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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-02-2016, 11:04 PM
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I looked for the one that condemns homosexuals more then the others and found that one not knowing the history of the translation.
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Your grammar has some room for improvement but I think I get the jest. God condemns gays multiple times, most known in Leviticus 20:13. Your second question is a bit odd, the Christians here quote from the Bible, KJV. They don´t translate. Hope this helps,
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-03-2016, 04:22 PM
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Hello fellow Christians i am a gonna tell you bout myself and my story.
My life began in the year of 1954 my father was a baptist minister in favor of segregation and supported the banning of alcohol, ...
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Friend, I'm not sure if your Pa was as good a True Christian as God wants, as clearly the Lord wants us to enjoy the grape and grain He's provided :
John 2:7-11King James Version (KJV)
7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. 8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. 9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew; ) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
1 Timothy 5:23King James Version (KJV)
23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
Ecclesiastes 9:7King James Version (KJV)
7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
Psalm 104:14-15King James Version (KJV)
14 He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth;
15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
Isaiah 62:8-9King James Version (KJV)
8 The Lord hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:
9 But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the Lord; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.
I could continue, but I'm sure you get my gist.
And apologies, friend, if the formatting of this post is wonky; I'm on my phone.
Yours in the vineyards of Christ,
Leroy Llewellyn
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-03-2016, 06:46 PM
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Friend, I'm not sure if your Pa was as good a True Christian as God wants, as clearly the Lord wants us to enjoy the grape and grain He's provided :
John 2:7-11King James Version (KJV)
7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. 8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. 9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew; ) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
1 Timothy 5:23King James Version (KJV)
23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
Ecclesiastes 9:7King James Version (KJV)
7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
Psalm 104:14-15King James Version (KJV)
14 He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth;
15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
Isaiah 62:8-9King James Version (KJV)
8 The Lord hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:
9 But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the Lord; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.
I could continue, but I'm sure you get my gist.
And apologies, friend, if the formatting of this post is wonky; I'm on my phone.
Yours in the vineyards of Christ,
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The difference between that wine and this wine is that wine was like grapejuice and did not get people drunk but this wine is completely made so that people get drunk and start slipping their clothes off and sticking the sin parts in side of each other when God stictly wants us to be sober.
1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Galatians 5:21 - Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
Proverbs 23:29-35 - Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? (Read More...)
1 Corinthians 6:10 - Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 3:3 - Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
I suggest you repent for your drunkenness sir or you might have to face the fires of hell and damnation because as the king james bible says drunks shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Repent while you still can :fired evil:
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-03-2016, 07:08 PM
My dear sinner, welcome to this forum (tought it would have been better for you to come to the Real Church of Christ). Are you sure you're not an atheist who actually choose to hate God and is pretending to know his word?
Are you also sure you're not a socialist? You know what our Pope Saint Pius X sayd about progressism?
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"Progress" of dogmas is, in reality, nothing but corruption of dogmas... I absolutely reject the heretical doctrine of the evolution of dogma, as passing from one meaning to another, and different from the sense in wich the Church originally held it.
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-03-2016, 07:21 PM
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The difference between that wine and this wine is that wine was like grapejuice and did not get people drunk but this wine is completely made so that people get drunk and start slipping their clothes off and sticking the sin parts in side of each other when God stictly wants us to be sober.
1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Galatians 5:21 - Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
Proverbs 23:29-35 - Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? (Read More...)
1 Corinthians 6:10 - Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 3:3 - Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
I suggest you repent for your drunkenness sir or you might have to face the fires of hell and damnation because as the king james bible says drunks shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Repent while you still can :fired evil:
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As many false Christians do, you are falling into the Sin of twisting Holy Scripture to suit your immoral agenda. Ye, friend, I had suspicions about from your first posting, and ye are doing nothing to assuage those doubts:
A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape.
Proverbs 19:5
Of course the Lord wants us to never suffer the inequity of drunkenness, but it's plainly obvious He wants us to Rejoice, and Revel in His Good Name:
All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.
1 Corinthians 10:23-24
I fear you to be one of those revival-tent "pastors", looking to shuck-and-jive your way into good Christians' hearts to drain their wallets, and raise the skirts of the curious womenfolk behind your circus midway.
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-03-2016, 07:30 PM
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The difference between that wine and this wine is that wine was like grapejuice and did not get people drunk
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Where does that say in the Holy Bible, dear? Because most of the verses that you quote show that people in the Bible times were getting drunk, by drinking "that" wine in excess.
Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
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but this wine is completely made so that people get drunk and start slipping their clothes off and sticking the sin parts in side of each other when God stictly wants us to be sober.
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Dear, speaking from my personal experience, I can have a glass of Moscato and still be sober (ish).
