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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-21-2008, 11:56 PM

"Seed" is not a human being. It's half of a human being (after a sperm's 23 chromosomes are matched with a the 23 chromosomes in an egg) therefore not murder. If it is murder, I have a higher bodycount that Hitler, Ghengis Khan, Mussilini, the black plague, and AIDS combined!!!
And I will NEVER stop!!!!!
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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-22-2008, 12:05 AM

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"Seed" is not a human being. It's half of a human being (after a sperm's 23 chromosomes are matched with a the 23 chromosomes in an egg) therefore not murder. If it is murder, I have a higher bodycount that Hitler, Ghengis Khan, Mussilini, the black plague, and AIDS combined!!!
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#1) Where are these "chromersomes" mentioned in the Holy Bible?

#2) When you find yourself up to your ears in scalding hot sulfur, please remember all the souls you slaughtered.

Enjoy hell, pervert. The Bible tells us to have nothing to do with scum like you.

1Cor:9-11
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.


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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-22-2008, 12:11 AM

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"Seed" is not a human being. It's half of a human being (after a sperm's 23 chromosomes are matched with a the 23 chromosomes in an egg) therefore not murder. If it is murder, I have a higher bodycount that Hitler, Ghengis Khan, Mussilini, the black plague, and AIDS combined!!!
And I will NEVER stop!!!!!
What do "chromosomes" have to do with this? We are talking about souls not physical bodies. The thing that makes a human that special creation of God and not another animal. The question is when does the soul come into the body. It is clear the Bible says it is with seed.

This is very important; the soul only gets one shot at life. There is none of this reincarnation nonsense. That's is just a ludicrous myth. If the soul doesn't get to the point it can stand up in church and tell Jesus it loves Him then that soul is going to hell for eternal punishment. Needless to say if that soul's body ends up on a sock or a Kleenex it an't going to go to church.



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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-22-2008, 12:13 AM

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#1) Where are these "chromersomes" mentioned in the Holy Bible?

#2) When you find yourself up to your ears in scalding hot sulfur, please remember all the souls you slaughtered.

Enjoy hell, pervert. The Bible tells us to have nothing to do with scum like you.

1Cor:9-11
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
Just a FYI that passage mentions fornicators not masturbators. Masturbation is never specifically outlawed in the Bible, only looseness and wantonness which masturbation can be put under if impure thoughts are used to aid the process. Inherently therefore there is nothing wrong with maturbation - if no seed is being killed, ie in the case of a woman.

The seed question is another interesting question, as we have stated, God has pre-ordained which seeds are successful, one out of million is successful. If you ever lay with your wife, you damn millions to hell. So if you masturbate, you are just getting rid of more and more hell-bound duds, right?
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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-22-2008, 06:18 AM

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Just a FYI that passage mentions fornicators not masturbators. Masturbation is never specifically outlawed in the Bible,
Matthew 5:27-28
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


So, yes it has been specifically outlawed in the bible.

And to answer your arguments that I'm sure will come next....

Looking at a man and lusting is much worse and you will find scripture all over the website to support that

As for the women masturbating/lusting/looketh/whatever, who cares? they are Satans Tools anyway and it is too be expected


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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-22-2008, 12:50 PM

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Just a FYI that passage mentions fornicators not masturbators. Masturbation is never specifically outlawed in the Bible, only looseness and wantonness which masturbation can be put under if impure thoughts are used to aid the process. Inherently therefore there is nothing wrong with maturbation - if no seed is being killed, ie in the case of a woman.

The seed question is another interesting question, as we have stated, God has pre-ordained which seeds are successful, one out of million is successful. If you ever lay with your wife, you damn millions to hell. So if you masturbate, you are just getting rid of more and more hell-bound duds, right?
No, when you are abusing yourself you going against the process as God decreed and damning that one out of million that was meant for your' wife. God wants in free will after all.



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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-22-2008, 01:23 PM

Mac-daddy my hypothesis was that masturbation might not be inherently evil, it is just used evilly by thinking of sinful things, like women. So masturbation is therefore not outlawed by that bible verse.

And Billy joe, although I was reluctant to get on to seed - again, God gave us the ability to masturbate and didn't outlaw it directly in his book, so i don't see how you can call it abusing ourselves and going against his purpose. It would be like saying back scratching is outlawed because it is "lascivious".

Does it say every seed must be released in sexual intercourse? No.. but we agree that every seed that is successful is chosen by God to be successful over the others, ones that get released in masturbation are therefore all duds and always were going to be.

And as for Women - have we agreed they can masturbate (without sin) in this thread now? Since they release no seed?

Not that I've ever masturbated here people - I am just trying to philosophise God position on it.
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And Billy joe, although I was reluctant to get on to seed - again, God gave us the ability to masturbate and didn't outlaw it directly in his book, so i don't see how you can call it abusing ourselves and going against his purpose. It would be like saying back scratching is outlawed because it is "lascivious".

