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Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 04:08 AM
Yet another country has fallen for the gay menace, expect gay rape to increase by 120% during coming months in Scotland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-25960225
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Scotland's same-sex marriage bill is passed
A bill which allows same-sex weddings to take place in Scotland has been passed by MSPs in the Scottish Parliament.
MSPs voted by 105 to 18 in favour of the Marriage and Civil Partnership (Scotland) Bill.
The Scottish government said the move was the right thing to do but Scotland's two main churches were opposed to it.
The first gay and lesbian weddings could take place this autumn.
Religious and belief bodies can "opt in" to perform same-sex marriages.
Ministers said no part of the religious community would be forced to hold such ceremonies in churches.
During a debate at Holyrood, MSPs rejected amendments which were said to provide "protection" for groups and individuals opposed to same-sex marriage.
The SNP's John Mason tabled an amendment stating that no-one could be "compelled by any means" to solemnise gay marriage, including by a contract or a legal requirement.
Mr Mason said that this was similar to a measure included in the bill passed by the UK Parliament allowing same-sex marriage in England and Wales.
Health Secretary Alex Neil insisted there were "robust protections for religious bodies and celebrants" in the bill and the amendment was unnecessary.
Mr Mason tabled further amendments, including one calling for recognition that "a belief in marriage as a voluntary union between one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others for life is a belief worthy of respect in a democratic society".
He said: "This has been the prevailing view in Scotland for centuries, and may now be considered a minority view or even old fashioned, but it is an integral tenet of faith for many Christians, Muslims and others as well as the belief of many of no faith position at all."
Mr Mason added: "We have seen volunteers in the third sector removed from the board for publicly supporting traditional marriage."
The first same-sex weddings in England and Wales will take place from 29 March, in the wake of legislation already passed by the Westminster parliament.
In Scotland, same-sex couples currently have the option to enter into civil partnerships, but SNP ministers brought forward their Marriage and Civil Partnership Bill, saying the move was an important step for equality.
MSPs were allowed a free vote, rather than along party lines.
'Not far enough'
Mr Neil said passing the bill meant "a historic day in the history of the Scottish Parliament", which received the front-bench backing of Labour's Jackie Baillie and Conservative Jackson Carlaw.
Gay rights organisations, including the Equality Network and Stonewall Scotland, and a range of other groups, have supported the legislation.
But the Scottish Catholic Church and Church of Scotland oppose the move, and have said they have no plans to conduct same-sex marriages.
And the campaign group Scotland for Marriage said the safeguards in the bill did not go far enough.
Key measures in the Scottish government's bill include:
Religious and belief bodies opt in to perform same-sex marriage.
Civil marriage ceremonies can take place anywhere agreed by the registrar and the couple, other than religious premises.
Celebrants who are part of an organisation which has not opted in would not be allowed to conduct same-sex marriages.
Individual celebrants who felt it would go against their faith to carry out same-sex weddings would be protected.
Establishing belief ceremonies, such as humanist ceremonies as a "third form of marriage", alongside religious and civil events.
Authorising Church of Scotland deacons to solemnise opposite sex marriage.
Possible tests for religious and belief bodies to meet when solemnising marriages or registering civil partnerships, in light of increasing concerns over sham and forced marriages.
Introducing religious and belief ceremonies to register civil partnerships.
Allowing transgender people to stay married, rather than having to get divorced, when obtaining a Gender Recognition Certificate.
Provision making it clear that the introduction of same-sex marriage has no impact on existing rights to freedom of speech and that it is possible to oppose same-sex marriage "without being homophobic".
Amended guidance on the teaching of the issue in schools.
And an intention to recognise same-sex marriages registered elsewhere in the UK and overseas.
Quakers have campaigned in favour of same-sex marriage and have said they would allow ceremonies to take place on their premises.
Other religious groups which back change include Buddhists and the Pagan Federation.
The Church of Scotland - whose ruling General Assembly last year voted to allow actively gay men and women to become ministers - has said the institution stood against homophobia, but added that the "wide spread of opinion" on gay marriage was reflected among members of congregations across the country.
As well as the main bill, Scottish ministers have also reached an agreement with the UK government for an amendment to the 2010 Equality Act.
Blessings offer
The move aims to protect individual religious celebrants, who do not wish to conduct same-sex marriages, from the threat of court action claiming discrimination.
Westminster's Marriage Act which became law last July, will allow religious organisations to "opt in" to offering weddings, with the Church of England and Church in Wales banned in law from doing so.
The Church of England, the Church in Wales and other faith groups have stated their opposition to gay marriage.
A report commissioned by the Church of England has recommended that members of the clergy should be allowed to offer blessings to same-sex couples.
The Northern Ireland Assembly is not currently considering any legislation to allow same-sex marriage.
The Scottish government's marriage bill was brought forward after a government consultation, which produced a record 77,508 responses.
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Scotland the Brave? How about Scotland the Sodomized?
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 04:12 AM
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I thought the scotlish were more into bestiality.
But it is true, when there is one, the other must be close by.
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 04:46 AM
The scotch always did like to mince around in dresses. You can't really tell the men from the women there, add that to the catholic factor and it's a wonder they didn't all go gay years ago.