1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they [do it] to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
I only get a little bit merry with wine, not drunk:
Ecclesiastes 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all [things].
I hope that was helpful, dear.
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-03-2016, 07:32 PM
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The difference between that wine and this wine is that wine was like grapejuice and did not get people drunk
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Your source, dear?
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-03-2016, 07:37 PM
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Where does that say in the Holy Bible, dear? Because most of the verses that you quote show that people in the Bible times were getting drunk, by drinking "that" wine in excess.
Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Dear, speaking from my personal experience, I can have a glass of Moscato and still be sober (ish).
1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they [do it] to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
I only get a little bit merry with wine, not drunk:
Ecclesiastes 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all [things].
I hope that was helpful, dear.
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Your source, dear?
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For women you are quite wise.
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-03-2016, 08:18 PM
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Where does that say in the Holy Bible, dear? Because most of the verses that you quote show that people in the Bible times were getting drunk, by drinking "that" wine in excess.
Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Dear, speaking from my personal experience, I can have a glass of Moscato and still be sober (ish).
1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they [do it] to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
I only get a little bit merry with wine, not drunk:
Ecclesiastes 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all [things].
I hope that was helpful, dear.
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Noah himself was a vintner:
And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 12:37 AM
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My core beliefs are summed up in ten points
1 The bible is the 100% inherent word of God with every verse being true.
2 The reasons school shootings, hot sex and suicide occur is that we replaced the ten commandments with our own wisdom.
3 Anyone who does not believe in God deserves to burn in hell for all of eternity.
4 Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Blacks, Jews, Spaniards, Italians and Muslims are not welcome to heaven and they will burn in hell.
5 Anyone who breaks the 10 commandments should be stoned.
6 If your penis causes you to sin then cut it off and put it into a blender.
7 Gay sex is a worse sin then murder all fags need to be stoned.
8 If you do obey all of his commandments then you are going to hell.
9 Anyone who listens to rock music is going to hell.
10 God has a right to do what he wants to you if God wants to throw me in hell because he feels like it then his will be done and i deserve every bit of torment for it.
As for the bible verse my favorite is this one.
22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters,24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Colossians 3:22-24
This one is going out to Negros who think that we should let them free even thou the bible fully supports slavery. You see Negros? obey your slave masters Jesus told you to obey so you obey.
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Dear person posting;
Much of your post is painful for me to read for reasons that I will refrain from elaborating upon. If by some chance you are amongst the Truly Saved, then I would not like to offend Jesus by instructing you, so I will limit myself to a few observations.
I am Italian, (I have the mustache and hairy arms to prove it) and I accepted the Lord Jesus as My Personal Savior and was covered with His Perfect Blood Sacrifice when I was 16. Are you saying that I am not Saved? The Bible would seem to suggest otherwise.
Believing in God doesn't prevent a person from going to hell. Nobody was more certain of God's existence than Satan and God sent him to hell right after setting it up. Obeying God is the point. Plenty of people go on and on about how they believe in God, but they don't put in the same level of energy in obeying Him. Do you obey the Lord in all things?
Inquiringly Yours,
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 01:45 AM
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Dear person posting;
Much of your post is painful for me to read for reasons that I will refrain from elaborating upon. If by some chance you are amongst the Truly Saved, then I would not like to offend Jesus by instructing you, so I will limit myself to a few observations.
I am Italian, (I have the mustache and hairy arms to prove it) and I accepted the Lord Jesus as My Personal Savior and was covered with His Perfect Blood Sacrifice when I was 16. Are you saying that I am not Saved? The Bible would seem to suggest otherwise.
Believing in God doesn't prevent a person from going to hell. Nobody was more certain of God's existence than Satan and God sent him to hell right after setting it up. Obeying God is the point. Plenty of people go on and on about how they believe in God, but they don't put in the same level of energy in obeying Him. Do you obey the Lord in all things?
Inquiringly Yours,
Handmaiden
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I made one mistake on the commandment if you do not obey the commands of Jesus then you will go to hell because it is faith plus works because faith is dead faith.
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
James 2:14-26
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 02:02 AM
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Where does that say in the Holy Bible, dear? Because most of the verses that you quote show that people in the Bible times were getting drunk, by drinking "that" wine in excess.
Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Dear, speaking from my personal experience, I can have a glass of Moscato and still be sober (ish).
1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they [do it] to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
I only get a little bit merry with wine, not drunk:
Ecclesiastes 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all [things].
I hope that was helpful, dear.
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Its really simple my father told me as a wee little lad that is how they did it therefore i believe him.
And as for getting drunk God hates the drunkards so it is best to ban wine and just leave it as a reminder of our sinful past because we humans without God have no self control and God commands us to remain sober for him.
