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Liberal false Christian mocks Bible, calls all religious belief subjective -
06-16-2015, 02:47 AM
A liberal false Christian rips off the mask and discusses a belief system that, if taken to its logical conclusion, would lead to a denial of Christ.
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I recently wrote two pieces published at Baptist News Global (“A Scripture Lesson on Fundamentalism” and “What does a progressive Christian statement of faith look like?) that ignited a response I repeatedly hear from conservatives.
Their claim is that progressive Christian faith is based on subjective criteria not rooted in any objective reality. Of course, their objective reality is their inerrant Bible.
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Well, duh. How hard would it be for an omnipotent God to honor His promises to preserve His words?
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My response to this line of argument is that all religious belief and experience is subjective – all of it.
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How exactly is that supposed to work? Is it subjective whether you end up in Heaven or hell? Or does God expect us to guess at how to avoid eternal damnation, in which case He is a sadistic monster?
So how does this liberal false Christian discern truth? Here are some of his criteria:
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the historical-critical study of scripture, especially the Gospels, that is grounded in the rational assumption that fallible human beings produce fallible documents that reveal not God’s perfect will, but what flawed humans think about God’s will and how they interpret their God experience
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See my comment above about the inerrant Bible. If your secretary behaved in the same way, how long would you continue to employ that person?
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my own personal contemplative experience of the divine
how others have experienced God throughout religious history, with special consideration given to the mystical tradition
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Given the wide variations in people's "contemplative experience of the divine" and "how others have experienced God throughout religious history," that has to be the least reliable standard ever.
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[I]f Scripture legitimizes something it must be compassionate and vice versa. So this means that when scripture legitimizes polygamy, slavery, and genocide somehow these practices reflect God’s compassion. Now, does this sound rational?
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It does if you stop trusting in your own fallible human rationality and have faith in God's rationality (Proverbs 3:5, Isaiah 55:8-9). Then again, I guess that in order to be a progressive "Christian," you have to have more faith in your own rationality than in that of Almighty God. In that case, why do you need God's words at all?
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The seminary’s position was that only the original autographs of the Bible were inerrant. Therefore, it was important to establish the original text.
In a class on New Testament textual criticism I learned the basics about textual critical study. I learned that no original copy of any biblical book existed and that all the copies we have contain numerous variants (errors) – places where the manuscripts disagree with one another.
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He should have gone to a seminary that didn't portray the Lord most high as such an incompetent bungler.
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So I reasoned that if God really cared about giving humankind an inerrant, objective revelation then God certainly would have preserved the original autographs or at least preserved some infallible copies.
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The necessary implication is that that person does not think that God really cared about giving humankind an inerrant, objective revelation. Some God that would be.
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It was this kind of rational thinking that led me out of conservative Christianity.
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It is that kind of "rational" thinking that, if taken to its logical conclusion, would lead one out of Christianity altogether.
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Questions to ask liberal "Christians" ✞ Things that the Bible doesn't say ✞ Tolerance
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Re: Liberal false Christian mocks Bible, calls all religious belief subjective -
06-16-2015, 03:43 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Re: Liberal false Christian mocks Bible, calls all religious belief subjective -
06-22-2015, 04:37 PM
Sorry to say, they were right. The only religion true is l Muslim faith. ALLAHU AKBAR
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Re: Liberal false Christian mocks Bible, calls all religious belief subjective -
06-22-2015, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BROHANIS
Sorry to say, they were right. The only religion true is l Muslim faith. ALLAHU AKBAR
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Hello BROHANIS.
Muslims drink camel urine you should not do that even in a survival situation you should just drink water if you are thirsty.
Thank you.
Rusty
Psalms 116:6 The LORD preserveth the simple: I was brought low, and he helped me.
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Re: Liberal false Christian mocks Bible, calls all religious belief subjective -
06-22-2015, 07:04 PM
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Sorry to say, they were right. The only religion true is l Muslim faith. ALLAHU AKBAR
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Hey dude, I think you missed the Introductions thread...
Fyi, before you start trying to debate these people be sure you've read this:
Ezekiel 23:3 And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.
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Re: Liberal false Christian mocks Bible, calls all religious belief subjective -
06-23-2015, 03:37 AM
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Sorry to say, they were right. The only religion true is l Muslim faith. ALLAHU AKBAR
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