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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-18-2011, 05:41 PM

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When you say god hates cripples, what does that mean exactly? How does he express that hatred? It seems to me that if neither he or his disciples does anything to express this hatred then it means nothing. I am very confused on this point.
First of all God made them cripple. Don't you think that is a clear sign already? And when they die they will be tortured in Hell for all eternity. Seems pretty obvious to me.


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God doesn't like us running around willy-nilly killing people! He's the strongest proponent of capital punishment there is, but it has to be done right and legally, and only when certain laws are broken. He doesn't tell us to go around killing everyone He hates.
Now if the cripples do something particularly vile like commit murder, rape a married woman, work on a Sunday, or have s*x with an animal for example, then yes, they should be sent to the gas chamber. However, God is so loving He expects us to wait until they've broken those laws first, and only if those laws are the law of the land.
Mary, one other thing I could not help but notice. You listed raping a married woman as wrong? Not accusing you of anything but single women are conspicuously absent from this statement. Surely you aren't saying it's okay to rape single women are you?


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-18-2011, 05:58 PM

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First of all God made them cripple. Don't you think that is a clear sign already? And when they die they will be tortured in Hell for all eternity. Seems pretty obvious to me.
Interesting. So you say there are two punishments, the first being the actual affliction they suffer in the here and now and the second being in the after-life. I might add a third, which is the incessant yammering coming from the christians who like to talk about how god hates them. As an atheist I would say stop all the whining and just use the nuclear option provided legally by the US Government - abortion. I believe my option is much more humane. You are likely more kind to your dogs than you are to your "cripples".


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-18-2011, 06:01 PM

When was the last time anyone saw me kick a cripple?


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Mary, one other thing I could not help but notice. You listed raping a married woman as wrong? Not accusing you of anything but single women are conspicuously absent from this statement. Surely you aren't saying it's okay to rape single women are you?
Raping single women is wrong, just not as wrong. More details can be found here - http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=61566


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When was the last time anyone saw me kick a cripple?
Last Summer when we had a church bowling tournament in DesMoines, remember?


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Last Summer when we had a church bowling tournament in DesMoines, remember?
Fair enough, but he wasn't a cripple BEFORE Nobar kicked him! Not physically anyway.

Heard that kid didn't pull through. Good times, though.
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-19-2011, 05:56 PM

I have a decision to make tonight and could do with some advice. I have just walked past a local Church and they have just installed a wheelchair ramp!! Obviously I am outraged and I don't want cripples turning up and mocking God.


Leviticus 21:16 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,
Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken.


But it is very dark and quiet there so I could chop it up overnight so they can't get in for Sunday service. They would all be stuck outside and we are due very heavy rain

But Jesus says I have to follow secular law.

Mathew 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Do I have to follow secular law if there is no chance of getting caught? Obviously morally the right thing to do is to chop it up and I would just like to stop this outrage if possible.


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-19-2011, 06:13 PM

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I have a decision to make tonight and could do with some advice. I have just walked past a local Church and they have just installed a wheelchair ramp!! Obviously I am outraged and I don't want cripples turning up and mocking God.


Leviticus 21:16 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,
Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken.


But it is very dark and quiet there so I could chop it up overnight so they can't get in for Sunday service. They would all be stuck outside and we are due very heavy rain

But Jesus says I have to follow secular law.

Mathew 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Do I have to follow secular law if there is no chance of getting caught? Obviously morally the right thing to do is to chop it up and I would just like to stop this outrage if possible.


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Probably the best compromise would be a visit tonight with a Sawz-all. A few strategic cuts in supporting timbers; not all the way through, but enough to reduce integrity by 90 percent.

This way, as the drooling retard is being pushed up the ramp, the entire structure should collapse as he nears the top, praise Jesus! Any remaining gimps making their way toward the church will flee.

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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-19-2011, 10:54 PM

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Why would Jesus heal a cripple if it was okay to be one? Jesus can heal homos*xuals, but that doesn't mean you can hang around committing sodomy at truck stop restrooms.

