[Mistress Cookie]

Originally Posted by natasliah

HAIL SATAN!!!

Printing that drawing of our President's face with demonic horns on it is not respectful.

We may not like it, but True Christian™s are bid to follow secular law.

[Mistress Cookie]

Originally Posted by natasliah

Speak for yourself,
Canadian satanists ftw!

You are in danger of straying from the sacred path.

Let me remind you:

Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

[BertBr]

i have another reason!

i ve never seen a homosexual christian,
as homosexuality is a handicap it clearly is a punishment from god for being so retarded, everybody who can think logic sees this

praise the lord!
no gay atheïst potsmoking hippies in the schools of our children
amen

[dyingatheist]

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”


I found this on the net, it's from an ancient greek atheist.
Can someone tell me what is wrong about his reasoning , please.
I can't find it and I want to be enlightened

[Janine Walker]

Originally Posted by dyingatheist

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”


I found this on the net, it's from an ancient greek atheist.
Can someone tell me what is wrong about his reasoning , please.
I can't find it and I want to be enlightened

God gave us freewill, that gives us the ability to kill each other, leave babies unattended in hot cars with the windows down, suicide bomb each other and many other horrible things. BUT, it also gives us the ability to love, to truly love and without freewill that not be possible.

Without freewill we wouldn't have the the beautiful art, we wouldn't have true love for God, we wouldn't have war, we wouldn't have many things. We'd simply be no different than a rat in a cage. Does that sound like a very loving God? No, it doesn't.

The Devil's best trick is hiding in plain sight.

Luke 22:3-4

Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. 4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.

He has the ability to enter people and make them do horrible things.


Rev 12:8-9

And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon wwas cast out, that old yserpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: che was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

I think this is a clear example of how Satan has the ability to deceive. I mean, if he can deceive the whole world wouldn't you think he could deceive one man?

Luke 8:10-13

0 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. 11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. 13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

The devil took the word of the Lord right out of their hearts, he has the ability to stop us from believing and that is exactly what he is making you do. Pick up a Bible and learn something, please.

2 Cor 2:10-11

To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Satan takes advantage of us and sometimes makes us ignorant.


Okay, now I've provided you with enough scripture to support that Satan is very deceiving, I think you really should stop googling atheist things. Sure, you saw it on a website and thought it was cool. Really though, before you ask questions in a horribly immature attempt to discredit our faith, you should read the Bible. I realize at times it's hard when you are mad at your parents or when you feel like you didn't get the life you deserved but there's reasons for that.

You are a sinner and thus God has a hard time answering your prayers. Despite what you may believe, atheism is not a cool fad. It is not wearing skinny jeans, it is not having a fauxhawk or a mohawk or scene hair. Atheism isn't going to a concert or wearing Hello Kitty. It's far worse than that, when you die, you go straight to Hell.



Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever

Does that sound like the same thing as your parents yelling at you or your friends making fun of your haircut? Perhaps, does it sound like a phase or a temporary thing? Does that sound like detention at school, a beating or a spanking? You be the judge, I suppose.

In Christ, Janine Walker

[nord-olof]

Originally Posted by Bob4God

[6. They don't believe in a loving, personal GOD who cares so much about us He volunteered His only son to die temporarily for our sins! If this didn't happen, how could any of us go to Heaven?

Nobody has ever gone to heaven nor hell. And nobody will.

7. They don't believe in a GOD who is actively in control of Earth and our lives. Just the other day me and my wife received a prayer alert from her brother that our nephew would be taking a rather critical test in school, and that we should ask the LORD to guide Him and give Him the knowledge to pass it. The entire family prayed, and do you know what? He got an A+ on that test! That's all the proof I need!

But that isnt proof, your son just simply passed the test. I cant believe that you are reasoning like that.

8. Atheists are usually bad at debating and end up saying that you can't prove there IS a god, so why should they obey this religion or that? Well, to that I have to answer, just because you can't disprove GODdoesn't mean He doesn't exist. I can't believe the lack of logic these people have!

