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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-01-2008, 02:34 AM
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Retarded Ape is just a figure of speech and why are we bringing Darwin into this, the guy just came up with a theory with absolutely no intention of discrediting God...despite what your A-Beka curriculum textbooks claim, or Alpha/Omega (Lifepac) or your Pace's tell you. I would'nt even wipe my ass with those books
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-02-2008, 07:00 PM
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Jesus didn't "create" Christianity. He GAVE it to us so that we might praise and worship Him all our otherwise meaningless lives. That way after He allows us to die, we can go to Heaven and praise and worship Him for eternity.
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-05-2008, 09:32 PM
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(a) if it's about God and it doesn't say it in the Bible, it's wrong
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How can you believe a collection of real stories???
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 11:31 AM
Ooops!!! Sorry for my mistake! Let me correct it.
It's fiction based on other fiction! You might wanna read some other books other than the Bible, or at least don't take it so seriously!
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 11:38 AM
I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what books do you recommend, Miss Fandango? The satanic bible? The kooran? Anarchist Cookbook maybe?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 11:50 AM
The DaVinci Code!!!
Compared to the Bible it's more factual than that.
Seriously now, if you check any book about ancient egyptian gods you'll see that Ra has so many similarities with Jesus that it can't be a coincidence.
Let's see what I found about Ra in just a couple of minutes:
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His mother was a woman called Meri
His father was called Jo-Sep
His father was of royal descent
His birth was heralded by a star
His birth was witnessed by Shepherds
King Herut tried to have him killed
He was 30 when baptised
His baptiser went on to be beheaded
He was followed by 12 disciples
He walked on water and healed the sick
He gave a 'sermon on the mount'
He was crucified
...between 2 thieves
He was buried in a tomb
He was resurrected after 3 days
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Or how about Asklipios. In ancient Greece he healed the sick and perfomed some kind of "miracles"
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 12:07 PM
Sorry, it's not Ra, it's Horus. If you like you could take a walk and go to your local bookstore and ask for a good book about ancient Egypt and it's gods. I'm not saying to buy a book comparing the two of them or a book like "The pagan Jesus"(or something like that) because these books speak nonsense without facts.
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 12:13 PM
Those are all false Gods and demons disguised as Jesus. We worship the Savior of Mankind, not some Greek butt pirate.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel
Those are all false Gods and demons disguised as Jesus. We worship the Savior of Mankind, not some Greek butt pirate.
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I never said that Horus is the real God. I just posted some striking similarities. Maybe it's a coincidence...or not?
Also, the ancient Egyptians saw Horus as a messiah. But that doesn't mean I believe that to be true
Finally, I suggest you to read other than the Bible books, and learn about other religions and civilizations, so the next time you won't be so narrow-minded
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fandango
I never said that Horus is the real God. I just posted some striking similarities. Maybe it's a coincidence...or not?
Also, the ancient Egyptians saw Horus as a messiah. But that doesn't mean I believe that to be true
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What happened with that is that satan knew the story of Christ, so he went back in time to plant similar myths and stories about other guys who had virgin mothers, etc. It was all done to confuse unsaved trash like you, friend.
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Finally, I suggest you to read other than the Bible books, and learn about other religions and civilizations, so the next time you won't be so narrow-minded
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Be specific. What books should we read? Harry Potter? Some book of fag poetry?
The only book anyone truly needs is the KJV1611 Bible. It has all the history we need. We True Christians™ are happy to turn our lives over to Jesus and let Him do our thinking.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 01:19 PM
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What happened with that is that satan knew the story of Christ, so he went back in time to plant similar myths and stories about other guys who had virgin mothers, etc. It was all done to confuse unsaved trash like you, friend.
So, God wasn't the brightest of lads eh? I mean, letting Satan know your plans about saving humanity is a terrible mistake to do!
The only book anyone truly needs is the KJV1611 Bible. It has all the history we need. We True Christians™ are happy to turn our lives over to Jesus and let Him do our thinking.
Haven't you thought that this book and mostly your interpretation of it's meaning is maybe the greatest "massification" mankind ever saw??
