[Brother Temperance]

Re: Catholics

May the Blessed Virgin have mercy on your soul. Amen.

That's an odd way to talk about Jesus. Besides, He got His mum preggers with Himself, so He wasn't really a virgin.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Catholics

I wrote a post describing what you must do to be saved: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=27762

Thank you for pointing that thread out to me. I missed it earlier. I moved it to "False Religions and Cults" where it belongs.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[James Peter]

Re: Catholics

That's an odd way to talk about Jesus. Besides, He got His mum preggers with Himself, so He wasn't really a virgin.

You Protestant stooge, I was clearly referring to Mary, to whom the title Blessed Virgin is traditionally applied.

And suggesting Jesus wasn't a virgin is blasphemy on high!!! Who are you, Dan Brown?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Catholics

You Protestant stooge, I was clearly referring to Mary, to whom the title Blessed Virgin is traditionally applied.

And suggesting Jesus wasn't a virgin is blasphemy on high!!! Who are you, Dan Brown?

You appeal for someone else to do Jesus' job for Him, then call me a blasphemer? Who are you, Bizarro?

[James Peter]

Re: Catholics

Haven't you read the story of the wedding feast of Cana? Jesus wasn't going to do anything to help the wedding get more wine until Mary took pity on them and asked Jesus to help. Hopefully, Mary will have pity on you and ask Jesus to save you.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Catholics

No thanks, idolater.

Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

[James Peter]

Re: Catholics

http://www.catholic.com/library/Praying_to_the_Saints.asp

In Heaven and On Earth


The Bible directs us to invoke those in heaven and ask them to pray with us. Thus in Psalms 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hearkening to the voice of his word! Bless the Lord, all his hosts, his ministers that do his will!" (Ps. 103:20-21). And in Psalms 148 we pray, "Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his host!" (Ps. 148:1-2).

Not only do those in heaven pray with us, they also pray for us. In the book of Revelation, we read: "[An] angel came and stood at the altar [in heaven] with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God" (Rev. 8:3-4).

And those in heaven who offer to God our prayers aren’t just angels, but humans as well. John sees that "the twenty-four elders [the leaders of the people of God in heaven] fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints" (Rev. 5:8). The simple fact is, as this passage shows: The saints in heaven offer to God the prayers of the saints on earth.

[LoveThatGod]

Re: Catholics

Try explaining that to God as He dropkicks you into the Lake of Fire for all eternity for being a tightwad, friend. Are you a Scottish Presbyterian, by any chance?

At least I'm not a former Jesus-killer. Try explaining that one to God.

No, I'm actually Norwegian Presbyterian. We believe that the Norwegian Presbyterians, along with the Dutch Catholics, were actually the first Christians. There is a little known text known as the NDCW (Norwegian/Dutch Christian Writings) that pretty much proves this to be true. Hence why I'm defending Catholics.

[James Peter]

Re: Catholics

Excuse me, you Protestant stooge, but our two church have nothing in common. Actually, since you are not Catholic, you have no right to call yourself Christian. We don't need help your help, we have God on our side.

May I suggest you change your user name to the more accurate: "IHateGodAndSpitInHisHolyFace" ?

[Oakland "Reb" Griner]

Re: Catholics

Hello, actual Catholic here and I wanted to put my opinion on the table.

Firstly, "LoveThatGod", I thank you for helping to defend the one True Church, Roman Catholicism.

Secondly, I have to say I disagree with your user name. You do NOT love God, if you did you would not be an evil Presbyterian. Protestants are NOT Christians (as can be read in another topic I made, here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=27731 )

You are destined into the eternal bowels of hell, along with all these Landover nutcases, unless you quickly repent of your religion (which makes you a half-atheist), and be saved through the Mother Church.

I wrote a post describing what you must do to be saved: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=27762

May the Blessed Virgin have mercy on your soul. Amen.

It occurs to me that any Catholic sent here would not be just your run of the mill ordinary Catholic. This after all, is Landover Baptist, the 'Big League' for the Catholic spoor!

What we have here is some kind of Papal emissary.

I bet it's fetid and cavernous colon is full of Pope semen right now !!!!

[David Goldman]

Re: Catholics

I just think it's funny that Catholicism are considered a "False Religion" when the Baptist religion split off from it.

And I just think it is funny that people insist Protestants "split from" the Catholic church.

It was Catholics who split from the True Church due to their apostasy. It was then left to Protestants to reform what was left of the True Church, back to the way it had begun (hence the term "reformation"). Sadly that didn't last very long and most followed the papists in apostasy. Only a few True Christians (tm) remain, much like in the days of Noah. But the Word still goes out, giving everyone one last chance and leaving them without excuse.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Catholics

Haven't you read the story of the wedding feast of Cana? Jesus wasn't going to do anything to help the wedding get more wine until Mary took pity on them and asked Jesus to help. Hopefully, Mary will have pity on you and ask Jesus to save you.

When Mary was hassling Him to make wine, Jesus' reply was:
John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?

2,000 years ago, He was already getting impatient with her nagging. Imagine how sick of her He is now!

Jeremiah 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

Praying to the queen of heaven provokes God to anger.

At least I'm not a former Jesus-killer. Try explaining that one to God.

I've repented of my sins, and been washed of them in Christ's blood. You seem content to carry on sinning.

Excuse me, you Protestant stooge, but our two church have nothing in common.

They were both invented by the Devil to confuse idiots and make the Baby Jesus cry.

[James Peter]

Re: Catholics

It occurs to me that any Catholic sent here would not be just your run of the mill ordinary Catholic. This after all, is Landover Baptist, the 'Big League' for the Catholic spoor!

What we have here is some kind of Papal emissary.

I bet it's fetid and cavernous colon is full of Pope semen right now !!!!

Don't be ridiculous. I am but a mere layperson of the church. If the Pope had any sort of interest in a small church in rural America, he would send a clergyman to order it out, not a mere commoner like me.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Catholics

The Bible directs us to invoke those in heaven and ask them to pray with us. Thus in Psalms 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hearkening to the voice of his word! Bless the Lord, all his hosts, his ministers that do his will!" (Ps. 103:20-21). And in Psalms 148 we pray, "Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his host!" (Ps. 148:1-2).

You are totally misreading this. In the Psalms, we are not asking the angels to pray with us. We are giving them a warning, telling them that they'd better damned well bless the Lord, because one day we are going to judge their conduct:

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? 1 Corinthians 6:3

Not only do those in heaven pray with us, they also pray for us. In the book of Revelation, we read: "[An] angel came and stood at the altar [in heaven] with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God" (Rev. 8:3-4).

Not only will the angel not be praying for us, he won't be praying at all! He will be swinging an incense censer. Do you know the difference?

John sees that "the twenty-four elders [the leaders of the people of God in heaven] fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints" (Rev. 5:8). The simple fact is, as this passage shows: The saints in heaven offer to God the prayers of the saints on earth.

It doesn't say anything even remotely like that. It says they will bow down before the Lord, not that they will pray.

[James Peter]

Re: Catholics

It says the angels will present the prayers of the saints to God.