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09-04-2016, 02:07 AM
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I made one mistake on the commandment if you do not obey the commands of Jesus then you will go to hell because it is faith plus works because faith is dead faith.
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
James 2:14-26
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Yeah, you made a lot of mistakes in that post, blueboy. But I'm glad you picked up on my point by including number 19 on your list there. Overlooking that key point seems like a major oversight for someone so very dedicated to spreading the Word.
Supercilliously Yours,
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 03:21 AM
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Its really simple my father told me as a wee little lad that is how they did it therefore i believe him.
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...And apparently you didn't listen to him when he told you to study it for a whole summer. Otherwise you'd know that a little wine is good in the eyes of God.
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And as for getting drunk God hates the drunkards so it is best to ban wine
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And how would you support such an outlandish statement with the Holy Scripture? (Given all of the Scripture that was cited to you that clearly contradict your proposal).
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and just leave it as a reminder of our sinful past because we humans without God have no self control and God commands us to remain sober for him.
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Yeah, but He still commands us to drink wine instead of water:
1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
I hope that was helpful. Now I'm gonna get me a glass of Michigan ice wine.
I want to be merry like God commands me to:
Ecclesiastes 8:Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.
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09-04-2016, 03:56 AM
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...you'd know that a little wine is good in the eyes of God.
Yeah, but He still commands us to drink wine instead of water:
1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
I hope that was helpful. Now I'm gonna get me a glass of Michigan ice wine.
I want to be merry like God commands me to:
Ecclesiastes 8:Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.
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Such wise insights, Sister. But the most convincing Biblical reference of all is this:
John 2:1-11
And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.
So, really, exactly why would Jesus turn water into a foul substance? I mean, He could if He wanted to, of course! But He didn't. Anyway, maybe when we get to Heaven we can all drink some Jesus-squeezed wine. Wouldn't that be great?
Grapefully Yours,
Handmaiden
P.S. I've decided that I like the word "firkin".
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Basilissa
Where does that say in the Holy Bible, dear? Because most of the verses that you quote show that people in the Bible times were getting drunk, by drinking "that" wine in excess.
Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Dear, speaking from my personal experience, I can have a glass of Moscato and still be sober (ish).
1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they [do it] to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
I only get a little bit merry with wine, not drunk:
Ecclesiastes 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all [things].
I hope that was helpful, dear.
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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda
Your source, dear?
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Originally Posted by handmaiden
Such wise insights, Sister. But the most convincing Biblical reference of all is this:
John 2:1-11
And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.
So, really, exactly why would Jesus turn water into a foul substance? I mean, He could if He wanted to, of course! But He didn't. Anyway, maybe when we get to Heaven we can all drink some Jesus-squeezed wine. Wouldn't that be great?
Grapefully Yours,
Handmaiden
P.S. I've decided that I like the word "firkin".
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Humans are evil as said in the bible
Matthew 15:19 - For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Genesis 6:5 - And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.
John 8:44 - Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Wine is something that God did create however our evil human nature must limit how much wine we consume to not become drunkards.
Leviticus 10:9 - Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: [it shall be] a statute for ever throughout your generations:
Isaiah 5:11- Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, [that] they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, [till] wine inflame them!
Hosea 4:11 - Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the heart.
Romans 13:13 - Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
Therefore you Christians need to watch yourself if you are drinking wine simply for the lord (Whether therefore ye eat, or drink or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God 1 Corinthians 10:31 KJV). Or are you just drinking wine to get drunk? because if you are then you are not a true Christian and you are on the path to hell my friend so which one is it?
If it is the second one then go and repent and obey the word of God to avoid hellfire because drunks do not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:10 - Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 05:03 AM
"you Christians?"
Which one of us are you accusing of being drunkards, exactly?
Please be specific.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda
"you Christians?"
Which one of us are you accusing of being drunkards, exactly?
Please be specific.
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I am accusing mostly Leroy here on one other person (not you) of being a drunkard. As for you Christans? i am mostly referring to false Christians there as true Christians get the label of true Christians plus Disciples of Christ and wannabes just get called Christian or supposedly Christian and a heretic Christian.
I should have put heretic Christian there.
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 01:46 PM
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I am accusing mostly Leroy here on one other person (not you) of being a drunkard. As for you Christans? i am mostly referring to false Christians there as true Christians get the label of true Christians plus Disciples of Christ and wannabes just get called Christian or supposedly Christian and a heretic Christian.
I should have put heretic Christian there.
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I am of good conscience, evildoer. Art thou?
Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
1 Peter 3:16
Yours in Christ,
Leroy Llewellyn
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13
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Re: My introduction and my story as a christian -
09-04-2016, 01:53 PM
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.
Colossians 2:16
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13
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