[yingtang]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

All of those questions have been answered already. Stop wasting our bandwidth boy.

Where I havent seen them . Point them out to me . directly no bull. stay here and reply. so me the scripture of leaving my nigress future wive.

have you brought her a ring yet

I wish so badly i did. I work fixing computers. After a couple of months work I will. I love her so much. Do you have a wife?

[yingtang]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

"Jesus does not hate anyone." We hear that lie so often, it sickens me.

It's just not true. God hates the sin AND the sinner, and Jesus is God (John 10:30 I and my Father are one.).



Please read the WHOLE Bible before it's too late.

Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this:

In the Old Testament, it says that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5).

In the New Testament, what does Jesus say that he is going to do to these workers of iniquity? Is he going to love them? Is he going to be their pal, and tell them that it's ok to be themselves? Let's see...



I pray that you have found this enlightening.

I missed this post please dont think i am ignoring this. I agree the god of the old testament hates sinners. The god of the new testament hates sin but lovers sinners. He gave his son for them. Is this wrong? But yet this dosn't explain racism or why i should leave my beautiful woman. Scripture please?

I like the timeout up to 600s. And I am sorry you consider me a vain repeater. I didn't see this thread. But I havent seen something from the bible tell me to leave my black girlfriend. Have you?

[Dpn]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

"
Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this

As long as we are on the topic OT let me bring up a point that will make alot of the backing of your arguement quite useless.

There is no mention of Hell in the Old Testament.....none at all,closest mention to it is straying from the path of god.

In fact Hell was not created until a couple hundred years ago when a playwriter made a play about the 7 deadly sins,in which he described them with images depicting violence and fires and brimstone on stage (Hell),after the plays great success and popularity (even though it was a satire if i remember correctly), Hell was put into the bible (NT) to gather more members of the church and scare those who join from leaving.

So,if all that is correct,which it is historically accurate, then there is no punishment for marriage to a black woman,or for that matter, anything.

[yingtang]

Originally Posted by Dpn840

As long as we are on the topic OT let me bring up a point that will make alot of the backing of your arguement quite useless.

There is no mention of Hell in the Old Testament.....none at all,closest mention to it is straying from the path of god.

In fact Hell was not created until a couple hundred years ago when a playwriter made a play about the 7 deadly sins,in which he described them with images depicting violence and fires and brimstone on stage (Hell),after the plays great success and popularity (even though it was a satire if i remember correctly), Hell was put into the bible (NT) to gather more members of the church and scare those who join from leaving.

So,if all that is correct,which it is historically accurate, then there is no punishment for marriage to a black woman,or for that matter, anything.

I have the book Dauntes inferno. I can not verify this but i will say i have heard no scripture justifying blatant racism and leaving a black woman from you all witch you claim to have. I am not directly afraid of punishment for not leaving her. Curious as to why i should leave her. Though to be honest I wont leave her. But i know you have no scripture to justify it anyway. Your senior theologian gave false scripture in the beginning. I busted that out. Try again please? this is fun.

[Dpn]

Btw Yang, do you have AIM?

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Originally Posted by Dpn840

There is no mention of Hell in the Old Testament.....none at all,closest mention to it is straying from the path of god.

Dpn840 proven wrong. Sorry, bud.

2 Samuel 22:6 - The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;

Deut. 32:22 - For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

Job 11:8 - It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know?

Job 26:6 - Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.
Psalm 9:17 - The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Psalm 16:10 - For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Psalm 18:5 - The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.

Psalm 55:15 - Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Psalm 86:13 - For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.

Psalm 116:3 - The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of hell gat hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow.

Psalm 139:8 - If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

Proverbs 5:5 - Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

Proverbs 7:27- Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.

Proverbs 9:18 - But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.

Proverbs 15:11 - Hell and destruction are before the Lord: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?

Proverbs 15:24 - The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Proverbs 23:14 - Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Proverbs 27:20 - Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.

Isaiah 5:14 - Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Isaiah 14:9 - Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

Isaiah 28:15 - Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Isaiah 28:18 - And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Ezekiel 31:15-17 - Thus saith the Lord God; in the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him. 16I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth. 17They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.

Ezekiel 32:21 - The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword.

Ezekiel 32:27 - And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.

Amos 9:2 - Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:

Jonah 2:2 - And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

Habakkuk 2:5 - Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:

[yingtang]

Originally Posted by Dpn840

Btw Yang, do you have AIM?

yang925goes and i also have a 1 post per 10 minute ban setup making it harder and harder to hit back. New Account if need to.