Check and mate.
Fair point, but 'Cripples' can't choose to be cripples, whereas homosexuals can choose whether or not to be homosexuals. What if you became a cripple through an accident or you were BORN with a disablity? Would you deserve to go to hell any more than anyone else? This forum seems to be full of people misinterpreting all kinds of scripture.
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Fair point, but 'Cripples' can't choose to be cripples, whereas homosexuals can choose whether or not to be homosexuals. What if you became a cripple through an accident or you were BORN with a disablity? Would you deserve to go to hell any more than anyone else? This forum seems to be full of people misinterpreting all kinds of scripture.
How are we misinterpreting scripture? If these cripples were good people, they could pray and God would heal them!

First of all, if you get sick, its your own damn fault.
If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee. -- Exodus 15:26
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-20-2011, 12:30 AM

Of course they cant choose to be crippled. They're CRIPPLED. That means they dont really think or have a soul, defective goods probably sent as punishment for the parents transgressions. Thats why girls should never kiss until their wedding day. God loves showering retards on a church that disobeys His word. Thats why Landover Baptist stands alone and can lay claim to a 0% retarded child rate within the city limits of Freehold. Thats a blessing from Jesus.


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Probably the best compromise would be a visit tonight with a Sawz-all. A few strategic cuts in supporting timbers; not all the way through, but enough to reduce integrity by 90 percent.

This way, as the drooling retard is being pushed up the ramp, the entire structure should collapse as he nears the top, praise Jesus! Any remaining gimps making their way toward the church will flee.

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Great advice. Job done.


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 03-20-2011, 02:27 PM

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Of course they cant choose to be crippled. They're CRIPPLED. That means they dont really think or have a soul, defective goods probably sent as punishment for the parents transgressions. Thats why girls should never kiss until their wedding day. God loves showering retards on a church that disobeys His word. Thats why Landover Baptist stands alone and can lay claim to a 0% retarded child rate within the city limits of Freehold. Thats a blessing from Jesus.
What happened to God loves everyone...?

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How are we misinterpreting scripture? If these cripples were good people, they could pray and God would heal them!
I know, how about you go out and cut off your leg or something, then pray to God to make it grow back. It's the same principle.
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What happened to God loves everyone...?
The Bible NEVER says God loves everyone. Just the opposite. God actually hates quite a number of people.

Leviticus 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Proverbs 6:16, 19 These six things doth the LORD hate ... A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Hosea 9:15 I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings.

Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.


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No, it's not the same thing.

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Dear unsaved hater of God,

It has been stated again and again on this forum that the fluffy 'God is love' version of Christianity is nothing but lies spread by people who twist the bibles heavenly word!

The bible states very clearly several groups of people and individuals God despises, in both testaments. God hates and shows us who is worthy of God's shining light of salvation and who shall burn in hell for an eternity!

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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 05-23-2011, 02:03 AM

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It is obvious to any rational, thinking Christian that all cripples are potential terrorists. Giving them money is just asking for Iran to complete its nuclear programme.
potental terrorists? Where are you getting that from? I'm appologizing ahead of time but...WHAT? Ok, a good friend is a Godly man who loves God and serves him, I noly wish I could show the same love for God as he does. And guess what? he is crippled, has been from birth. Now I'm not shure how being crippled/dissabled is connected with terrorism, and would really like to know where this belief comes from. Thank you for your time


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potental terrorists? Where are you getting that from? I'm appologizing ahead of time but...WHAT? Ok, a good friend is a Godly man who loves God and serves him, I noly wish I could show the same love for God as he does. And guess what? he is crippled, has been from birth. Now I'm not shure how being crippled/dissabled is connected with terrorism, and would really like to know where this belief comes from. Thank you for your time
Go back and read this thread from the first post. We aren't here to spoon feed you.

And please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.


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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Go back and read this thread from the first post. We aren't here to spoon feed you.

And please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
Sorry, I posted before I thought through everything, I'll try to do better in the future.

and how do I get rid of the God mocker part? I don't know what I did that implied that. again sorry


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 05-24-2011, 02:00 PM

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What the Bible says about Cripples


Ex.4:11
Who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Lev.21:17-23
Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. ... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries.

Given these Holy Scriptures, why are we being forced by demoncrats to spend our hard earned tax dollars on such nonsense as "sheltered workshops" and wheelchairs?
I know this is an old post, but even Jesus healed the crippled. If you are going to say that God hates cripples, then you don't know God very well at all. You, my friend, are choosing to be in a lukewarm state, and according to Revelation, God will reject those in such a state.

The truth is this: God hates the condition of a cripple, not the person who is in such condition.
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