Atheists arent those who come up with statements. If i claim that i can walk on water, can i really say "well, prove i cant walk on water" as an argument and profe that i can walk on water? No, i cant. To prove i can i must walk on water infront of people, just like you have to prove that god exists to people.

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

Friend,

What part of "checkmate" don't you understand? I wish you atheists would stop reusing arguements we Christians have rebuted time and time again.

Okey, so if i say "checkmate christians!" that makes all your comments useless (even though they in fact are...)?

So you admit there is a spaghettimonster if i hold up some noodles?

Originally Posted by Heathen_Basher

Treatment of disease? Please. We are not false Christians. We do as the Bible says - we DON'T go to doctors. We have faith in Jesus. And we don't get sick. If we got sick, it would be a sign God is punishing us, and we would pray for healing.

Anyone who tries to use bogus "medicine" is going to hell

If, notice IF, you would get sick and have to go to a hospital and there you were cured, would you thank god or the doctors? And trust me, christians do get sick.

I smoke grass.

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Sorry, but we are going to take God's word over some 14 year old brit troll.

How mature. But the statement stands. There is no evidence what so ever that the bible is true. And the argument that god wrote the book doesnt hold up because there are no evidence that god wrote the bible or even exists.

Originally Posted by BertBr

i have another reason!

i ve never seen a homosexual christian,
as homosexuality is a handicap it clearly is a punishment from god for being so retarded, everybody who can think logic sees this

praise the lord!
no gay atheïst potsmoking hippies in the schools of our children
amen

I have a christian friend who just came out of the closet...

And i rather not have a pedophile creationist teaching my children lies.

[Meek and Humble]

Originally Posted by nord-olof

If, notice IF, you would get sick and have to go to a hospital and there you were cured, would you thank god or the doctors? And trust me, christians do get sick.

If I ever got sick, I would definitely NOT go to a doctor! That is the same as spitting in God's face!

First of all, if you get sick, its your own damn fault.

If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee. -- Exodus 15:26

When you are sick, rely on faith-based medicine. Prayer and faith alone will cure you.

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up. --James 5:14-15

For as it says in the Psalms,

The Lord ... healeth all thy diseases. -- Psalm 103:2-3

And as Jesus said to the woman who touched his garment,

Thy faith hath made thee whole. -- Matthew 9:22, Mark 5:34, Luke 8:48

Or just touch your religious leader's handkerchief or something.

So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them. -- Acts 19:12

But whatever you do, don't go to a doctor. God is insulted if you trust science more than faith.

And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians. -- 2 Chronicles 16:12

I smoke grass.

That explains a lot

[dyingatheist]

Originally Posted by Janine Walker

God gave us freewill, that gives us the ability to kill each other, leave babies unattended in hot cars with the windows down, suicide bomb each other and many other horrible things. BUT, it also gives us the ability to love, to truly love and without freewill that not be possible.

Without freewill we wouldn't have the the beautiful art, we wouldn't have true love for God, we wouldn't have war, we wouldn't have many things. We'd simply be no different than a rat in a cage. Does that sound like a very loving God? No, it doesn't.

The Devil's best trick is hiding in plain sight.

Luke 22:3-4

Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. 4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.

He has the ability to enter people and make them do horrible things.


Rev 12:8-9

And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon wwas cast out, that old yserpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: che was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

I think this is a clear example of how Satan has the ability to deceive. I mean, if he can deceive the whole world wouldn't you think he could deceive one man?

Luke 8:10-13

0 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. 11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. 13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

The devil took the word of the Lord right out of their hearts, he has the ability to stop us from believing and that is exactly what he is making you do. Pick up a Bible and learn something, please.

2 Cor 2:10-11

To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Satan takes advantage of us and sometimes makes us ignorant.


Okay, now I've provided you with enough scripture to support that Satan is very deceiving, I think you really should stop googling atheist things. Sure, you saw it on a website and thought it was cool. Really though, before you ask questions in a horribly immature attempt to discredit our faith, you should read the Bible. I realize at times it's hard when you are mad at your parents or when you feel like you didn't get the life you deserved but there's reasons for that.