Instresting overview of there beliefs:
what got me started:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/beliefs.html

Amazing Hatefull article. Calls 14 year daughter a whore throws her by hair in to basement:
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/2008/.../twilight.html

Racism at its finest:
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/2009/...nswineflu.html

Take your pick that hate women to:
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0500/femsoul.html

This is not a church . I thought it was a joke . they are serous. there is no logic here. i have fun rebuking them all day. its funny. but if you want to hear anything about a god dont start hear. Im somewhat like you i dont know what to believe but i have been to a church and this isnt it.

[John Bois Ward]

Originally Posted by Dpn840

As long as we are on the topic OT let me bring up a point that will make alot of the backing of your arguement quite useless.

There is no mention of Hell in the Old Testament.....none at all,closest mention to it is straying from the path of god.

In fact Hell was not created until a couple hundred years ago when a playwriter made a play about the 7 deadly sins,in which he described them with images depicting violence and fires and brimstone on stage (Hell),after the plays great success and popularity (even though it was a satire if i remember correctly), Hell was put into the bible (NT) to gather more members of the church and scare those who join from leaving.

So,if all that is correct,which it is historically accurate, then there is no punishment for marriage to a black woman,or for that matter, anything.

Care to provide any intelligent evidence to support your post? I'm sure you can't, so let me respond:

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

And where can Matthew be located? In some of the oldest complete NT manuscipts found so far: Codex Sinaiticus (4th Century) and Codex Alexandrinus (5th Century) http://www.csntm.org/Manuscripts.aspx.

Not only did Jesus speak of Hell in Matthew, Hell was also referred to in a couple of obscure books well over two hundred years ago: Divine Comedy (14th Century) and Paradise Lost (17th Century).

[yingtang]

I think he means that there was originally no reference to hell in the old testament. Pointless to argue that here because its un provable . I concede that point. But still demand scripture that says i should leave my black girlfriend. you seem to be good at using a search the bible tool for word's like hell and 'death' try racism and black girls see what results you get. Im so busy posting back here i havent posted back on the other yet. but lets put this on digg. stumble upon. lets draw them some attension. see how many believers they get. this a cult that uses the name baptists and jesus to gain followers. Yet they preach racism and hate through twisting the scriptures. Were is that scripture about that black girl thing??

Dont ignore me all of you. Next Divine comedy = Dauntes Inferno. Its a joke written by daunte completly made up.

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Originally Posted by yingtang

I think he means that there was originally no reference to hell in the old testament. Pointless to argue that here because its un provable.......Dont ignore me all of you. Next Divine comedy = Dauntes Inferno. Its a joke written by daunte completly made up.

Do you not read?I POSTED DOZENS OF REFERENCES TO HELL IN THE OLD TESTAMENT! It doesn't get any clearer than that.

DANTE, DANTE, DANTE! Also, CompletEly. Stop ignoring me and stop ignoring proper spelling of the English language. It makes your already worthless arguments even more worthless.

[Dpn]

Originally Posted by John Bois Ward

Care to provide any intelligent evidence to support your post? I'm sure you can't, so let me respond:

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

And where can Matthew be located? In some of the oldest complete NT manuscipts found so far: Codex Sinaiticus (4th Century) and Codex Alexandrinus (5th Century) http://www.csntm.org/Manuscripts.aspx.

Not only did Jesus speak of Hell in Matthew, Hell was also referred to in a couple of obscure books well over two hundred years ago: Divine Comedy (14th Century) and Paradise Lost (17th Century).

Whether you like it or not,the bible is subject to interpretation,its not a stretch to say that the statement "thou fool,shall be in danger of hell fire" is scorn from the council

[Dpn]

Originally Posted by MP Helmholtz

Dpn840 proven wrong. Sorry, bud.

2 Samuel 22:6 - The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;

Deut. 32:22 - For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

Job 11:8 - It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know?

Job 26:6 - Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.
Psalm 9:17 - The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Psalm 16:10 - For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Psalm 18:5 - The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.

Psalm 55:15 - Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Psalm 86:13 - For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.

Psalm 116:3 - The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of hell gat hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow.

Psalm 139:8 - If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

Proverbs 5:5 - Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

Proverbs 7:27- Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.

Proverbs 9:18 - But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.

Proverbs 15:11 - Hell and destruction are before the Lord: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?

Proverbs 15:24 - The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Proverbs 23:14 - Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Proverbs 27:20 - Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.

Isaiah 5:14 - Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Isaiah 14:9 - Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

Isaiah 28:15 - Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Isaiah 28:18 - And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Ezekiel 31:15-17 - Thus saith the Lord God; in the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him. 16I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth. 17They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.

Ezekiel 32:21 - The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword.

