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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 05:05 AM
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Mhmm. Isn't it your soul that goes to hell?
And as far as I know, isn't your soul detached from your body meaning that you wouldn't feel physical pain? You know its your neurons and brain that interprets pain signals, right?
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Hell is described best by Jesus in Luke 16.
20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
I will get to listen to you beg from hell. I cannot wait!
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 05:35 AM
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There are a lot of things that you don't know, sweetheart.
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As I'm sure there are plenty of things you don't know either.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 05:40 AM
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Hell is describes best by Jesus in Luke 16.
20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
I will get to listen to you beg from hell. I cannot wait!
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Oh no no no. I didn't ask for another description of hell, I asked if you knew basic human anatomy...Which you don't seem to have a grasp of.
I don't do the whole begging thing either.
This little 'debate' is kind of depressing. I was hoping for maybe more valid arguments.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 05:53 AM
Brother Levi, may I suggest a title for our friend here? "Fluffy Bunny, Never Read the Bible"
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Mhmm. Isn't it your soul that goes to hell?
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No.
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And as far as I know, isn't your soul detached from your body meaning that you wouldn't feel physical pain?
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No.
Maybe you should try reading the Bible instead of throwing out a load of pop-Christianity nonsense that's not based on Scripture. Next you'll be saying you think cherubim are cute little chubby babies with wings!
I suggest you read Revelation 20, which will explain to you the First Resurrection (the bodily resurrection of certain martyrs from death to reign with Jesus for 1,000 years) and the Second Resurrection (the bodily resurrection from death of all not resurrected in the First Resurrection, to Judgment and the Second Death if unworthy, which is eternal torment in God's Lake of Fire).
Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 06:23 AM
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Brother Levi, may I suggest a title for our friend here? "Fluffy Bunny, Never Read the Bible"
No.
No.
Maybe you should try reading the Bible instead of throwing out a load of pop-Christianity nonsense that's not based on Scripture. Next you'll be saying you think cherubim are cute little chubby babies with wings!
I suggest you read Revelation 20, which will explain to you the First Resurrection (the bodily resurrection of certain martyrs from death to reign with Jesus for 1,000 years) and the Second Resurrection (the bodily resurrection from death of all not resurrected in the First Resurrection, to Judgment and the Second Death if unworthy, which is eternal torment in God's Lake of Fire).
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That sounds great!
Now how do you suppose I'll be resurrected if my ashes are in the ocean?
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 06:24 AM
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That sounds great!
Now how do you suppose I'll be resurrected if my ashes are in the ocean?
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I don't think you need to worry about that.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 06:35 AM
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No I do need to worry about that! I want to be assured my eternal damnation is carried out in a completely proper manner!
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 07:48 AM
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No I do need to worry about that! I want to be assured my eternal damnation is carried out in a completely proper manner!
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If Jesus can resurrect the decomposed remains of billions of people throughout the world who have been rotting for centuries, most of their remains turned to dirt, eaten up by bugs, absorbed by flowers, their atoms spread through the world possibly through the food chain -
if he can do that, gathering up some ashes spread throughout the ocean doesn't seem to hard.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 12:43 PM
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If Jesus can resurrect the decomposed remains of billions of people throughout the world who have been rotting for centuries, most of their remains turned to dirt, eaten up by bugs, absorbed by flowers, their atoms spread through the world possibly through the food chain -
if he can do that, gathering up some ashes spread throughout the ocean doesn't seem to hard.
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Do you have proof of this? Can you quote me your book to verify and back up this absolute nonsense?
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 02:54 PM
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Do you have proof of this? Can you quote me your book to verify and back up this absolute nonsense?
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Look little girl, what you are asking is ridiculous. Paul the Apostle was asked the same question, and this is what he said:
1 Corinthians 15: 35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-11-2010, 07:40 PM
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Look little girl, what you are asking is ridiculous. Paul the Apostle was asked the same question, and this is what he said:
1 Corinthians 15: 35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
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Can I get the spark notes version of that?
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
12-15-2010, 08:55 AM
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Can I get the spark notes version of that?
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Typical response from one of these "Emotheists" I see so much of these days.
As for the children killing themselves over this "My Chemistry Romance" I initially felt deeply saddened for their good, Christian parents. Now I can't help but wonder why these children were allowed outdoors or allowed to listen to any music other than church choir? It then struck me, the terrible truth - these parents were likely false-Christians, athiests and muslim. The muslim cult, in particular encourages suicide, as seen by recent events such as the 9/11 suicide bombing, the Haiti suicide bombing and the Christchurch suicide bombing.