Some of the greatest slaughters happened "under the name of the Lord"
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Don't take me wrong, I'm a christian too. It's that our ideas about what christianity is and how to act as a christian differ vastly.
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 01:26 PM
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Be specific. What books should we read? Harry Potter? Some book of fag poetry?
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Any good historical book quoting facts is a good way to go."Ancient Egypt" by Silverman is an easy book to read.Or "The Oxford History of Ancient Egypt" is used as an idroductory text to many univercities. But I believe you are capable enough to find yourself a good book to read other than the Bible.
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 02:16 PM
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Don't take me wrong, I'm a christian too. It's that our ideas about what christianity is and how to act as a christian differ vastly.
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Did you even read his post? He said that Satan went back in time to mess with your head. After Jesus had come and gone, everyone knew his story, do you not think that Satan knew it?
Yeah, you are certainly a Christian. First you come on here stating that the Bible is false, and you say that other books are going to be more beneficial then the Bible? I hope your not serious.
Gather around so that I can read to you from my book of TRUTH. Genesis thru Revelations....Pick one!
Luke 12:5- But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 03:09 PM
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Did you even read his post? He said that Satan went back in time to mess with your head. After Jesus had come and gone, everyone knew his story, do you not think that Satan knew it?
Yeah, you are certainly a Christian. First you come on here stating that the Bible is false, and you say that other books are going to be more beneficial then the Bible? I hope your not serious.
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Time travel? Get serious.
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 03:54 PM
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Did you even read his post? He said that Satan went back in time to mess with your head. After Jesus had come and gone, everyone knew his story, do you not think that Satan knew it?
Yeah, you are certainly a Christian. First you come on here stating that the Bible is false, and you say that other books are going to be more beneficial then the Bible? I hope your not serious.
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Satan doing time travel????????Hillarious!!!!!!!!!! : lol:
Can you post something from the Holy Bible to support your statement of Satan doing time traveling??? I bet you can't
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 05:10 PM
Satan is referred to as the prince of the power of air in Ephesians 2:2. This is to signify that in some way he rules over the world and the people in it.
Ephesians 2:2 -Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience.
In John 12:31 God talks about casting out the prince of this world (Satan) because he has power on this earth to mess with peoples minds and get them to leave God.
John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
To say that Satan has no power is foolishness!! Can you please provide me with scripture that tells me that he couldn't time travel?
Gather around so that I can read to you from my book of TRUTH. Genesis thru Revelations....Pick one!
Luke 12:5- But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 06:07 PM
Neither you provided me something to support your time traveling theory.
The only thing the verses you posted say is that in the past he was good and now he became evil. At least that's the literal interpretation of it. You just did a great leap of logic and said he can time travel. That's just...doesn't make logic
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 06:11 PM
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Neither you provided me something to support your time traveling theory.
The only thing the verses you posted say is that in the past he was good and now he became evil. At least that's the literal interpretation of it. You just did a great leap of logic and said he can time travel. That's just...doesn't make logic
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He is referred to as the prince of this world! You don't think he has powers to mess with your weak earthly mind? He is a master of trickery! He took the form of a serpent, what makes you think he can't go back in time??
I see plenty of support showing him to have powers on this earth. I do not see you showing me any proof otherwise.
Gather around so that I can read to you from my book of TRUTH. Genesis thru Revelations....Pick one!
Luke 12:5- But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 06:15 PM
You all say you read the Bible literaly.
Well, literaly he's the prince of the world.He also tricked Adam and Eve. Also tried to trick Jesus and failed misserably. But nowhere does it say that he has the power to time travel!
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Re: Historical Jesus didn't create a new religion! -
10-06-2008, 08:14 PM
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You all say you read the Bible literaly.
Well, literaly he's the prince of the world.He also tricked Adam and Eve. Also tried to trick Jesus and failed misserably. But nowhere does it say that he has the power to time travel!
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It certainly doesn't say that he can't. And if he can take the form of a serpent, then why wouldn't he be able to?
Gather around so that I can read to you from my book of TRUTH. Genesis thru Revelations....Pick one!
Luke 12:5- But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
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