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Default Re: The Cure for the Budget Crisis: Stop Educating Girls - 01-30-2013, 07:29 PM

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Who's being insulting? This is getting ridiculous. I'm just telling you what God instructs us women should do and you're getting all offended and saying it's an insult. It's not my fault if you can't handle the Truth® and have to resort to childish ranting.

God says women are foul sources of sin who can only be redeeemed by giving birth.
1 Timothy 2:9-15
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Here you talk about child birth earlier you said insulted me
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Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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Default Re: The Cure for the Budget Crisis: Stop Educating Girls - 01-30-2013, 07:33 PM

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He's not insulting you, dear. He's just sharing his twisted version of what women are, based on the bits in the Bible all right thinking modern Christian women ignore. He can't see how hateful his words are because he's obsessed with these bible verses.




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He's not insulting you, dear. He's just sharing his twisted version of what women are based on the bits in the Bible all right thinking modern Christian women ignore. He can't see how hateful his words are because he's obsessed with these bible verses.
Yes, because we all know that God can create a whole world (or in your version, an entire universe) but can't keep his book straight.

Why do you write God off as so weak? Is it because you hate men so much that you need to chop God down?


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Yes, because we all know that God can create a whole world (or in your version, an entire universe) but can't keep his book straight.

Why do you write God off as so weak? Is it because you hate men so much that you need to chop God down?
Tell it as it is, sister! Proof that not all women are checking out each other's cooters and plotting how to turn the world on its head and make men their slaves.

What's on the menu for your man, tonight? He always seems well satisfied.



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Tell it as it is, sister! Proof that not all women are checking out each other's cooters and plotting how to turn the world on its head and make men their slaves.

What's on the menu for your man, tonight? He always seems well satisfied.
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Yes, because we all know that God can create a whole world (or in your version, an entire universe) but can't keep his book straight.

Why do you write God off as so weak? Is it because you hate men so much that you need to chop God down?
God didn't write the book honey
Acually people debate if the bible is true
Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone admits that the Bible might contain errors -- a faulty creation story here, a historical mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other place. But is it possible that the problem is worse than that -- that the Bible actually contains lies?
Most people wouldn't put it that way, since the Bible is, after all, sacred Scripture for millions on our planet. But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that the Bible is full of lies, even if they refuse to use the term lying scholars use a different term for this phenomenon and call such books "pseudepigrapha meaning writing inscribed with lies


Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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I'd like you to enumerate at least one lie that is contained in the Bible.


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It's times like this that I am greatful that little Tammy Faith was born with a hair lip. The principle told us she was so ugly it was a distraction to the other kids so we just keep her home and let her scratch her lessons in the dirt with a stick. She's a real comfort to her mother when she's not slobbering all over the place, and a comfort to the tax payers and job creators as well.


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God didn't write the book honey
Oh? And you're an expert on the Bible now?


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Yes, True Christians say it's true and Hell bound sinners say it isn't .
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Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone admits that the Bible might contain errors -- a faulty creation story here, a historical mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other place. But is it possible that the problem is worse than that -- that the Bible actually contains lies?
Most people wouldn't put it that way, since the Bible is, after all, sacred Scripture for millions on our planet. But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that the Bible is full of lies, even if they refuse to use the term lying scholars use a different term for this phenomenon and call such books "pseudepigrapha meaning writing inscribed with lies
Why are you here again? Getting into heaven isn't a popularity contest, it's not dependent on what's in vogue this year, it requires following the ENTIRE Bible.

2 Peter 2:1-9 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:


And since when are Catholics Christian? I know that's been brought up to you before.

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I'd like you to enumerate at least one lie that is contained in the Bible.
. Whoever wrote the New Testament book of 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter. Scholars may also tell you that it was an acceptable practice in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of someone else. But that is where they are wrong. If you look at what ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even in Christian circles. 2 Peter was finally accepted into the New Testament because the church fathers, centuries later, were convinced that Peter wrote it. But he didn't. Someone else did. And that someone else lied about his identity.


Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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He's not insulting you, dear. He's just sharing his twisted version of what women are, based on the bits in the Bible all right thinking modern Christian women ignore. He can't see how hateful his words are because he's obsessed with these bible verses.
Unlike you who seems to have a home-made decoding ring when it comes to your vision of The Almighty's Word.

If you create a god in your image, there's no difficulty following that god's commands.

God, in His Triune Form, tells us what to do and how to do it - there's no room for latte-sipping libertines in The Lord's Congregation.





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I'd like you to enumerate at least one lie that is contained in the Bible.[/

. Whoever wrote the New Testament book of 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter. Scholars may also tell you that it was an acceptable practice in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of someone else. But that is where they are wrong. If you look at what ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even in Christian circles. 2 Peter was finally accepted into the New Testament because the church fathers, centuries later, were convinced that Peter wrote it. But he didn't. Someone else did. And that someone else lied about his identity.
Funny that these "scholars" pick on 2 Peter so much, especially since it opens up with a long tirade about following false doctrines.

2nd Timothy 4:1-5 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.


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Funny that these "scholars" pick on 2 Peter so much, especially since it opens up with a long tirade about following false doctrines.

2nd Timothy 4:1-5 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
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This may all seem like a bit of antiquarian curiosity but Whoever wrote the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul. But he was lying about that -- he was someone else living after Paul had died.
Largely on the basis of this passage, the apostle Paul has been branded, by more liberation minded people of recent generations, as one of history's great misogynists. The problem, of course, is that Paul never said any such thing. And why does it matter? Because the passage is still used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women. Why are there no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today that do not allow women even to speak?


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For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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Whoever wrote the New Testament book of 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter.
So what? Secular scholars will also tell you Jesus didn't exist, that He was just the iconic character some epileptic plagued with hallucinations conjured up to lend credibility to his cult that was based on the jewish religion. What secular scholars say doesn't mean anything, because they reject the Truth© in their hearts.


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This may all seem like a bit of antiquarian curiosity but Whoever wrote the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul. But he was lying about that -- he was someone else living after Paul had died.
Largely on the basis of this passage, the apostle Paul has been branded, by more liberation minded people of recent generations, as one of history's great misogynists. The problem, of course, is that Paul never said any such thing. And why does it matter? Because the passage is still used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women. Why are there no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today that do not allow women even to speak?
Again, why are you here? You think God is a liar who is either too weak to keep his book straight, or doesn't care.

I don't care what the catholics do, because CATHOLICS AREN'T CHRISTIAN

This is my last post to you. You are obviously nothing more than another demon possessed troll who knows everything about everything and is here to try and steal as many souls for your master as possible.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


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So what? Secular scholars will also tell you Jesus didn't exist, that He was just the iconic character some epileptic plagued with hallucinations conjured up to lend credibility to his cult that was based on the jewish religion. What secular scholars say doesn't mean anything, because they reject the Truth© in their hearts.
I don't believe Jesus doesn't exists
It's very unlikely he didn't would we have the bible if he wasn't? Probably not. But could some parts be exaggerated or changed over the years? Sounds likely


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Probably not. But could some parts be exaggerated or changed over the years? Sounds likely
Utter nonsense. The Bible never changes! Changing the Bible would be against God's laws: Deuteronomy 4:2, Revelation 22:18-19.


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I hope you realize this is terrible blasphemy!


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I don't believe Jesus doesn't exists
It's very unlikely he didn't would we have the bible if he wasn't? Probably not. But could some parts be exaggerated or changed over the years? Sounds likely
But what if those bits are also inaccurate forgeries?

You might as well be an atheist. Just admit it that you don't believe in God and are happy to make stuff up that's a fake god just so you seem more socially acceptable. You're a wishy washy disgrace.



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