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Default Re: Is Depression A Sin? - 09-17-2017, 02:48 AM

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Of course I'm denying science! Have you even read The Bible? You mention those who come to Jesus, how they will be given rest. Now what about those who DON'T come to Jesus?

Check this out:

II Thessalonians 2:1-2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Secular "science" holds depression to be some species of shaken mind or a variety of trouble. In Christ, as many posts with full Scripture included have shown you, that is impossible. Persons with shaken minds do not know Jesus which means that they're fully envenomed with sin. Unregenerate. Operating at maximum pressure on a railway line leading to everlasting torture. God says it. Christians believe it. That settles it.

I was concerned that you were so eager to include context for the quoted passage and yet did not understand the very straightforward meaning of what you posted. In the post you were critiquing much fuller context was available; did you not read that? I'm looking at it now. It covers quite a lot of ground from (I'm scrolling up now) Genesis 1 to (..and scrolling down from Thessalonians) Revelation 22 so you could read all the material from Paul if you wanted to. Yes, even the section you chose was included.

I'm still waiting for your Scripture reference about pagan tattoos and since you're pretty hot on the topic of context I'm eager to learn if I'm mistaken about that. Did you not see my post in the Manson thread? Maybe you are visually impaired? I can help there.



I try to pay attention when reading The Bible and remember cross references as well as I can. But it's quite possible that I've missed something and always welcome a link to further what understanding I do have. The Bible is very explicit: devils suffer from SHAKEN minds. They TREMBLE both in spirit and in the words they promote to lead the unwary, or the wilfully disobedient, astray. The two passages fit very well together indeed and I appreciate this cross reference which I hadn't noticed before. So if you could just provide the reference for pagan tattoos, that'd be great.
The bible says not to put any marks on our skin for the dead (cuts/tattoos.)
Also everyone has sinned except Jesus and you are no different. Everyone who asks for forgiveness from there sins will be saved. You cant tell people that they are not going to be saved or that they are going to hell
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Default Re: Is Depression A Sin? - 09-17-2017, 04:59 AM

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...God commands us not to judge

Matthew 7:1 -
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.
Not if you can read-a the English.


The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)


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Default Re: Is Depression A Sin? - 09-17-2017, 09:05 AM

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Also everyone has sinned except Jesus and you are no different.
True Christians don't sin.

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Everyone who asks for forgiveness from there sins will be saved.
Not true.

Mk 3:28-29
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
See also Mt 12:31-32.

1 Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

Mt 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

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You cant tell people that they are not going to be saved or that they are going to hell
The church has the power to do exactly that.

Mt 18:17-20
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.


Jn 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.


Mt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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Default Re: Is Depression A Sin? - 09-17-2017, 03:05 PM

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The bible says not to put any marks on our skin for the dead (cuts/tattoos.)
Also everyone has sinned except Jesus and you are no different. Everyone who asks for forgiveness from there sins will be saved. You cant tell people that they are not going to be saved or that they are going to hell
Context is always beneficial when reading God's Inerrant Word because He has given us a very important message and we need to understand it. That's not difficult, but reading the complete section is necessary as you've already pointed out.

For example if I asked you for something to eat, a sandwich maybe, but you stopped listening at "Could you get me a sandwich please.." and brought me maple glazed walnut salad causing convulsions or asphyxia because I was allergic to maple trees that would be awful. In that case you should have waited for the rest of my sentence: "..but nothing with maple products; I'm allergic to the stuff!" Disregarding instructions from God has much more severe consequences that mere convulsions, that's why His message is so important.
LEVITICUS 19 . KJV . look up
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Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

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28b ..nor print any marks upon you:









Next, simply by reading God's message, we need to understand what "print" means. Silkscreen? Woodcut? Tattoo? Does it include penetrating the skin? Is it more like a rubber stamp or stencil? Here we have the example of Jesus, of what happened to Him.
JOHN 20 . KJV . look up
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At evening..when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

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28b ..put my finger into the print of the nails

The print of the nails is something you could put your finger into. Just like the hole in His side where the spear jabbed with sufficient force to rupture His heart. Yes, no elucidation is necessary here. We all know what marks are being referred to and whether printed with a red hot needle, a laser beam or even a chiseled-out potato all such wickedness must be rejected by all Christians. That's what's meant by "any" and that's what's meant by "print" and these days I should point out that branding would also qualify because branding also pierces the skin even as Jesus was pierced when He bled out for me to make me perfect.

Neglecting God's commandment in this matter is tantamount to neglecting every aspect of His Just Law, another aspect of which follows on immediately. And guess what sorts of people get inked or branded to stand out on the street corner? Are you advocating that too?
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