Ezekiel 32:27 - And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.

Amos 9:2 - Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:

Jonah 2:2 - And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

Habakkuk 2:5 - Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:

Ever heard of a Revision? It happens alot,especially in religion.

[Dpn]

Originally Posted by John Bois Ward

Care to provide any intelligent evidence to support your post? I'm sure you can't, so let me respond:

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

And where can Matthew be located? In some of the oldest complete NT manuscipts found so far: Codex Sinaiticus (4th Century) and Codex Alexandrinus (5th Century) http://www.csntm.org/Manuscripts.aspx.

Not only did Jesus speak of Hell in Matthew, Hell was also referred to in a couple of obscure books well over two hundred years ago: Divine Comedy (14th Century) and Paradise Lost (17th Century).

AH yes the Divine Comedy,that was the play i was referencing, it was a satire(making fun of religion and was also FICTION)which supports INTELLEGENT EVIDENCE to my posts. Right after that they started revising OT with hell and putting Hell in NT.

[Dpn]

Here is another quick spoute of knowledge,this again,is regarding the color of peoples skin. If you want to quote your southern bible with references to white being better then everyone else and such,then take a quick moment and think about Jesus...Do you have a picture of what he looks like in your head? Good,now,what color skin does he have? Is it white? If you answer yes then your are wrong, given where he is from,it is 100% impossible to have been white. What you see in paintings of Jesus is what is known as artist depictions,from mortal men,who by the way, NEVER SAW JESUS....EVER. The earliest paintings of Jesus happen way after his death,around 300 A.D.

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Originally Posted by Dpn840

Ever heard of a Revision? It happens alot,especially in religion.

How is it a REVISION? The OT was written centuries before Christ! Please show me where the OT quotes I gave you were revised, then I will concede you are right.

[Mad Prophet Helmholtz]

Originally Posted by Dpn840

Here is another quick spoute of knowledge,this again,is regarding the color of peoples skin. If you want to quote your southern bible with references to white being better then everyone else and such,then take a quick moment and think about Jesus...Do you have a picture of what he looks like in your head? Good,now,what color skin does he have? Is it white? If you answer yes then your are wrong, given where he is from,it is 100% impossible to have been white. What you see in paintings of Jesus is what is known as artist depictions,from mortal men,who by the way, NEVER SAW JESUS....EVER. The earliest paintings of Jesus happen way after his death,around 300 A.D.

Jesus is a white guy. I have seen his face myself when he visited me in 1974, therefore I have my own eyes to attest to this. HAVE YOU SEEN JESUS? No, you haven't. Therefore you don't know his race. Are you trying to tell me my own eyes lied to me? That it was an optical illusion? That Astronaut Jesus was in reality a Zulu African but appeared to me as a Nordic White Person?

And besides, go to Israel. What do you see there? WHITE PEOPLE. So why do you not think Jesus was white?

Why are you being racist?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Dpn

Here is another quick spoute of knowledge,this again,is regarding the color of peoples skin. If you want to quote your southern bible with references to white being better then everyone else and such,then take a quick moment and think about Jesus...Do you have a picture of what he looks like in your head? Good,now,what color skin does he have? Is it white? If you answer yes then your are wrong, given where he is from,it is 100% impossible to have been white. What you see in paintings of Jesus is what is known as artist depictions,from mortal men,who by the way, NEVER SAW JESUS....EVER. The earliest paintings of Jesus happen way after his death,around 300 A.D.

You are being very insulting and hateful boy. I suggest you adopt a more respectful tone if you want to enjoy the privilege of posting on our Christian forum.

There is no such thing as "your southern bible." We follow the one True Word of God, the King James 1611 Authorized Version. All others are false. For more information on how to tell false Bib;es from the True one, take a look at THIS.

As for the complexion of our Lord and Savior, isn't it obvious that is as blonde-haired and blue-eyed as I am? His father is God after all. What have you got against White people anyway? Why don't you look around other threads and see if your questions have already been answered.

[Don the Baptist]

Originally Posted by Dpn

There is no mention of Hell in the Old Testament

Proverbs 1.26 shows a close equivalent. Actually, the word hell did not exist during OT times, after all English has only been in existence since about 1607 (God sent it specifically for the KJV bible to be written). Proverbs 1.26 shows the loving mercy of God towards miserable sinners like yourself:

Proverbs 1.26 - I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh.

See that? "Laugh at your calamity". That is what God will do, why should we extend less of a courtesy to you?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Hell in the Old Testament.


Next.

[yingtang]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Hell in the Old Testament.


Next.

Dont care about hell
Where is scripture that says dont marry black women?