Does it say every seed must be released in sexual intercourse? No.. but we agree that every seed that is successful is chosen by God to be successful over the others, ones that get released in masturbation are therefore all duds and always were going to be.
The seed chosen by God is the key point. Not the seed chosen by man while he is madly servicing himself in his disgusting depravity. God gets to chose who lives and dies, who is saved and damned, not you and not me. He didn’t outlaw masturbation out right because He gave us a brain. There is an underlying logic here’ sodomy bad, bestiality bad and not reproductive sex in general is bad. Why? Seed murder. So the same goes for masturbation.

Remember God struck Onan deed for attempted birth control?

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And as for Women - have we agreed they can masturbate (without sin) in this thread now? Since they release no seed?
No! As MacDaddy pointed out female masturbation is still a sin in the mind and God counts those.

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again, God gave us the ability to masturbate and didn't outlaw it directly in his book, so i don't see how you can call it abusing ourselves and going against his purpose.
God gave us the ability to perform abortions.

God gave us the ability to eat other humans.

God gave us the ability to build vast gas chambers to execute Jews by the millions.

God did not "outlaw directly" any of these things in His book. Does that make them OK, and in accordance with His will?
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I would certainly HOPE you'd never masturbated here! This is not that kind of a site!
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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-30-2008, 01:52 PM

I have just been reading through this thread, and wanted to pose a question, as i was curious to your opinions, my question is, if masturbation is sinful because it is considered as spilling of the seed, or the loss of souls, what is it considered when a normal adult male experiences a nocturnal emission, by no fault of his own doing. As the human body was created by god, and it is a normal bodily function?

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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-30-2008, 02:07 PM

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I have just been reading through this thread, and wanted to pose a question, as i was curious to your opinions, my question is, if masturbation is sinful because it is considered as spilling of the seed, or the loss of souls, what is it considered when a normal adult male experiences a nocturnal emission, by no fault of his own doing. As the human body was created by god, and it is a normal bodily function?

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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-30-2008, 03:38 PM

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I did a search, but was unable to find it, could you please link me?
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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-30-2008, 03:50 PM

i will masturbate rite now.
and all and each one of you can pray for me... and the countless souls that are going to be spilled soon.
after that all is forgiven.

hope the cycle can continue.
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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-30-2008, 04:35 PM

Just an update
The deed is done!

so each and everyone one of you true Christians, please pray for me... and the countless souls i have butchered.
I must say for being the cold blooded murderer that i am, i do not have any guilty feelings to have commited such hanus crime.
Perhaps this is the "light" for me.
but this cant be...
I want to see the true light, and want to be a true christian.

HOW can i do this? What must i DO?
is there such thing as Redemption for me?
is there a place in heaven for me... will i see those souls i have butchered?
Will they then embrace me? (well if they dont, will just have to butcher more and more so that eventually heaven get so clogged up!!)

Please help. i am in need of a lot of HELP.
I enjoy it too much, please pray for me, o Holy brothers and sisters...
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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-30-2008, 04:43 PM

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Just an update
The deed is done!

so each and everyone one of you true Christians, please pray for me... and the countless souls i have butchered.
I must say for being the cold blooded murderer that i am, i do not have any guilty feelings to have commited such hanus crime.
Perhaps this is the "light" for me.
but this cant be...
I want to see the true light, and want to be a true christian.

HOW can i do this? What must i DO?
is there such thing as Redemption for me?
is there a place in heaven for me... will i see those souls i have butchered?
Will they then embrace me? (well if they dont, will just have to butcher more and more so that eventually heaven get so clogged up!!)

Please help. i am in need of a lot of HELP.
I enjoy it too much, please pray for me, o Holy brothers and sisters...
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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-31-2008, 12:47 AM

I think you are in the wrong forum. Try the "Backdoor" threads and seek help!


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Default Re: Please Pray for Chronic Masturbators - 01-31-2008, 10:31 PM

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The seed chosen by God is the key point. Not the seed chosen by man while he is madly servicing himself in his disgusting depravity. God gets to chose who lives and dies, who is saved and damned, not you and not me. He didn’t outlaw masturbation out right because He gave us a brain. There is an underlying logic here’ sodomy bad, bestiality bad and not reproductive sex in general is bad. Why? Seed murder. So the same goes for masturbation.
But the masturbator isn't choosing, the world is preordained, the seed is already chosen.

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No! As MacDaddy pointed out female masturbation is still a sin in the mind and God counts those.
No! MacDaddy failed to show this, he against brought up sexual wantoness and impure thoughts and all that is outlawed in the bible. Masturbation is not. Think pure thoughts, you are doing nothing wrong, inherently.

And JennyD - God outlaws those things in his book directly.

Apart from cannibalism..: Leviticus 26:29 "And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat."

I'm confused over that one.
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But the masturbator isn't choosing, the world is preordained, the seed is already chosen.
TRUE Christians believe in personal responsibility. The mastubator should take ownership of his sinful nature that God created him with and stop blaming others.



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