[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

Moonbat, shmoonbat.
I explained already that the woman in question still had her head PHYSICALLY attached. I'd like to see what would have happened if her head had been completely physically severed from her body. I doubt she'd have lived to tell the tale.

Friend, I think it's time to put your money where your mouth is. First of all, pray to Jesus to protect you, then saw your own head off. If you find yourself in difficulty, you could ask a friendly German to help you. Now, if, with Christ's help, you find yourself able to survive, then you will have no alternative but to admit that we are right and baby-killing is wrong. If you unfortunately happen to die fatally during the experience, then we will reluctantly concede this argument to you. How about that?

[Sista Lateefah]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

Zeke, the baby is already sentenced to death. Why prolong the suffering of the un-baby and it's mother?
It is ALREADY doomed. The same result will be had NO MATTER WHAT. Therefore, why not make it easier?

You're a monster if you think such an extreme abnormality should be carried to term!

Well, Van Hellbound be showin' her true colors once again! Or maybe I should calls her Madame Hitler. Now I knows what form of Godlessness she be dabblin' in... it be that Thool cult stuff them nazis was into.

This be quite typical, you know. Them liebrals is acceptin' of homers, prostitutes, soccer players, cow worshippers, and all sortsa other depraved folk, but the second a little baby about to be born with a mild defo'mity, they wantsa murder it.

Jesus wept. - John 11:35

[Deaner]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

The baby had NO HEAD! NO BRAIN!!

It's Irish. Give it a little booze and it will fit right in.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

Friend, I think it's time to put your money where your mouth is. First of all, pray to Jesus to protect you, then saw your own head off. If you find yourself in difficulty, you could ask a friendly German to help you. Now, if, with Christ's help, you find yourself able to survive, then you will have no alternative but to admit that we are right and baby-killing is wrong. If you unfortunately happen to die fatally during the experience, then we will reluctantly concede this argument to you. How about that?

Well, well, well.
It seems that rather than concede that I'm right about this, you'd actually try and convince me to cut off my own head.
I've got to hand it to you, that just may be the most bizarre xtian argument that I've ever seen.

Well, Van Hellbound be showin' her true colors once again! *snip* irrelevance*

Your views of me, however descriptive, aren't relevant to this argument, I'm afraid.

This be quite typical, you know. Them liebrals is acceptin' of homers, prostitutes, soccer players, cow worshippers, and all sortsa other depraved folk, but the second a little baby about to be born with a mild defo'mity, they wantsa murder it.

It's already as good as dead. It is dead no matter what, unless it miraculously and suddenly develops a head, which, after 19 weeks, I'd seriously doubt.

It's Irish. Give it a little booze and it will fit right in.

Deaner!

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

This baby had NO HEAD! A head cannot come out of nowhere if there is NO ORIGINAL HEAD!!

Not having a head can be a challenge, but we know that with the Lord’s help we'll never be given more than we can handle.

Naturally, the baby will have some problems praying to Jesus and repenting its sins, but this is where intercessory prayers come into play. Landover is going to host a round-the-clock Prayer-A-Thon, where we will take the poor child's situation to the face of God in prayer. I'll personally take charge of the collection for those who cannot afford electronic funds transfer.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Prune Danish

Not having a head can be a challenge, but we know that with the Lord’s help we'll never be given more than we can handle.

Oh really? That *really* <insert sarcasm> explains why so many xtians commit suicide, doesn't it?

Naturally, the baby will some problems praying to Jesus and repenting its sins, but this is where intercessory prayers come into play. Landover is going to host a round-the-clock Prayer-A-Thon, where we will take the poor child's situation to the face of God in prayer. I'll personally take charge of the collection for those who cannot afford electronic funds transfer.

Prune, sweetie, the baby has no head. No head=no brain. No brain=not able to control body function or thought. No thoughts=no praying. No mouth=no praying. Three days to live=even if it did have a head, it wouldn't at that stage be capable of coherent thought anyway.

Sorry, but that isn't a baby. It's an un-life, and to keep it to term would be cruel and devastating to the mother, not to mention extremely inhumane.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

Sorry, but that isn't a baby. It's an un-life, and to keep it to term would be cruel and devastating to the mother, not to mention extremely inhumane.

