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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-20-2012, 08:58 AM

Methuselah was one individual, not everyone. The average lifespan a couple hundred years ago was about 40 and was that way for a significant time.
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-20-2012, 10:49 PM

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Methuselah was one individual, not everyone. The average lifespan a couple hundred years ago was about 40 and was that way for a significant time.
Do you believe everything you see written in books? Or do you have some sort of time machine and a census-gathering kit?



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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-21-2012, 02:33 AM

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Methuselah was one individual, not everyone. The average lifespan a couple hundred years ago was about 40 and was that way for a significant time.
That's because of sin, pal.


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-21-2012, 07:33 PM

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That's because of sin, pal.
So, if that is in fact true, does that then mean that we're less sinful today than we were back then? There was a greater percentage of the population a couple hundred years ago who were religious than there are today, so I don't think I understand the parallel you're trying to suggest there as it doesn't make any sense.

However, through scientific discovery, people have been able to help cure cancers and certain diseases. We can now look for genetic markers of hereditary diseases so you can get an idea if you may have that particular disease sometime in the future as well. It's the understanding of physics and chemistry that have helped us live longer.

Though, yes the statement "cleanliness is next to Godliness", is a good statement when it was first made (though I don't actually know where it comes from off the top of my head) because cleanliness is the best way to protect against viruses, diseases, and other illnesses.
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-21-2012, 07:36 PM

????????? Jesus was curing lepers 1980 years ago!


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-21-2012, 08:40 PM

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So, if that is in fact true, does that then mean that we're less sinful today than we were back then? There was a greater percentage of the population a couple hundred years ago who were religious than there are today, so I don't think I understand the parallel you're trying to suggest there as it doesn't make any sense.

However, through scientific discovery, people have been able to help cure cancers and certain diseases. We can now look for genetic markers of hereditary diseases so you can get an idea if you may have that particular disease sometime in the future as well. It's the understanding of physics and chemistry that have helped us live longer.

Though, yes the statement "cleanliness is next to Godliness", is a good statement when it was first made (though I don't actually know where it comes from off the top of my head) because cleanliness is the best way to protect against viruses, diseases, and other illnesses.
Are you asking us to explain God's motivations?
Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Ecclesiastes 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-21-2012, 11:11 PM

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So, if that is in fact true, does that then mean that we're less sinful today than we were back then? There was a greater percentage of the population a couple hundred years ago who were religious than there are today, so I don't think I understand the parallel you're trying to suggest there as it doesn't make any sense.
It's obvious to me that you lack Christian Discernment, otherwise I wouldn't have to explain everything to you as if you wee a retarded child.

EVERYONE used to be Godly, so they lived for hundreds of years. Over time folks got less Godly, so they started living only 50 years or so. Now that Landover Baptist Church has been established for 400 years, people are becoming MORE Godly, and thus God has us living longer. Duh.

I wouldn't be surprised if God has me live another 2 or 3 hundred years. Shout Glory!


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-21-2012, 11:25 PM

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We can now look for genetic markers of hereditary diseases so you can get an idea if you may have that particular disease sometime in the future as well. It's the understanding of physics and chemistry that have helped us live longer.
And what did that lead to? Every baby that has a "chance of a hereditary disease" is now murdered before it's even born. I suspect gay cults are behind it and that they found a genetic marker for queersexuality, that they use to drive parents to abort non-homersexual children with threats of that the kid will get sick once when it's born.

Gay cults already cost me a leg, they're not going to take my children too.

I mean, if Jesus wants, he can cure all of those hereditary diseases anyway, so why let a doctor look at them?

Matthew 4:24:
24And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-23-2012, 02:47 PM

This video could not have said it any better, thanks for posting!

I love when an Atheist tries to explain how the earth is millions of years old. For proof he goes on and on and on in elaborate detail of how scientist can date rocks, how evolution is real due to matching DNA structures in various animals, etc, etc.

All I have do so is open my Bible (which is with me at all times) and show him MY proof by pointing right at the words of the Lord printed there in black in white.

Their counter is something along the lines of "Well those are just words! Its no different them opening a mother goose book and saying The Three Little Bears were Real! Give me physical proof!"

I end the conversation right there by angrily warning them that they are on the path to Hell and that Jesus is their savior.

The fact that they walk away laughing - sometimes hysterically - just goes to show how insane and deluded Atheists are.


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-28-2012, 01:36 AM

If God gave man free will, and this free will lead us to not believe in God, then why would he damn me to hell for something he has clearly caused?

If you're going to say, "Because he is testing us.". God is Omnipotent. He knows everything. That means before even your life begins, God knows the outcome of your test if your going to succeed or fail.

-- And phhsfft why does he need to create a forever suffer when one does not pass his test. That's total bullshit, he could have just let the sinful not enter heaven. Is that what you call All-Loving? >.<"
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-28-2012, 01:42 AM

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If God gave man free will, and this free will lead us to not believe in God, then why would he damn me to hell for something he has clearly caused?
He's not damning you to Hell. You're choosing to not take his loophole and avoid it. That's your choice. A stupid and painful one, but yours nonetheless.

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If you're going to say, "Because he is testing us.". God is Omnipotent. He knows everything. That means before even your life begins, God knows the outcome of your test if your going to succeed or fail.
If I'm going to say, "Why don't you read the Holy Bible or at least do a search around here so you don't waste God's holy bandwidth," would you do so?

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-- And phhsfft why does he need to create a forever suffer when one does not pass his test. That's total bullshit, he could have just let the sinful not enter heaven. Is that what you call All-Loving? >.<"
See, if you'd read your Holy Bible, you would know God isn't "All-Loving." That's a 1970's Jesus-Freak kind of belief. We're not hippies here, just honest Bible-believing True Christians™.



Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 03-28-2012, 02:45 AM

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If God gave man free will, and this free will lead us to not believe in God, then why would he damn me to hell for something he has clearly caused?

If you're going to say, "Because he is testing us.". God is Omnipotent. He knows everything. That means before even your life begins, God knows the outcome of your test if your going to succeed or fail.

-- And phhsfft why does he need to create a forever suffer when one does not pass his test. That's total bullshit, he could have just let the sinful not enter heaven. Is that what you call All-Loving? >.<"
First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 04-16-2012, 03:14 AM

Ezekiel, you're a bible droid.

Its sad you people are spending this entire life worrying about the next one.

and the video PROVES NOTHING.


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 04-16-2012, 03:55 AM

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Ezekiel, you're a bible droid.

Its sad you people are spending this entire life worrying about the next one.

and the video PROVES NOTHING.
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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I appreciate the reply, though I must say that I do not personally idealize drugs nor do I force the gay deathstyle on anyone either as I'm not gay. And I am a libertarian because I believe in individual freedom and make their own choices rather than having the government decide everything for you. Which is happening more and more these days.

Though the Bible has many things in it, most of the modern amenities that we have today has come from science and technology derived from technology. We wouldn't have computers to write on this forum without it. We wouldn't have cars, or Air conditioning. We've doubled the life expectancy of people through the application of science.

The Bible is wonderful for spiritual guidance, but science definitely has it's place in the world. As most of the things we have and use today is derived from science.

You are a libertarian because you believe all sorts of liberal lies. We don't worry about government deciding things for us, because we allow the Lord to decide things for us. Once we True Conservatives ™ elect like minded people, then the government will be empowered to run this country according to Biblical standards.

And God in His Word commands us to do a lot more than sit around being spiritual all day. He tells us how we are to live our lives,--public and private-- in the way that is pleasing to Him.

Science spends most of its time trying to prove that God doesn't exist or that the things that He tells us through His Revealed Word in Holy Scripture are not true. The more that you depend on science, the less that you depend on the Lord.


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 04-29-2012, 07:37 AM

Apologies for taking a while to respond to this. Didn't notice the new page. But I did want to comment that Liberalism and Libertarianism are two different things. Granted, there are some similarities, but ultimately, liberalism is based on a social movement for equal rights and opportunities. Which now a day tends to be a bit different than the original goals. Either way, that's just a tangent thought. The problem is that currently, the governement 'does' in fact control a lot of what I and even you can do in this country. It's call 'Rule of Law'. We have a system of laws that we all must uphold to.

And to be frank, no religious ideal should control the government otherwise we'll be back in the same place we were in the late 1600's when people first game to this country (before it was a country). The country was founded on religious freedom because of the persecution of many people going on at the time in England.

And also, just so you know, science is not 'mostly' trying to prove that God doesn't exist because it's not something science can just prove. Christianity is a religious belief. One cannot simply prove a belief like that using science. Where people argue certain points is where science and religion may disagree with certain aspects of the universe.

I can't really say whether science does or does not increase or decrease the reliance on God to explain things. I have no statistical analysis of that offhand. However, the main point of science is to try and find the truth of something by using testable hypotheses that can have repeatable results or at least a great deal of evidence that gives credence to the hypothesis.


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 04-29-2012, 09:13 AM

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Apologies for taking a while to respond to this. Didn't notice the new page. But I did want to comment that Liberalism and Libertarianism are two different things. Granted, there are some similarities, but ultimately, liberalism is based on a social movement for equal rights and opportunities. Which now a day tends to be a bit different than the original goals. Either way, that's just a tangent thought. The problem is that currently, the governement 'does' in fact control a lot of what I and even you can do in this country. It's call 'Rule of Law'. We have a system of laws that we all must uphold to.

And to be frank, no religious ideal should control the government otherwise we'll be back in the same place we were in the late 1600's when people first game to this country (before it was a country). The country was founded on religious freedom because of the persecution of many people going on at the time in England.

And also, just so you know, science is not 'mostly' trying to prove that God doesn't exist because it's not something science can just prove. Christianity is a religious belief. One cannot simply prove a belief like that using science. Where people argue certain points is where science and religion may disagree with certain aspects of the universe.

I can't really say whether science does or does not increase or decrease the reliance on God to explain things. I have no statistical analysis of that offhand. However, the main point of science is to try and find the truth of something by using testable hypotheses that can have repeatable results or at least a great deal of evidence that gives credence to the hypothesis.
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Why are you trying to force your "science" on everyone? The First Amendment GUARANTEES my right to a Christian environment, and you are simply trying to ruin it!



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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 04-29-2012, 09:17 AM

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Dead right!

Creation science and the Design Inference is well on the way to proofing once and for all that the Designer is real.

You only need to look to the Discovery Institute to see all the creation science research going on.

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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 04-30-2012, 09:10 PM

I'm not honestly a Jesus hater. Though I will probably not change your mind otherwise. I'm not trying to 'force' science on anyone. I'm simply trying to answer replies I've received that are giving characteristics of science that are simply untrue. And the first amendment doesn't give you a right to a 'Christian environment'. It does however make it clear for there to be no established religion by the government and for you to be able to practice your religion freely. You are quite free to have your belief just as I am free to have my own as well, though I know you disagree with it if is anything but the literal words of the Bible. Even though it was not originally written in English. So, you're still going off of a translation of previous versions of the Bible anyways.

"Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The issue with Creation Science is that it is not a science. Creation by a creator is mostly based in belief, which cannot be tested nor proven through science. If there is direct evidence to lend the idea support that does not require simple belief, I have yet to see it. It you would be willing to provide such, I will certainly take a look. I am not saying that Creation cannot be true, but that it is simply not science


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