You are a sinner and thus God has a hard time answering your prayers. Despite what you may believe, atheism is not a cool fad. It is not wearing skinny jeans, it is not having a fauxhawk or a mohawk or scene hair. Atheism isn't going to a concert or wearing Hello Kitty. It's far worse than that, when you die, you go straight to Hell.



Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever

Does that sound like the same thing as your parents yelling at you or your friends making fun of your haircut? Perhaps, does it sound like a phase or a temporary thing? Does that sound like detention at school, a beating or a spanking? You be the judge, I suppose.

In Christ, Janine Walker

Actually , I read a part of the bible, and I think the bible is great!
It shows us how to live, how to make the world a better place for everyone, but I think that the way it's described, is a bit out of date. Someone should rewrite the bible in a modern way, or people should just start realising what they can, and what they can't do. God was just invented so people wouldn't ask too many questions. God does not exist, the fact that you can NOT prove he exists , is my proof to say that he does NOT exist
nevertheless , there are some great truths in the bible
but you should leave out all this jesus and god stuff

[YouPeopleMakeMeSick]

As an atheist, I am sickened by this thread. So much ignorance by supposed adults is amazing.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by YouPeopleMakeMeSick

As an atheist, I am sickened by this thread. So much ignorance by supposed adults is amazing.

Is there anything specific you disagree with? Or are we supposed to read your mind?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by YouPeopleMakeMeSick

As an atheist, I am sickened by this thread. So much ignorance by supposed adults is amazing.

I'm sure you are. The Holiness of this forum must be poison to you, demon.

[Whatiswrongwithme?]

Originally Posted by YouPeopleMakeMeSick

As an atheist, I am sickened by this thread. So much ignorance by supposed adults is amazing.

#

I agree with you 100%
I can´t believe, that people like on these forums here even exist. I mean, are you really that piffleing stupid and ignorant?
You all are a bunch of fanatic lunatics, I think I never saw so much stupidity in one place (this is worse than 4chan etc)
Things like:

"The bible is written by god, because it is real and I can hold it in my hand"

I mean seriously people, you believe in god because of something like this?
I wouldn´t call myself an atheist, because I believe in some higher force in this world. But I would never join your club of fanatic christians.
You cannot imagine how dissappointed I am in humanity right now, that there are people believing in this bullshit.

I will get some crazy responses for this one, I know, but maybe, there are still people in here that can be waken up from this insanity. Think about your lifes and stop spreading this shit.

And don´t start talking about how I use piffleing swear words, or make dumb conclusions, that I don´t love nature and such. Or that my grammar is so bad (I am not native english speaking).

Just try to be somewhat open-minded and I beg you, please:

Stop this once in for all. There are much bigger problems on this planet, that needs to be solved and with 28.000 members registered here, it makes me sad how much manpower is wasted here.

And I bet your god (if he exists) would disapprove with this form of religion. If there is a god, that loves you, he would not send you to hell, if you´ve done something wrong and you would burn ´till eternity. That was just a cheap way of making money in the middle ages and to scare the citizens, who could not read and therefore could not understand the bible.

I beg you, to question your religion.

[Whatiswrongwithme?]

I can not edit my posts? O_O
anyway the forum software changed my post, when there is piffleing, I really mean

[potty mouth deleted]

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Originally Posted by Whatiswrongwithyou?

And I bet your god (if he exists) would disapprove with this form of religion. If there is a god, that loves you, he would not send you to hell, if you´ve done something wrong and you would burn ´till eternity. That was just a cheap way of making money in the middle ages and to scare the citizens, who could not read and therefore could not understand the bible.

Why would God disapprove of us following all of His commandments to the letter? Whether or not you believe in God does not change the fact that if there is a God (which there is), then He would most certainly be pleased with us and send Godmockers like you to Hell. See, the Bible says in numerous places that there is a Hell.

Your conception of what God is and what God likes is based completely on your own personal mindset and has nothing to do with His Word.

[Cursed]

Originally Posted by Whatiswrongwithyou?

I can´t believe, that people like on these forums here even exist. I mean, are you really that piffleing stupid and ignorant?

You call the Pastors and fine True Christians stupid and ignorant?

