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Default To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 02:56 PM

I sincerely do have a prayer request. I request that you pray for your god to give/show me evidence that he exists within this week. If, by the end of this week, I don't receive any, I can only assume that either
  1. god doesn't exist
  2. god can't provide evidence (thus not being an omnipotent god- making the christian faith -among others- false)
  3. god just doesn't want to
Surely, you being "true christians", your god will answer you at least in some way.
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 03:03 PM

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I sincerely do have a prayer request. I request that you pray for your god to give/show me evidence that he exists within this week. If, by the end of this week, I don't receive any, I can only assume that either
  1. god doesn't exist
  2. god can't provide evidence (thus not being an omnipotent god- making the christian faith -among others- false)
  3. god just doesn't want to
Surely, you being "true christians", your god will answer you at least in some way.
Be careful of what you ask for, heathen scum. Jesus may offer you the "proof" you seek up close and personal. Tempting Him has typically met with rather nasty results.

The trouble with hateful scum like you is, you don't recognize the proof of God that is all around you. Go look in the mirror.

The truth is, you have scales on your eyes. And your father is satan.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 03:19 PM

This be the only evidence you is ever gonna need:

KJV1611 Online

Since you is only givin' yoself a week, I'd suggest you get to readin' right away! Thass a lot of material to cover! IF you refuse to read it, then it be obvious that you is not legitimately looking for evidence for GOD, and this topic be nothin' but a troll topic.
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 03:50 PM

And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said,
Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Luke 4:12

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them*; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made,
Even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful;
But became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 1:19-21

*His creations and works.


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A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 04:55 PM

Aaah, see the thing is, I've already read the bible. I was actually looking for some real proof, rather than a document. I could right a few books right now, it could catch on in hundreds of years and become a religion... that's basically my view on the bible. As for the King James version, I hate it. I can't understand a word. Although I do have it, along with NLT, NIV and the message: remix. Undoubtedly you probably disagree with them. Meh.
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 07:16 PM

or... 4) God has better things to do.

If you want to see proof, try praying to Him yourself, instead of asking other people to pray for you ~shrugs~
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 08:11 PM

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Aaah, see the thing is, I've already read the bible. I was actually looking for some real proof, rather than a document. I could right a few books right now, it could catch on in hundreds of years and become a religion... that's basically my view on the bible. As for the King James version, I hate it. I can't understand a word. Although I do have it, along with NLT, NIV and the message: remix. Undoubtedly you probably disagree with them. Meh.
It is not a surprise that you cannot understand the true word of God!
First, you're only a little girl, which makes it hard enough for you to understand anything..

Second, it is because the things of the Spirit of God (Thus the KJV1611 in particular!) cannot be truly understood by non-believers.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:
Neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 2:14

You need the Holy Spirit to guide you, if you are ever to TRULY understand the scriptures.


If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 08:23 PM

The proof of God is in every childs smile and in every sunsets colors. If you need more proof than that then you are simply beyond help.


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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 09:29 PM

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I sincerely do have a prayer request. I request that you pray for your god to give/show me evidence that he exists within this week. If, by the end of this week, I don't receive any, I can only assume that...
3. god just doesn't want to
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And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said,
Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
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Aaah, see the thing is, I've already read the bible. I was actually looking for some real proof, rather than a document.
You're not very bright, are you? SS wasn't trying to give proof that God exists, he was explaining why God doesn't want to. He's not some Tooth Fairy that exists solely for your personal convenience; He has God, and He has no reason to play your silly games.


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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 09:34 PM

I have my Faith In Jesus and believe that God exists.
You know why?

He answers my Prayers each and every morning by not killing me while I sleep.
You should PRAISE THE LORD© HE hasn't decided to kill you yet.

What more proof do you need?



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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 10:34 PM

But you know why bible versions such as the message remix were released? Because they're easier for teens to read. (Oh, I also have a youth bible, forgot). Also have examples of how to use the message in everyday scenarios. I loved them.

Aww, you pray to god not to kill you? That's surprising... I would've thought christians were a-ok with death, what with your promise of heaven. I know I was. I still am. After life = Nothingness.

Umm, yeah, I wasn't referring to that comment, but whatever. I just don't accept a holy book as evidence for a god's existence.

Well, that was my first shot at asking a sincere question...
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 10:43 PM

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But you know why bible versions such as the message remix were released? Because they're easier for teens to read. (Oh, I also have a youth bible, forgot). Also have examples of how to use the message in everyday scenarios. I loved them.
Those books were released by Satan to corrupt and confuse youth by obscuring Christ's true message. Reading a book in slightly archaic language is a small price to pay for eternal life.
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Aww, you pray to god not to kill you? That's surprising... I would've thought christians were a-ok with death, what with your promise of heaven. I know I was. I still am. After life = Nothingness.
Unless you're wrong, of course. In which case you'd have really quite a good reason to fear death. But I suppose there's never been a situation at any point in history where an arrogant 15-year-old girl has ever been wrong about anything, has there?
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Umm, yeah, I wasn't referring to that comment, but whatever. I just don't accept a holy book as evidence for a god's existence.

Well, that was my first shot at asking a sincere question...
Congratulations, keep it up and we'll lead you to Christ in no time.