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 05:06 AM
This is actually good news for scotch women: I've been to scotchland, and the "men" there are the ugliest, dumbest people I've ever met.
They're like micks with thicker beards.
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 09:49 AM
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The scotch always did like to mince around in dresses. You can't really tell the men from the women there, add that to the catholic factor and it's a wonder they didn't all go gay years ago.
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Amen Brother Godfly, add to that I always wondered what they did with those bagpipes - it couldn't be for making music.
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
...and get off my lawn
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 10:14 AM
Huh, scotchman actually exist? And they're making God-mocking laws? I thought they were all made up, because even though I never learned much in debating class, I did learn there is no such thing as a true scotsman.
Leviticus 26:15-16
And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 10:48 AM
They do make a nice nectar:
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 03:16 PM
Firstly, your views are disgusting. Why do homosexuals have less of a right to live than you? They can't help it. It is the way that their brain works. As someone who is interested in neuroscience I am sure I could point out many things in your brain that aren't normal. Does that mean we should stone you?
You say that the most important thing is love. Then why is the love between a man and a woman better than a man and a man. It is still true love because that is the way their brain works.
One of the most important things about being a human is freedom and you are being inhumane to prevent that.
Also, you say it is not normal but that is only from your limited perception of normality. What if being gay was normal and love between a man and a woman was a "perversion" as you call it. HEY, LET'S STONE THE STRAIGHT PEOPLE!! Doesn't seem very fun now does it.
One point which is an exception is that you believe your "god" wanted us to procreate. You can believe that if you want but if god created us to procreate why did he create homosexuals.
Being gay isn't a perversion of nature, it is NATURAL and you should accept it because it will never ever change because things do go wrong in the development of the brain.
You are being cruel and despite that in a lot of places the bible says a man to lie with another man is an abomination in even more places it is for homosexuals and supports the love in whatever form.
I am a straight atheist so this is not biased towards homosexuals and I have actually studied alot of chapters in the bible so you cannot say I am ignorant or dumb.
Thank you, you may now continue being cruel.
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-06-2014, 03:38 PM
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As someone who is interested in neuroscience I am sure I could point out many things in your brain that aren't normal.
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There is a difference between being interested in something and knowing anything about it. However, let's pretend you do know something about neuroscience (because even fools can be experts on the internet). The first thing that springs to mind here is the first part of Luke 4:23
And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself
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What if being gay was normal and love between a man and a woman was a "perversion" as you call it.
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Now you're just being silly, dear. Because it isn't, is it? If "ifs" and "ands" were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers
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Originally Posted by MrRight
despite that in a lot of places the bible says a man to lie with another man is an abomination in even more places it is for homosexuals and supports the love in whatever form.
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Chapter and verse, please. KJV of course.
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so you cannot say I am ignorant or dumb.
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Wrong again. I think you'll find we can do better than that and say you are both ignorant AND dumb.
But I will pray for you, dear,
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-07-2014, 02:53 AM
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Being gay ....because things do go wrong in the development of the brain.
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So you DO agree that it is an aberration.
Your only point being that "it's not their fault"
Next you'll be excusing pedophiles, murderers, thieves, etc.
Do you not know that even temporal courts only accept the insanity excuse for cases when (they claim) there is an inability to distinguish good from bad?
(and you do realize that in those case they might escape jail but are institutionalized for life)
Are you to say that instead of sinners they are soulless monsters, incapable of a moral judgment and without hope of salvation? Who's being heartless and insulting to those homers?
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-07-2014, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MrRight
Firstly, your views are disgusting. Why do homosexuals have less of a right to live than you? They can't help it. It is the way that their brain works. As someone who is interested in neuroscience I am sure I could point out many things in your brain that aren't normal. Does that mean we should stone you?
You say that the most important thing is love. Then why is the love between a man and a woman better than a man and a man. It is still true love because that is the way their brain works.
One of the most important things about being a human is freedom and you are being inhumane to prevent that.
Also, you say it is not normal but that is only from your limited perception of normality. What if being gay was normal and love between a man and a woman was a "perversion" as you call it. HEY, LET'S STONE THE STRAIGHT PEOPLE!! Doesn't seem very fun now does it.
One point which is an exception is that you believe your "god" wanted us to procreate. You can believe that if you want but if god created us to procreate why did he create homosexuals.
Being gay isn't a perversion of nature, it is NATURAL and you should accept it because it will never ever change because things do go wrong in the development of the brain.
You are being cruel and despite that in a lot of places the bible says a man to lie with another man is an abomination in even more places it is for homosexuals and supports the love in whatever form.
I am a straight atheist so this is not biased towards homosexuals and I have actually studied alot of chapters in the bible so you cannot say I am ignorant or dumb.
Thank you, you may now continue being cruel.
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Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .
If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.
Please make a thread of your own in the " Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-07-2014, 03:24 AM
The Scottish are demonic. The entire island is lost to satan.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Scotland joins Big Gay -
02-07-2014, 04:47 AM
I've always wondered what the Scotch meant by "tossing the caber". Now I know, and I wish I didn't!
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