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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 03:45 PM

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If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer.
So, some kind of homo Freemason code, in other words?


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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 04:03 PM

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So, some kind of homo Freemason code, in other words?

It has nothing to do with homosexuality, freemasonry, or any sort of code. A man that is secure in his own masculinity does not get his hackles up around strong women. And a man who is secure in his own masculinity knows this without having to ask.
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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 04:09 PM

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It has nothing to do with homosexuality, freemasonry, or any sort of code. A man that is secure in his own masculinity does not get his hackles up around strong women. And a man who is secure in his own masculinity knows this without having to ask.
I don't "get my hackles up"; I just slap sense into them. There's a difference.


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 04:18 PM

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I don't "get my hackles up"; I just slap sense into them. There's a difference.

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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 04:25 PM

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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 04:36 PM

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Real men don't need to act violently to prove their strength.
So if real men don't act violently, and sissy liberal girly-men can't act violently, then how is one supposed to tell the two apart?


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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 06:15 PM

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So if real men don't act violently, and sissy liberal girly-men can't act violently, then how is one supposed to tell the two apart?

Why do you find violence necessary in a relationship?
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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 08:37 PM

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That's absurd. Violence is not necessary to a strong relationship.

My wife Delores and I have been married for 29 years now, and we have never EVER threatened or even THOUGHT about violence. Humiliation, yes, we have plenty of that. But no violence.
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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-23-2007, 10:01 PM

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That's absurd. Violence is not necessary to a strong relationship.

My wife Delores and I have been married for 29 years now, and we have never EVER threatened or even THOUGHT about violence. Humiliation, yes, we have plenty of that. But no violence.
Humiliation is violence against the mind and spirit. Why humiliate each other? Why not treat each other with mutual respect?
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Humiliation is violence against the mind and spirit. Why humiliate each other? Why not treat each other with mutual respect?
I believe you misunderstood Brother Montague; his wife Delores does not humiliate him. Were ever did you get that idea? Further more you keep on ignoring the point we have been making that since we love and respect our wives we treat them as God commands us to. That is why for example when Mss Worthington gets to gossipy or nags you can be sure Brother Montague makes sure she is wearing her shrew’s head costume to Church next Sunday so she learns to not give into sin like that.

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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-24-2007, 12:29 AM

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I believe you misunderstood Brother Montague; his wife Delores does not humiliate him. Were ever did you get that idea? Further more you keep on ignoring the point we have been making that since we love and respect our wives we treat them as God commands us to. That is why for example when Mss Worthington gets to gossipy or nags you can be sure Brother Montague makes sure she is wearing her shrew’s head costume to Church next Sunday so she learns to not give into sin like that.

I hope you are not suggesting God is wrong Phoenix.

I am saying that it is wrong for either spouse to humiliate the other.
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I'm sorry but I have to agree with phoenix. Verable abuse on either part of the couple is not good. It can sometimes be worse than beating a person. With most beatings the wounds will heal but with verbal abouse the wound never really heals. Its always there at the back of ones mind and the realtionship in turn goes down hill from there.

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If words prevent the spouse from going to Hell they are needed. Hellfire is the one wound that never heals.


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I'm sorry but I have to agree with phoenix. Verable abuse on either part of the couple is not good. It can sometimes be worse than beating a person. With most beatings the wounds will heal but with verbal abouse the wound never really heals. Its always there at the back of ones mind and the realtionship in turn goes down hill from there.

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My wife Delores and I are very happy. We've been together for 29 blissful years. We have learned that in order to make a relationship work, there has got to be some give and take, cooperation, and compromise. For instance, I am not a fan of pot luck dinners, but Delores enjoys it when I accompany her to church for the pot luck nights every third Thursday. Conversely, I enjoy putting Delores on a leash while she eats dinner from her dog bowl on the kitchen floor.
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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-24-2007, 03:27 PM

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My wife Delores and I are very happy. We've been together for 29 blissful years. We have learned that in order to make a relationship work, there has got to be some give and take, cooperation, and compromise. For instance, I am not a fan of pot luck dinners, but Delores enjoys it when I accompany her to church for the pot luck nights every third Thursday. Conversely, I enjoy putting Delores on a leash while she eats dinner from her dog bowl on the kitchen floor.

Asking you to accompany her to a pot-luck dinner sends the message that she enjoys your company.

Making her eat off the floor sends her the message that you consider her an animal.

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Asking you to accompany her to a pot-luck dinner sends the message that she enjoys your company.

Making her eat off the floor sends her the message that you consider her an animal.

Some compromise.
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I am curious of your disproval of Brother Montague's marriage; as he as said him and Delores have been married 29 years. Can you claim such a successful marriage with your liberal touchy feely philosophy? My impression of most marriages today is they are lucky to last 10 years.



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Default Re: Women and Their Place!! - 04-24-2007, 05:05 PM

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I am curious of your disproval of Brother Montague's marriage; as he as said him and Delores have been married 29 years. Can you claim such a successful marriage with your liberal touchy feely philosophy? My impression of most marriages today is they are lucky to last 10 years.

I'm a newlywed - I'll get back to you in 29 years and let you know how we're doing. But I can tell you that I would never marry someone who expected me to eat from a dog dish on the floor.
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I'm a newlywed
And how many times have you been married before?


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And how many times have you been married before?
I divorced my first husband after I found lipstick on his underpants that wasn't my shade.
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I divorced my first husband after I found lipstick on his underpants that wasn't my shade.
And how long did that marriage last?
And what age are you?


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