[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Let's not muck about with trans-substantiation. Let's get right down to brass tacks and go for the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

And be careful not to believe that ALL priests are rapists. It's an untrue stereotype.

I'm sure that not all of them are, but why does the Catholic institution go to such great lengths to shield the many who are?

[Cbeck29]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

So what would you call the pope if you met him? Would you follow your catholic doctrine or the words of Jesus?

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

YIC

Jack

Dafaq? What do you call your mother's husband? I call mine father. That verse might be a little out of context.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Dafaq? What do you call your mother's husband? I call mine father. That verse might be a little out of context.

Dad

I am a True Christian

(to whom is the verse aimed at if it isn't clergy!)

Jack

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Dafaq? What do you call your mother's husband? I call mine father. That verse might be a little out of context.

So what's your take on the Immaculate Conception?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Dafaq? What do you call your mother's husband? I call mine father. That verse might be a little out of context.

Then please explain to us what it means in context.

[Cbeck29]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Surely as a "true Christian" you must be familiar with Ephesians 6:2. To which father might that be referring? And if the answer is God, then why is our mother, a normal person, grouped with the divine? Your argument= in the

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

blah

Was Mary born from an immaculate conception or not? There seems to have been some uncertainty until 1854 when suddenly a man decided that Mary was indeed immaculately conceived and free of sin.

I'm wondering where you stand on this.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Then please explain to us what it means in context.

Well?

Surely as a "true Christian" you must be familiar with Ephesians 6:2. To which father might that be referring? And if the answer is God, then why is our mother, a normal person, grouped with the divine? Your argument= in the

I know that you Catholics don't take the Bible seriously, but we do, and we don't appreciate it when people like you twist it to make it sound internally contradictory, something that God's Word just cannot be.

[Cbeck29]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Although the immaculate conception was only proclaimed dogmatic in 1854, visions of Mary herself appeared to the likes of St. Bernadette and St. Catherine Laboure and spoke of her own immaculate conception. This doctrine had been passed down through catholic tradition before it was declared a church dogma. However, I'm not sure why you are even asking me where I stand on this issue. We all know that you won't change my mind about my religion, and also, you won't listen to a word I have to say. In your minds, the lives of saints, and the words of Mary herself have no credibility. So that's where I stand.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Was Mary born from an immaculate conception or not? There seems to have been some uncertainty until 1854 when suddenly a man decided that Mary was indeed immaculately conceived and free of sin.

I'm wondering where you stand on this.

Or the Assumption of Mary. If you asked a catholic in 1949 it didn't happen. If you ask the same catholic in 1951 it did.

Jack

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Although the immaculate conception was only proclaimed dogmatic in 1854, visions of Mary herself appeared to the likes of St. Bernadette and St. Catherine Laboure and spoke of her own immaculate conception. This doctrine had been passed down through catholic tradition before it was declared a church dogma. However, I'm not sure why you are even asking me where I stand on this issue. We all know that you won't change my mind about my religion, and also, you won't listen to a word I have to say. In your minds, the lives of saints, and the words of Mary herself have no credibility. So that's where I stand.

What does that prove? People have claimed to have had visions of Shiva, Allah, or various other deities and to have received revelations from those deities. Do you believe those as well?

[Cbeck29]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

St. Gregory wrote about the Assumption in the 6th century. St. John Damscene wrote about it in the 8th. By the 13th century, most Catholics accepted the belief of the Assumption. It was recently made dogmatic, but again, Catholic Tradition often comes before the penning of Catholic dogma.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Catholics worship Jesus. The same one you do. Not the pope. can't any of you understand or have the decency to even google catholicism's god?

What, Mary?

I know, "We don't worship Mary. We just make statues of her, and light candles to her, and pray to her. But we don't worship her."

Tell me, since you Catholics worship Mary as the eternal virgin, how do you explain Jesus having brothers?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians

Although the immaculate conception was only proclaimed dogmatic in 1854, visions of Mary herself appeared to the likes of St. Bernadette and St. Catherine Laboure and spoke of her own immaculate conception. This doctrine had been passed down through catholic tradition before it was declared a church dogma. However, I'm not sure why you are even asking me where I stand on this issue. We all know that you won't change my mind about my religion, and also, you won't listen to a word I have to say. In your minds, the lives of saints, and the words of Mary herself have no credibility. So that's where I stand.

Oh really!

So hearsay evidence trumps true and infallible scripture? Suddenly a woman who never made such claim and Jesus pretty much dismissed out of hand has a magic get out of sin free card because a deluded young girl sees something she can't explain in a French (of all places) city? And the tourist industry so-generated persists until this day.



Wow! Jesus and God figure so highly.

Why not admit that there was a corrupt industry of indulgences and relics and so-called miracles that was very lucrative for the Catholics that's at a far remove from our transparent and honest tithing system?