Friend, if God has chosen to smite the mother in a cruel and devastating fashion, then she must have done something pretty bad to deserve it. Do you have no concept of justice?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

Friend, if God has chosen to smite the mother in a cruel and devastating fashion, then she must have done something pretty bad to deserve it. Do you have no concept of justice?

Yes, and true justice would be allowing that unfortunate unlife to be ended as quickly and humanely as possible.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

Yes, and true justice would be allowing that unfortunate unlife to be ended as quickly and humanely as possible.

If by "allow" you mean wait for Jesus to decide where, when and how to kill this crippled little mick, then we are in agreement.

If by "allow" you mean gather a roomful of joo doctors to murder this poor innocent baby, then turn it over to witches like you to roast and devour at a black mass ceremony, then you are a filthy hellbound pervert.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

I meant neither, Zeke dear.
I meant doctors (religion of which not entering into the picture) carefully removing the foetus without risking the mother, then either giving the little corspe a decent interment or possibly using it for stem cell research.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

I meant neither, Zeke dear.
I meant doctors (religion of which not entering into the picture) carefully removing the foetus without risking the mother, then either giving the little corspe a decent interment or possibly using it for stem cell research.

Oh, so you don't care whether it's dothead or Christ-killer doctors who murder the baby, as long as they turn it over to your homer pals to conduct AIDS research on its corpse afterwards? How "tolerant".

[Deaner]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

Yes, and true justice would be allowing that unfortunate unlife to be ended as quickly and humanely as possible.

Personally I think the little headless Paddy should be interrogated first to discover any hidden ties to the IRA or their wop masters in Rome. I'm really starting to think that this whole thing is just a plot to smuggle illegal irish aliens into England so they can bomb parliament and kill innocent civilians. Those micks can't be trusted.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

Oh, so you don't care whether it's dothead or Christ-killer doctors who murder the baby, as long as they turn it over to your homer pals to conduct AIDS research on its corpse afterwards? How "tolerant".

Did you miss the part where I said DECENT INTERMENT OR stem cell research?

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

I meant neither, Zeke dear.
I meant doctors (religion of which not entering into the picture) carefully removing the foetus without risking the mother, then either giving the little corspe a decent interment or possibly using it for stem cell research.

So you admit that it's alive! Thus, you admit that the doctors and the filthy whore mother are committing murder. Case closed.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Virginia D. Templeton

So you admit that it's alive! Thus, you admit that the doctors and the filthy whore mother are committing murder. Case closed.

It is alive only as a somewhat of a parasite. It can only keep on living with the support of the mother's womb. Outside the womb it is doomed to death. There is absolutely no way that baby could ever, ever survive no matter what happens, unless it suddenly grows a head. And if it hasn't after 5 months, there is, I'd say, no chance that it will. Nor any reason why anyone should want it to. It's alive, yes, but it's an un-life. Different thing to not being alive.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Y'know, you remind me of someone.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Virginia D. Templeton

Y'know, you remind me of someone.

Argh!!!!

Not only is that completely untrue, seeing as I'm the one advocating freedom of choice, but you fundies are the ones who are like Hitler, not me.

Why can't you just admit that you're wrong, dammit?? Every argument in this thread that you try to come up with is utterly pointless, as the baby is doomed to death no matter which way you slice it!

So there.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Actually, we don't slice babies any which way. Do ever think about anything besides kiddie casseroles?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Virginia D. Templeton

Actually, we don't slice babies any which way. Do ever think about anything besides kiddie casseroles?

I didn't mean that kind of slice!
It's an expression! I meant, no matter which way you look at it, the baby is doomed.

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

It is alive only as a somewhat of a parasite. It can only keep on living with the support of the mother's womb. Outside the womb it is doomed to death.

Congratulations. You just gave a perfect description of every woman on this planet.

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

There is absolutely no way that baby could ever, ever survive no matter what happens, unless it suddenly grows a head. And if it hasn't after 5 months, there is, I'd say, no chance that it will. Nor any reason why anyone should want it to. It's alive, yes, but it's an un-life. Different thing to not being alive.

You're forgetting that the doctors said the baby would live for 3 days - and that's only on secular life-support. With Godly life-support (also known as prayers) it could live indefinitely, provided that's what God wants. We don't presume to know God's plans - we just trust them implicitly.

And even three days are plenty for a baby to seek God and let Jesus into its little heart (it does have a heart, right?):

Psalm 22:10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.