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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-13-2010, 03:30 AM

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Almost 6 million? These are awfully liebral figures, Lisa. These figures come from fabricated Soviet documents primarily from Ilya Ehrenburg's "Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee" (though we know 'Jewish' and 'Anti-Fascist' contradict eachother), and are therefore unreliable. Does anyone know where I can find legit, non-liebral Holohoax figures?
Did you not read the entire post. The figures show more non Jews were killed in the holocaust.


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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-13-2010, 04:07 AM

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Did you not read the entire post. The figures show more non Jews were killed in the holocaust.
The point is that there were far fewer Juice who were killed than is propagated by the liberal media, making non-Juice even more disproportionately the true victims of the Holocaust.
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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-13-2010, 04:16 AM

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The point is that there were far fewer Juice who were killed than is propagated by the liberal media, making non-Juice even more disproportionately the true victims of the Holocaust.
I think you are missing the point. This thread is about the Jews stealing the word holocaust. The figures I supplied came from a American website. Also do not forget the NAZI's also numbered and cataloged the Jews caught and exterminated. The figure was taken from the NAZI's own records.


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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-13-2010, 04:30 AM

People believe in crazy things like the Holocaust and they see movies and assume its real. I notice people didnt start talking about the holocaust until they had some play and book years ago the Diary of Anne Frank and then Steven Spielberg made Schindler's List and it won all these academy awards and got real famous and all these people watched it. Hollywood always exaggerates things in films because it makes movies more dramatic or frightening. The holocaust is no exception.

Remember when Psycho came out and people were afraid to take showers? Or when Jaws came out beaches actually saw less people coming? Oh lets not forget the famous Orson Bean War of the Worlds radio broadcast where he said the Martians have landed and he made it sound realistic and all these people panicked and there was a riot and mass hysteria and tens of thousands of people died?

Its the same principle at work here.




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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-13-2010, 04:34 AM

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I think you are missing the point. This thread is about the Jews stealing the word holocaust. The figures I supplied came from a American website. Also do not forget the NAZI's also numbered and cataloged the Jews caught and exterminated. The figure was taken from the NAZI's own records.
Do explain to me how you're so sure these figures come from Nazi documents and were not forged by the Joo-loving Soviets. There are many, many issues with the figure; it strikes me as impossible for so many in such a short time. The global population of Juice did not decrease significantly during the Nazi era, thus pretty objectively refuting them to be major victims. The worldwide population of Jews decreased by about 50,000 between 1938 and 1947 according to the World Almanac.

If the ~20 million overall deaths figure is correct, then only about 50,000 were Juice. The term "Holocaust" belongs to non-Jews almost completely.
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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-13-2010, 05:10 AM

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Do explain to me how you're so sure these figures come from Nazi documents and were not forged by the Joo-loving Soviets. There are many, many issues with the figure; it strikes me as impossible for so many in such a short time. The global population of Juice did not decrease significantly during the Nazi era, thus pretty objectively refuting them to be major victims. The worldwide population of Jews decreased by about 50,000 between 1938 and 1947 according to the World Almanac.

If the ~20 million overall deaths figure is correct, then only about 50,000 were Juice. The term "Holocaust" belongs to non-Jews almost completely.
Before this thread gets derailed even further, I researched the word holocaust and it comes from the Greek word holókaustos. With the meaning hólos, "whole" and kaustós, "burnt").

While the Soviets were communist at the time, they to suffered mass extermination from the NAZI's, especially at the beginning of the NAZI/Russian war. As to weather they were Jew Loving or not I do not know. They had their own problems fighting the NAZI's without the burden of Jews. I do know many Jews fled around Non German occupied Europe and to the US. So fleeing to Russia would not be a good move for them.

I presented those figures I found, take them as you will. Either way it still proves the Jews do not own the word holocaust.


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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-13-2010, 11:51 AM

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and then Steven Spielberg made Schindler's List and it won all these academy awards and got real famous and all these people watched it. Hollywood always exaggerates things in films because it makes movies more dramatic or frightening. The holocaust is no exception.
90% of the directors in Hollywood are Jooish. So of course they are going to embellish the hollycaust.
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The Holocaust, to the extent that it did happen, was an act of self-defense on the part of the Germans. The German Jews had been plotting against the government and the people of Germany for years. They were like vampires, sucking at the economy, stockpiling all the currency in their basements. Germany was practically at the mercy of the Jews. It's a wonder they were able to commit the Holocaust and save themselves from destruction.


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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-19-2010, 02:36 PM

Christains love to use personal example about the works of god. Especialy the stories of being physicaly saved from certain death through the intervention of god/JC/holyspirit.

Hitler, during his stint as german leader, had at least 17 attempts at ending his life. As we know they all failed and his life did not end till he took it himself.

We also know Hitler was a christain and he said as much in his book "Mien Kampf"

So...

Does this mean god wanted him to do what he did?
Did god want the holocaust?


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Default Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" - 08-19-2010, 06:19 PM

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Christains love to use personal example about the works of god. Especialy the stories of being physicaly saved from certain death through the intervention of god/JC/holyspirit.

Hitler, during his stint as german leader, had at least 17 attempts at ending his life. As we know they all failed and his life did not end till he took it himself.

We also know Hitler was a christain and he said as much in his book "Mien Kampf"

So...

Does this mean god wanted him to do what he did?
Did god want the holocaust?
It's all part of His plan (although it should be noted that Hitler was a Catholic, not a Christian). Maybe it was a sign of His love for the Jews, that He wanted them to have their country back and knew that would only happen if something happened to make everyone feel sorry for them.


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It's all part of His plan (although it should be noted that Hitler was a Catholic, not a Christian). Maybe it was a sign of His love for the Jews, that He wanted them to have their country back and knew that would only happen if something happened to make everyone feel sorry for them.
Sorry about the catholic/christian confusion, but to us Atheists you monotheists all look alike...


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