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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 11:34 PM

Lolz, believe me, there's no chance of me ever becoming a christian... AGAIN.

"Confuse youth"? I get confused by the thees, thys and thous in King James' version.

We're all wrong about something at some stage in our life. But when it comes to religion, there is no fact. It's all opinion, no matter how strongly you believe.

Do you all know about the seven categories people can place their belief in? I'm willing to explain them if you don't. I'm category 6. (Unrelated to my category) I believe it's not wise to place yourself in 1 and 7. As for category 4, you're ALWAYS swaying to a side.
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-07-2007, 11:40 PM

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Lolz, believe me, there's no chance of me ever becoming a christian... AGAIN.
If you ever were truly Christian, then I suppose that's true... Hebrews 6:3-6 does make it very clear that you don't get a second chance. However, since you were never a real Christian in the first place, I think you're in with a shot.
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"Confuse youth"? I get confused by the thees, thys and thous in King James' version.
Yes, but at least it's not full of lies.
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We're all wrong about something at some stage in our life. But when it comes to religion, there is no fact. It's all opinion, no matter how strongly you believe.
Incorrect. God created the world, and that's a fact.
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Do you all know about the seven categories people can place their belief in? I'm willing to explain them if you don't. I'm category 6. (Unrelated to my category) I believe it's not wise to place yourself in 1 and 7. As for category 4, you're ALWAYS swaying to a side.
I know about the only two categories anyone needs to know about: Saved and hellbound.


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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-08-2007, 12:14 AM

Well just to erm, increase, your knowledge:

Category 1: Strong theist. 100% probability of god. As CG Jung puts it, "I do not believe, I KNOW"

2: Very high prob, short of 100%.

3: Higher than50%, but not that high. Technically agnostic, but leaning towards theism.

4. Exactly 50%... Completely impartial agnostic...?

5: Lower than 50%, but not that low. Technically agnostic, but leaning towards atheism.

6: Very low, short of 0%. (Here I am. Don't know for certain that there is no god, but I live my life like there is none).

7: 0% probability of a god. Opposite view of C G Jung- you don't believe there is no god, you KNOW there is no god.
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-08-2007, 12:19 AM

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3: Higher than50%, but not that high. Technically agnostic, but leaning towards theism.
I think I'd be a 3. Somewhere in between 2 and 3 maybe. 75% maybe?
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-08-2007, 12:35 AM

Here are a few air-tight reasons for why Christianity is right and is the only valid religion.

- Most people in America are Christians
- Christianity has been a religion for 2000 years
- When I am scared or sad and I pray to God it comforts me, proving that he exists

I DARE you to refute any of these facts, as they prove without a shadow of a doubt that Christianity is 100% correct.
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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-08-2007, 12:56 AM

You "DARE" me? You don't need to. They are NOT reasons why christianity is true. They're just some facts on your christian faith!

-Islam is the worlds fatest growing religion.
-Judaism has been around for over 5000 years
-when I'm scared or sad I talk to a friend- is it that you don't have any friends?

I at least expected you to use the ontological, cosmological, teleological and moral arguments for a god.
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You "DARE" me? You don't need to. They are NOT reasons why christianity is true. They're just some facts on your christian faith!

-Islam is the worlds fatest growing religion.
-Judaism has been around for over 5000 years
-when I'm scared or sad I talk to a friend- is it that you don't have any friends?

I at least expected you to use the ontological, cosmological, teleological and moral arguments for a god.
First of all, Islam is the worlds largest religious infection and God bless George W. Bush for administering the cure in the form of hundreds of dead Muslims daily. Islam will fail because it is asinine and doesn't make any sense. It is hateful and Jesus will rid the planet of this blight on Judgment day. Praise Jesus!

Secondly, Jesus was sent to the Cross by Jews so that shows how much THAT religion loves God doesn't it? Jews are in violation of Christs wishes so they are going to Hell almost as fast as Muslims.

Thirdly, Jesus is my friend. He is Washs friend and He wants to be YOUR friend if you would just abandon the gay lifestyle, the drugs and the Atheism and merely accept Him as your personal Lord and Saviour like a normal person. Don't you want to go to Heaven when He kills you?

Lastly, spellcheck is free. Use it.


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Default Re: To all "true christians" - 04-08-2007, 12:07 PM

"First of all, Islam is the worlds largest religious infection and God bless George W. Bush for administering the cure in the form of hundreds of dead Muslims daily. Islam will fail because it is asinine and doesn't make any sense. It is hateful and Jesus will rid the planet of this blight on Judgment day. Praise Jesus!"

Doesn't make sense, or you can't understand it?
Hmm, I'll respond to this by a quote from Friedrich Nietzsche:
"I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct for revenge for which no expedient is sufficiently poisonous, secret, subterranean, petty — I call it the one immortal blemish of mankind."
Yeah, people have always had views on Christianity as well.

"He is Washs friend and He wants to be YOUR friend if you would just abandon the gay lifestyle, the drugs and the Atheism and merely accept Him as your personal Lord and Saviour like a normal person. Don't you want to go to Heaven when He kills you?Lastly, spellcheck is free. Use it."

1. I don't have a "gay lifestyle" for me to abandon
2. The only drugs I use are those perscribed for my hayfever (since I was 4)
3. The Atheism's staying
4. No
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