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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 03:18 PM

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The problem is how you define 'Christian'. If a Christian is someone who lives his or her life believing in the bible, Christian practices and beliefs, then the TC are Christians. However by this definition; Satanists, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Voodoo Priests, Charlie Manson's sad lot and many other groups are also Christians, as their religious traditions are based on believing in the bible, Christian practices and beliefs - even though for groups like Satanism many of those beliefs are the result of 'renouncing' Christianity or the complete antithesis of the beliefs held by more orthodox Christian groups.

Are you a retarded? If you follow all Christ's commands 100%, you are a Christian; if not, then:
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
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As an example, True Paganism is not Satanic because it has nothing to do with Christianity or the bible, the source of all the original ideas about the Devil.

Ok, you are a retarded. If there were such a thing as "true paganism", it'd be Satanic because it has nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible, but would be an invention of Satan, who is the source of all the original ideas about the Devil.
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As with Judaism and Islam, there are also many people who identify as 'ethnic' Christians, that they are Christian from being born into a Christian family.
Are there? Do they seriously think their ethnicity will save them from eternal Hellfire?


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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 06:10 PM

Threads like this are the reason I keep coming back for more. Joh - please please please don't give up yet. This is far too entertaining.
While you're at it, would you mind giving those of us who are interested a snippet of personal information, such as A/S/L, because I have trouble convincing my friends that retardeds like you actually exist. You think we can't possibly be real Christians? We're even then, because I think you can't possibly be that stupid........
Your turn.....


The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine."
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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 06:57 PM

They do seem to follow their own bible literally, and in it's entirety. Isn't that what a Christian is supposed to do? Follow it directly and completely?


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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 07:27 PM

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They do seem to follow their own bible literally, and in it's entirety. Isn't that what a Christian is supposed to do? Follow it directly and completely?
No.

Only evangelical fundamentalists (such as the Baptists) follow the Bible literally word-for-word; in English, disregarding that the scriptures were originally in the Hebraic and Greek languages, and disregarding the hundreds of translations over a thousand years or so ...

Mainstream Christian denominations (such as the Anglican-Episcopal Church where I am a communion minister) understand that theological interpretation is necessary in order to account for the origin and meaning of the many books included in the Bible and their original message.

The Bible is a collection of historical chronologies, poetry, metaphor, letters to various ancient churches by assorted authors (The Book of Revelation is a prime example) and so on ...



1st Timothy 2: 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 07:57 PM

Noddy does E-pis-co-palians worship like Anglicans. I used to be a confirmed Anglican and I don't remember having an Episcopalian anything...


The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine."
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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 08:14 PM

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Noddy does E-pis-co-palians worship like Anglicans. I used to be a confirmed Anglican and I don't remember having an Episcopalian anything...
Are you from Australia, Guy? I'm American ...

... and here, the descendant of the Church of England is the Protestant Episcopal Church of the United States ...

... we are a member of the world-wide Anglican Communion of Churches, originally descended from the Church of England. In Australia, the Anglican Church is not called Episcopal, it's called Anglican. The same is true in Canada and a number of other countries.

But they are all mainstream apostolic churches, not literalist fundamentalist evangelical (like the Baptist)

... hoping this helps to explain, from noddy


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1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 08:39 PM

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Only evangelical fundamentalists (such as the Baptists) follow the Bible literally word-for-word; in English, disregarding that the scriptures were originally in the Hebraic and Greek languages, and disregarding the hundreds of translations over a thousand years or so ...
Are you, who doesn't know what Adversary is in hebrew, really claiming to read the scriptures in hebrew (or even greek)??


The KJV1611 is the literal Word of God!
The original hebrew scriptures have been lost, and the newer ones are all corrupted. Same with the greek NT.
That's why God gave us the KJV1611 so that we would once again, have the perfect word of God.
Praise Jesus!


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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 08:52 PM

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Are you, who doesn't know what Adversary is in hebrew, really claiming to read the scriptures in hebrew (or even greek)??


The KJV1611 is the literal Word of God!
The original hebrew scriptures have been lost, and the newer ones are all corrupted. Same with the greek NT.
That's why God gave us the KJV1611 so that we would once again, have the perfect word of God.
Praise Jesus!
No ...

I am not claiming to have read the original Hebrew and Greek versions of the scriptures ...

In my posts above I was answering questions by Ninja and Guy ... do you want to confuse them, Mr Salvation?

There are two major kinds of Christians in the world: fundamentalist evangelical and mainstream apostolic ...

... they are so different that they no longer seem like the same religion ...

Whichever kind of Christianity people choose depends upon the kind of faith and practice that appeals to them emotionally ...

Some people are confused ... when I see this sort of confusion I sometimes try to explain the differences, whenever I know the answers ...



1st Timothy 2: 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 09:53 PM

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No ...

I am not claiming to have read the original Hebrew and Greek versions of the scriptures ...

In my posts above I was answering questions by Ninja and Guy ... do you want to confuse them, Mr Salvation?

There are two major kinds of Christians in the world: fundamentalist evangelical and mainstream apostolic ...

... they are so different that they no longer seem like the same religion ...

Whichever kind of Christianity people choose depends upon the kind of faith and practice that appeals to them emotionally ...

Some people are confused ... when I see this sort of confusion I sometimes try to explain the differences, whenever I know the answers ...

Whenever you have the answers?
Since you never have them, I'm surprised you ever speak up..

Here's the real facts/answers:
THE KJV1611 IS THE LITERAL WORD OF GOD. ALL OF IT.
Case closed. Praise Jesus!

And anyone who denies that we have the uncorrupted Word of God (ie the KJV1611) is a blasphemer.


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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 10:00 PM

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Whenever you have the answers?
Since you never have them, I'm surprised you ever speak up..

Here's the real facts/answers:
THE KJV1611 IS THE LITERAL WORD OF GOD. ALL OF IT.
Case closed. Praise Jesus!

And anyone who denies that we have the uncorrupted Word of God (ie the KJV1611) is a blasphemer.
As I said before in another post somewhere, you and I simply don't agree on any of it, Mr Seeker.


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1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-09-2007, 10:12 PM

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As I said before in another post somewhere, you and I simply don't agree on any of it, Mr Seeker.
Opinon has nothing to do with it.
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
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Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
Mark 13:31

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
Luke 21:33

You blaspheme GOD by believing He cannot preserve His Holy Word!
Now zip it you simple woman, before I assign you a bucketload of infraction points.


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Default Re: Please stop pretending to be christians. - 08-10-2007, 12:04 AM

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Are you from Australia, Guy? I'm American and here, the descendant of the Church of England is the Protestant Episcopal Church of the United States. We are a member of the world-wide Anglican Communion of Churches, originally descended from the Church of England. In Australia, the Anglican Church is not called Episcopal, it's called Anglican. The same is true in Canada and a number of other countries.

But they are all mainstream apostolic churches...
You spelt "apostate" wrong.


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