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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:06 AM
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YES! FINALLY! It is not possible that a tropical beach would be in Antarctica, because Antarctica is at the southern pole of the Earth, which gets less heat from the sun! If we went by:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...lat-earth2.jpg
That type of globe, Antarctica would have tropical paradises because it is, at certain points, at the same latitude as warmer climates!
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So now you are agreeing with us. The sun travels around the earth.
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Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
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10-30-2010, 03:08 AM
Why the edges of the firmament are cold (one of Gods mysteries explained with a easy to follow picture for those of limited intellectual facilities):
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:11 AM
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Circle= metaphor
People have not fallen off the edge of the earth. They sank and died in the ocean. It happens, and it happened a lot more back then. In modern mariner history, no one has yet to find the edge of the earth.
ALSO, if the circle map is indeed the accepted model here people CAN'T sail off the edge since the edge is made of land.
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How do you know they sank. were you on board the ship at the time. There are stories from people in the past telling of ship that sailed of the edge.
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You still didn't prove my points about Antarctica wrong because they are irrefutable, right? I can tell you no one has found the edge down there, ever, and people have explored it. You would think an edge like that would be really really really obvious. If the edge of the world existed, We would have found it by now.
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Somebody else is arguing this point, there is no use in repeating myself.
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Also, if the world wasn't a Globe, we wouldn't have Satellite TV, Satellite Radio, Satellite photos, nor would orbit be possible. We've sent so many missions into orbit. People who have orbited the world know it's a Globe.
Stop spreading bad info about the Creation of God.
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Of course there are satellites hovering above the earth. How else would we get satellite maps that prove the earth is flat and the other things you said.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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10-30-2010, 03:19 AM
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So now you are agreeing with us. The sun travels around the earth.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:23 AM
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How do you know they sank. were you on board the ship at the time. There are stories from people in the past telling of ship that sailed of the edge.
Somebody else is arguing this point, there is no use in repeating myself.
Of course there are satellites hovering above the earth. How else would we get satellite maps that prove the earth is flat and the other things you said.
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Please do finish reading what I write: "You can't sail off the edge since the edge is made of land." By your logic, and the circle map, you cannot sail off the edge.
Also, if the edge is there, people must have seen it. I would think it would actually be a huge tourist destination. I know if there was an edge, it would be on my list of places to Visit. Why, then, have I never heard of something like "Visit the Edge!" or "So and so was the first to reach the edge!"? It would be huge. Everyone would want to go there, I am sure, or at least the adventurous types who like to experience the glory of the world that God created by being among it.
You can't agree that Satellites exist and agree on a flat earth. The design of a Satellite does not allow for hovering. They are big hunks of metal with a little bit of technology in them that literally fall around the planet, which is why all the current satellites will burn up in our atmosphere.
Also, if there is a thread on Antarctica, instead of being /mean/ about it, be kind and link me to your discussion.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:23 AM
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Luke, the sun is above the earth not next to it.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:29 AM
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Why the edges of the firmament are cold (one of Gods mysteries explained with a easy to follow picture for those of limited intellectual facilities):
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by this model, there would be no ice at the north pole and it would be hot in the arctic circle all the time.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:30 AM
LOL, I almost bust a gut on that one. QuiteStupid. You really fulfill your destiny, I tell you. Are you a famous comedienne?
If the sun were that large, the Earth would be scorched. You crack me up! How do you come up with this stuff, it is priceless!
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:32 AM
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by this model, there would be no ice at the north pole and it would be hot in the arctic circle all the time.
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Son, obviously you have no understanding of the principals involved. Even spherical Earth people know the longer the distance, the greater the heat lost. The rays to the edges of the firmament are longer. No let the adults talk. You can stay and listen if you behave.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:32 AM
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Please do finish reading what I write: "You can't sail off the edge since the edge is made of land." By your logic, and the circle map, you cannot sail off the edge.
Also, if the edge is there, people must have seen it. I would think it would actually be a huge tourist destination. I know if there was an edge, it would be on my list of places to Visit. Why, then, have I never heard of something like "Visit the Edge!" or "So and so was the first to reach the edge!"? It would be huge. Everyone would want to go there, I am sure, or at least the adventurous types who like to experience the glory of the world that God created by being among it.
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I did read your writings. As I said there have be old stories of people sailing off the edge of the earth.
Why would anyone want to go to the edge of the earth and risk falling off. If people really want to see what they edge of the world would be like, they can just go to a cliff and see what it would look like.
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You can't agree that Satellites exist and agree on a flat earth. The design of a Satellite does not allow for hovering. They are big hunks of metal with a little bit of technology in them that literally fall around the planet, which is why all the current satellites will burn up in our atmosphere.
Also, if there is a thread on Antarctica, instead of being /mean/ about it, be kind and link me to your discussion.
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Why cannot I agree there are satellites. You may as well just say I cannot agree there is the sun and moon. Are you just wanting to have an argument for arguments sake.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:37 AM
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LOL, I almost bust a gut on that one. QuiteStupid. You really fulfill your destiny, I tell you. Are you a famous comedienne?
If the sun were that large, the Earth would be scorched. You crack me up! How do you come up with this stuff, it is priceless!
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I didn't think I'd get judged by People of God for my Microsoft Paint drawing skills. How big do you think the Sun really is?
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:39 AM
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I didn't think I'd get judged by People of God for my Microsoft Paint drawing skills. How big do you think the Sun really is?
