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Dutch rider: is it gay? -
07-20-2018, 07:19 AM
Brothers, I have an urgent question from an American friend. Apparently, a few nights ago, he reached an emotional low after having to abandon his property in Thailand (for unproven charges) and to travel to France on a different passport in the trunk of a taxi. All very standard stuff. Anyway, my point is, the other night he was persuaded to engage in something all members living in the EU are used to performing on a daily basis but that may be unbecoming of a True American Christian. Due to his weakened condition he succumbed to the Dutch Rider maneuver.
My friend was assured that there are sufficient degrees of separation involved that it does not make him gay but in the light of day I'm not so sure. I'd appreciate your reassurances for my friend that he is still welcome at Christian events and also, for my friend, the location any private Christian meet-and-greets in Europe (yacht or chateau preferred). Can travel.
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Re: Dutch rider: is it gay? -
07-20-2018, 11:20 AM
This sounds similar to when your lady friend is pleasuring herself and she asks you to help. Not that I have ever done this.
The only reason I could see you needing a man to help me do this would be if I was physically incapable of doing it myself. Not that I do that kind of thing anyway.
May you be a blessing to every life you touch.
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Re: Dutch rider: is it gay? -
07-20-2018, 12:05 PM
I find having a Dutch Rider to be unpleasant. While it is nice to have a hand on a long haul, I am not some whinny joo :joo' that needs help. If I am going to have a 'buddy', I much prefer a young man, wide eyed, an apprentice if you will, to whom I can show my rope. To fill a young man with new experiences is one of the tasks God has seen fit to give me.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Dutch rider: is it gay? -
07-20-2018, 05:30 PM
As usual, we have to turn to the Bible to see the answer.
Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
So first question: Is it necesary for a Dutch Rider to be lying? Do your friend does it as well with women?
I think standing up or seating are secure positions to not be breaking any commandement.
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
Same as before. Lying is the key.
1 Corinthians Chapter 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
So, if you do the Dutch in a non effeminate way, you are ok. The key here is not to be a pansie while performing the act. Let's say, if you add some talking about sports, I think you are ok.
1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
So as long as you have a wife, you are not in fornication. If you have a wife and the scene you painted in the OP happens, still nothing to worry about.
Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
(Digressio, I LOVE how there is a "natural use" of the woman. SEE FEMINAZIS, USE OF THE WOMAN = OBJECT. GOD SAID IT NOT ME)
Here we can add something else: the problem is the lust. As long as the act is performed with no lust, so more like a mechanical act, then is ok.
So far, so good. I can be Biblically sure that the Dutch Rider is not again all the multiple anti-gay warnings on the Bible.
But, and there is always a but, what happens with the seed? IT DOES NOT HAVE TO TOUCH THE GROUND.
Genesis 38:9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
Please be very careful with this last part. It is very important. Maybe some plastic on the floor can avoid being commiting an involuntary sin and ending up in Hell.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.
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Re: Dutch rider: is it gay? -
07-21-2018, 08:13 PM
See that title? "Dutch rider: is it gay?"
Can you think of anything that is (a) Dutch and (b) not gay?
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Re: Dutch rider: is it gay? -
07-25-2018, 04:51 PM
I was taught as a young boy by my Bible teacher (Pastor Barnabas Flint,. our beloveds Ezekiel's cousin) that going Dutch was the same as masturbation and it was self serving. In the Bible, we are taught to give our fellow man a hand and relieve him of his burden.
Revelation 3:20
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
I'd like to make a prayer to God now, and lay prostate before Him and beg for Him to come unto me.
Luke 6:38
38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Dutch rider: is it gay? -
07-29-2018, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole
Brothers, I have an urgent question from an American friend. Apparently, a few nights ago, he reached an emotional low after having to abandon his property in Thailand (for unproven charges) and to travel to France on a different passport in the trunk of a taxi. All very standard stuff. Anyway, my point is, the other night he was persuaded to engage in something all members living in the EU are used to performing on a daily basis but that may be unbecoming of a True American Christian. Due to his weakened condition he succumbed to the Dutch Rider maneuver.
My friend was assured that there are sufficient degrees of separation involved that it does not make him gay but in the light of day I'm not so sure. I'd appreciate your reassurances for my friend that he is still welcome at Christian events and also, for my friend, the location any private Christian meet-and-greets in Europe (yacht or chateau preferred). Can travel.
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My Dear Brother in Jesus:
It is well known that I have been blessed with a special love for homers and I have often attended their get-togethers and celebrations. I have wandered into the seediest of bars and enjoyed the sunshine of Key West and San Francisco. I have wandered the streets of Lima, Caracas, and Rio Speedwagon. In each of these places, I have, for educational purposes, observed their traditions, getting up close and personal to the action.
I may assure you that this "Dutch Rider" is a rare thing, even amongst those of Europe. In most cases, one's "partner" is brought to completion by mutual Onanism (May God forgive each one) through direct contact of the hand or other parts of the body, rather than simply touching the arm of the fellow while enacting the Onanistic movement. I would be more than happy to have this demonstrated for you.
Therefore your friend is just fine. He retains the Blood of Jesus over sin, and will one day sup with Christ in Glory. I hope this brings comfort.
In love and concern,
BrotherLarry
Proverbs 21:31 KJV 1611:
“The horse is prepared against the day of battell: but safetie is of the Lord.”
Lord, may I serve my equine brothers and sisters just as I do my fellow man. Amen and Amen
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Re: Dutch rider: is it gay? -
07-30-2018, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BrotherLarry
My Dear Brother in Jesus:
It is well known that I have been blessed with a special love for homers and I have often attended their get-togethers and celebrations. I have wandered into the seediest of bars and enjoyed the sunshine of Key West and San Francisco. I have wandered the streets of Lima, Caracas, and Rio Speedwagon. In each of these places, I have, for educational purposes, observed their traditions, getting up close and personal to the action.
I may assure you that this "Dutch Rider" is a rare thing, even amongst those of Europe. In most cases, one's "partner" is brought to completion by mutual Onanism (May God forgive each one) through direct contact of the hand or other parts of the body, rather than simply touching the arm of the fellow while enacting the Onanistic movement. I would be more than happy to have this demonstrated for you.
Therefore your friend is just fine. He retains the Blood of Jesus over sin, and will one day sup with Christ in Glory. I hope this brings comfort.
In love and concern,
BrotherLarry
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What a brave and wonderful man you are, Brother Larry! Your future wife will be the happiest woman on earth!
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