How dare you, you filthy twisted little monster! These are the finest people in the WORLD! You venomous turd, I rebuke you, garbage!

You all are a bunch of fanatic lunatics, I think I never saw so much stupidity in one place (this is worse than 4chan etc)

You sick 4channer, how would you know what's on it unless you were there? Do you know what you are when you go to 4chan? You're one of THEM. I fear it's too late for you already, you pot-bellied savage!

Things like:

"The bible is written by god, because it is real and I can hold it in my hand"

I mean seriously people, you believe in god because of something like this?

You don't have to believe in it; it's there already. The HOLY BIBLE isn't some fantasy, you can buy it at any bookstore. If you actually read it, the instructions are pretty clear what you have to do to get to Heaven. Landover Baptist follows those instructions. Do you get it now?

I wouldn´t call myself an atheist, because I believe in some higher force in this world.

Who cares what you call yourself? God calls you an abomination (Proverbs 6:16-19), false witness, burn in Hell forever!

But I would never join your club of fanatic christians.

Your call; unfortunately, that does mean you will be thrown into the Lake of Fire for all eternity. Whatever you think is best, Einstein.

You cannot imagine how dissappointed I am in humanity right now, that there are people believing in this bullshit.

You dare to compare the one and only Word of God to defecation? You disgusting filth, you make me physically ill. I hope God throws you into Hell soon!

I will get some crazy responses for this one, I know, but maybe, there are still people in here that can be waken up from this insanity. Think about your lifes and stop spreading this shit.

Call the commands of GOD crazy, it's your forever funeral. And why we're making suggestions, please think about how horrible it will be in Hell, and consider reading the King James Bible and saving your immortal soul before it's too late.

And don´t start talking about how I use piffleing swear words, or make dumb conclusions, that I don´t love nature and such. Or that my grammar is so bad (I am not native english speaking).

Now that you mention it, your cursing is horribly rude. You should be polite when you enter someone's home as a guest. Do you like it when uninvited guests barge into your house yelling obscenities and mocking your beliefs? You don't see Landover Baptists in your Star Wars fan forum mocking your doll collections, do you? Can you guess why?

Because Landover Baptists are gentlemen and ladies who would never, ever insult their hosts, even virtual ones. They are beyond reproach, and you should hang your misshapen head in shame.

Just try to be somewhat open-minded and I beg you, please:

Landover Baptists are open to anything in the 1611 King James Bible. Nothing else matters. Absolutely nothing.

Stop this once in for all. There are much bigger problems on this planet, that needs to be solved and with 28.000 members registered here, it makes me sad how much manpower is wasted here.

Landover Baptist will stop the second The Rapture begins, and not a bit sooner.

That's when you'll know it's too late for your soul. When this forum closes, it's because all of the True Christians have been taken by GOD straight into Heaven! And that's when the "fun" just begins for you, sicko, just you and the other animals left behind to rip each other apart until judgment day. I can't wait, I hope the End Times start tomorrow and we all die!

And I bet your god (if he exists) would disapprove with this form of religion.

So you think the LORD GOD would disapprove of people who follow His Holy Word?

Stop abusing drugs and read your last sentence in a couple of days. Now don't you feel stupid?

If there is a god, that loves you, he would not send you to hell, if you´ve done something wrong and you would burn ´till eternity. That was just a cheap way of making money in the middle ages and to scare the citizens, who could not read and therefore could not understand the bible.

Looks like YOU haven't read the Holy Bible either, now have you? GOD will send the vast majority of people to Hell (Matthew 7:13), how could you be this ignorant of His Word? Wide is the path to Hell, it is the easy way that most will take. You are on the wide path, wretched blackguard!

I beg you, to question your religion.

I beg you, question your ignorance! Why do you think you know more about what GOD wants than people who learn the Word of God, I wonder? What arrogance! What a tragedy you are; I'm shaking my head here, you can't be ashamed, so I'm ashamed for you. I feel bad for your parents. I'm sorry, your parents!

[AtheistsUnited]

I am just joining this thread, and thus I will not read through the whole thread. My name is Patrik, and I am here as a representative of the Facebook® page I co-administer.