In this case the parents were not looking after their property as The Lord commanded them to, and as such he has punished them for it. I expect to see the parents roasting in hell, begging for forgiveness once I reach Heaven, having let my life meet his natural end, presumably after about 200 years, given how holiness as been scientifically proven to increase ones lifespan.
Jesus is the only way to salvation.
This has been proven by christian scientists time and time again.
So called "Atheists" who choose to ignore these facts are knowingly allowing themselves into Satans grasp, and are the most likely to turn to muslimage.
I strongly believe in the death penalty, for all known Atheists.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
05-07-2011, 10:46 PM
i have to say that i don't think it's fair that you are using this story. you all live in America, all you have heard about it is from the newspaper article from a newspaper that everyday prints little more than trashy gossip. the girl that sparked this story, Hannah, i knew her, i went to school with her, and i was in the same group of friends as she was. we were never a cult-like group in any way, and would NEVER encourage a friend to commit suicide. we were all shocked and deeply saddened by Hannah's death. the truth is, nobody really knew what happened, or what was going on in her head, so who could really say if simply the music she listened to was the cause. i highly doubt that it was, as she was a smart girl with a strong will, who wouldn't let the words of a band dictate her actions.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
05-07-2011, 11:51 PM
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i have to say that i don't think it's fair that you are using this story. you all live in America, all you have heard about it is from the newspaper article from a newspaper that everyday prints little more than trashy gossip. the girl that sparked this story, Hannah, i knew her, i went to school with her, and i was in the same group of friends as she was. we were never a cult-like group in any way, and would NEVER encourage a friend to commit suicide. we were all shocked and deeply saddened by Hannah's death. the truth is, nobody really knew what happened, or what was going on in her head, so who could really say if simply the music she listened to was the cause. i highly doubt that it was, as she was a smart girl with a strong will, who wouldn't let the words of a band dictate her actions.
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Dear Necroposter:
Why did you hate Hannah and want her to die?
I assume you hated her because you aren't outraged about this band encouraging her to commit suicide.
Smart girls with strong wills don't commit suicide. Smart girls with weak wills commit suicide, because they can't find husbands. Smart girls with strong wills become lesbians like Hillary Clinton.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
11-06-2011, 05:09 PM
If they promote suicide then what's this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ODZm6WfTo
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
11-06-2011, 05:17 PM
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It's an obscene song written by satan himself.
GET THEE HENCE, pervert!
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
11-06-2011, 05:20 PM
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Pandering to the lowest common denominator.
They are taking advantage of people who lack Jesus, erecting themselves as idols in the empty space inside those miserable atheists where the Holy Ghost is meant to occupy.
I can think of no crime more despicable. It is as horrible as what the Vatican does, just not as widespread.
And you endorse this sort of behavior?
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
11-06-2011, 05:33 PM
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Pandering to the lowest common denominator.
They are taking advantage of people who lack Jesus, erecting themselves as idols in the empty space inside those miserable atheists where the Holy Ghost is meant to occupy.
I can think of no crime more despicable. It is as horrible as what the Vatican does, just not as widespread.
And you endorse this sort of behavior?
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I endorse in not hurting myself because they taught me that I'm better than that, and that everyone is beautiful in their own way, including me and you. Even though you seem ignorant in every way possible, you're still beautiful. All of you. "because even though we're all outcasts in our own way, we all belong in this world, and we all fit in this world."
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
11-06-2011, 05:36 PM
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I endorse in not hurting myself because they taught me that I'm better than that, and that everyone is beautiful in their own way, including me and you. Even though you seem ignorant in every way possible, you're still beautiful. All of you. "because even though we're all outcasts in our own way, we all belong in this world, and we all fit in this world."
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The only place you are going to fit in will be in Hell.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
11-07-2011, 01:40 PM
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she was a smart girl with a strong will, who wouldn't let the words of a band dictate her actions.
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AGAIN, Here are the Lyrics from the song 'Dead' from the album 'Black Parade' (Note: 'The Black Parade' is where all Emos foolishly believe they go when they die.)
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Have you heard the news that you're dead?
No one ever had much nice to say
I think they never liked you anyway
Oh take me from the hospital bed
Wouldn't it be grand?
It ain't exactly what you planned.
And wouldn't it be great
If we were dead?
Ohh dead.
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"Wouldn't it be great if we were dead"?? No doubt Hannah Bond had those exact words going round and round in here head when she took her own life.
The band might as well have placed a loaded gun in her mouth, and told her to pull the trigger, because putting sick lyrics like that in their songs, they probably knew full-well it would inspire that kind of reaction, especially in an braindead suicide-obsessed mentally-challenged girl like Hannah.
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