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Go outside and check for yourself. It is the big yellow circle in the sky.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:41 AM
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I didn't think I'd get judged by People of God for my Microsoft Paint drawing skills. How big do you think the Sun really is?
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Sorry about degrading your skills, but you got to admit, it is incredibly ridiculous, like watching one of those jap Godzilla movies. So bad they are funny.
Your questions about the sun are all answerewd here:
The Sun: Millions of miles away?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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10-30-2010, 03:47 AM
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I see you never answered my question about Revelation 1:7
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10-30-2010, 03:49 AM
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Son, obviously you have no understanding of the principals involved. Even spherical Earth people know the longer the distance, the greater the heat lost. The rays to the edges of the firmament are longer. No let the adults talk. You can stay and listen if you behave.
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Yes, the longer the distance, the colder it gets (also has to do with how much atmosphere the heat energy must pass through and refraction angles that simply wouldn't exist on flat earth).
The shortest distance from the sun to your flat earth, by the diagram you posted, is from the north pole to the sun. I am not speaking of the antarctic, for that, by the flat earth logic, would be colder, HOWEVER, the arctic circle, aka, north, canada, russia, etc, by that map, gets the direct shot of sun.
This is not the case.
Please do not patronize me. It is unkind, insulting, and un-Christian.
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10-30-2010, 03:50 AM
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Sorry about degrading your skills, but you got to admit, it is incredibly ridiculous, like watching one of those jap Godzilla movies. So bad they are funny.
Your questions about the sun are all answerewd here:
The Sun: Millions of miles away?
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You're saying we'd get scorched in MY drawing? If the sun was 500 miles away, the Earth wouldn't exist. Water would evaporate, and it would be too hot to rain down again.
I've already explained this in a previous post, and unlike Lisa H, instead of telling you to go look through 2000+ posts to find it, I'll get it for you:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...45427&page=190
My post is the first on that page.
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10-30-2010, 03:55 AM
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I did read your writings. As I said there have be old stories of people sailing off the edge of the earth.
Why would anyone want to go to the edge of the earth and risk falling off. If people really want to see what they edge of the world would be like, they can just go to a cliff and see what it would look like.
Why cannot I agree there are satellites. You may as well just say I cannot agree there is the sun and moon. Are you just wanting to have an argument for arguments sake.
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Actually, I guarantee you people would travel there. Why risk walking to the edge of a cliff. You could fall off that too, and die. It's no less dangerous. I have found a hole in your logic.
There are satellites and you started to use them in an argument. You cannot refute them if you didn't in the first place. I proved you wrong and you decided to walk around it.
I am arguing for the sake of truth, not for the sake of arguing.
and LEVI sorry for missing your question! Overlooked it. Apologies
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The circle of the earth. Nowhere does it say it's a globe.
Revelation 1:7 tells us,
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
How could every eye in the world see Jesus return in the clouds if the earth was a globe? Wouldn't the people on the other side not be able to?
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There are many other possibilities. The would all see him at different times. It is possible that Jesus could appear to people in multiple places at once, or just circumnavigate the globe.
In theory, he'd even have to move around flat earth for everyone to see him.
Also, Jesus could appear in the MIND as a vision. Being all of God, surely this is not beyond the divine power.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 03:58 AM
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Yes, the longer the distance, the colder it gets (also has to do with how much atmosphere the heat energy must pass through and refraction angles that simply wouldn't exist on flat earth).
The shortest distance from the sun to your flat earth, by the diagram you posted, is from the north pole to the sun. I am not speaking of the antarctic, for that, by the flat earth logic, would be colder, HOWEVER, the arctic circle, aka, north, canada, russia, etc, by that map, gets the direct shot of sun.
This is not the case.
Please do not patronize me. It is unkind, insulting, and un-Christian.
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LOL, you think the North pole is at the center of the Earth? Child, the North Pole is at the top of the Earth, the South at the bottom. The Center of the Earth is closest to the sun, the outer edges of the firmament are furthest away.
You really have no idea what you are talking about. Think next time before you type. For all of eternity, you will be giving all future readers a great giggle.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:01 AM
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You're saying we'd get scorched in MY drawing? If the sun was 500 miles away, the Earth wouldn't exist. Water would evaporate, and it would be too hot to rain down again.
I've already explained this in a previous post, and unlike Lisa H, instead of telling you to go look through 2000+ posts to find it, I'll get it for you:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...45427&page=190
My post is the first on that page.
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The sun is a very small object. I bet it would easily fit into a football stadium. According to Pastor Ruben's infallible calculations, at 500 miles in the sky, the size that we see when we look up is about right. According to your 'stories' the sun would be so huge that is would fill the entire sky, and we all know, this simply is not true.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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10-30-2010, 04:05 AM
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Actually, I guarantee you people would travel there. Why risk walking to the edge of a cliff. You could fall off that too, and die. It's no less dangerous. I have found a hole in your logic.
There are satellites and you started to use them in an argument. You cannot refute them if you didn't in the first place. I proved you wrong and you decided to walk around it.
I am arguing for the sake of truth, not for the sake of arguing.
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You have not found a hole in my logic. You are just grasping at straws. If there was such a demand to venture to the edge of the world then there would be travel packages. Also think about the risks involved, no insurance company could afford the cost of people falling of the edge of the world.
I have never once said satellites do not exist. You are the one saying they cannot because the earth is flat. Just because the earth is not a sphere does not mean they do not exist. Do not twist my words or what I am telling you.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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