06:59 PM

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I will never change my mind on anything! If satan is real, and that's a big "if", because I think that the idea is ridiculous, I'd rather be with anyone besides people who hate everyone except for their own!
A bit silly really, at least God loves one or two people - can you imagine satan loving anyone?





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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-17-2009, 07:12 PM

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I will never change my mind on anything!
I doubt that. That would mean that you can't learn anything from any source. It means you cannot engage in intellectual conversation. It means that your mind is stuck in quicksand. It means that you are retarded.


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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-17-2009, 08:36 PM

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I doubt that. That would mean that you can't learn anything from any source. It means you cannot engage in intellectual conversation. It means that your mind is stuck in quicksand. It means that you are retarded.
I guess I didn't word that right.


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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-17-2009, 08:39 PM

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That is so true, and I personally am sick and tired of people getting Goths and Gothics mixed up. Goths have dark interests, wear black, and listen to Goth music. Gothics have dark interests, wear black, and listen to any kind of music.

I have dark interests, wear black, and I listen to goth music AND to non-goth music, so I am both a Goth and a Gothic.


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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-18-2009, 04:44 AM

Do you carry a bible for the aesthetics, too?


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Default Re: Gothics are NOT bad! - 01-18-2009, 03:12 PM

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Do you carry a bible for the aesthetics, too?
No, I don't carry books around just for good looks. But you can actually wear a cross. You can't wear a bible around your neck, that would look a bit strange.

Wait, I think I know what your reply will be: "You already look strange enough! Why would it make a difference?"


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