Henceforth I will try to be as objective as possible, and I will point out any and all fallacious arguments I see. Please note that I will argue fact from the best of my knowledge, and it is not necessarily true that I will be able to find sources. If you do feel a need for te source of my information, or my reasoning behind it, please do inquire.

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I do feel it's safe to assume that all the reasons provided in the original post have already been proven to be fallacious, if not, I would like to know about it. And I do know that since the original post is challenging my opinion, I am the one supposed to make a defence here, but I would like to challenge anyone to point out one reason for why a position of atheism is wrong, that isn't fallacious.

Challenge:
Provide non-fallacious, non-ignorant supportive statement that would regard a position of atheism to be wrong.

- Patrik (I give my name, as it is possible other admins from my page will use this account in the future)

[Lycia The Repentant]

Originally Posted by AtheistsUnited

Challenge:
Provide non-fallacious, non-ignorant supportive statement that would regard a position of atheism to be wrong.

OK Legion, I'm going to ignore the fact that you're too lazy to read through this thread.

Atheism is wrong because without God, you have no basis for morality. In an existence without God, raping people and killing babies is exactly as moral and just as acting in accordance with Biblical guidelines.

What do you think of that, Godmockers?

[AtheistsUnited]

Originally Posted by Lycia The Repentant

OK Legion, I'm going to ignore the fact that you're too lazy to read through this thread.

Atheism is wrong because without God, you have no basis for morality. In an existence without God, raping people and killing babies is exactly as moral and just as acting in accordance with Biblical guidelines.

What do you think of that, Godmockers?

Just because you do not know what reasons we have for morals, it doesn't mean we don't have any.

Disclaimer: I do not claim to represent the ideas of every atheist out there.

I believe that, form an evolutionary standpoint, morals would develop naturally. Seeing as I believe we evolved from a common ancestor to apes, I believe that we are indeed animals. Basically:
If we didn't have morals, and did go around raping children and killing each other, we'd all die out pretty soon. Only societies with morals would be able to survive. This is where the monkeys come in. You say that monkeys have no soul, so they must not have morals. If this where true, monkeys would rape their young, and be ripping each others' heads off. Also, if monkeys and animals lacked morals, we'd see NO recognizable traits of positive morality. (positive morality is where an action, rather than a lack of action (lack of action=passive morality), is considered moral). We do, however, see this.

http://www.alertbutnotalarmed.com/im...tos/monkey.jpg

If the monkey had no morals, it would not feed its' young, as it would only loose energy of it's own, with no personal gain.

-Patrik

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by AtheistsUnited

Just because you do not know what reasons we have for morals, it doesn't mean we don't have any.

Disclaimer: I do not claim to represent the ideas of every atheist out there.

I believe that, form an evolutionary standpoint, morals would develop naturally. Seeing as I believe we evolved from a common ancestor to apes, I believe that we are indeed animals. Basically:
If we didn't have morals, and did go around raping children and killing each other, we'd all die out pretty soon. Only societies with morals would be able to survive. This is where the monkeys come in. You say that monkeys have no soul, so they must not have morals. If this where true, monkeys would rape their young, and be ripping each others' heads off. Also, if monkeys and animals lacked morals, we'd see NO recognizable traits of positive morality. (positive morality is where an action, rather than a lack of action (lack of action=passive morality), is considered moral). We do, however, see this.

http://www.alertbutnotalarmed.com/im...tos/monkey.jpg

If the monkey had no morals, it would not feed its' young, as it would only loose energy of it's own, with no personal gain.

-Patrik

My God Mocking Friend,

Your explanation doesn't work; humans rip each others heads off all the time. It's called murder. Now explain to us without the God how we should know the difference a morally right genocide like the Conquest of the Canaanites and a morally wrong one like the Holocaust? What is the difference between Joshua and Hitler?

PS We all know you are lying when you claim you don't believe God exists.

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by AtheistsUnited

If this where true, monkeys would rape their young, and be ripping each others' heads off.

Essay Sample on: Chimpanzee Cannabalism and Infanticide

O really?

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