[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Pizzakoerier

I will not respond at your posts anymore

Thank you.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by jipjan

Cranky, You don't have any argument against his points, so don't post to answer rhetorical questions...You are avoiding it...
We all know what ur answer will be so spare us...

This thread is filled with hundreds of arguments against his "points". It is not my problem that he is too lazy to read them.

[Pizzakoerier]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

How can you argue against facts? COM posted facts. As pure and real as God.

You cant prove Holland is "Doomed" and oh holy america u're saved!!! gratz!
even I know sin remains sin. if you can prove God hate Holland I am sure God hate America for the same reason. Amerika do not have less sins than Holland, just other.

[jipjan]

And you think that you decide who you can send to hell???
I guess God is in your eyes more like a killing machine who throw everybody in hell when you use google, or play with lego. I got a sense that more satanistic than love/judge from God... God doesn't HATE humans! He doesn't like things is a better word! Cuz God can't really hate things because he can't sin!
--------------------
God see Holland
God thinks "Holland, hmmm worst country on earth, lets throw every inhabitant in hell... less work for me later..."

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Pizzakoerier

You cant prove Holland is "Doomed" and oh holy america u're saved!!! gratz!
even I know sin remains sin. if you can prove God hate Holland I am sure God hate America for the same reason. Amerika do not have less sins than Holland, just other.

I did. COM did. Lisa H. did As have countless others.

I am sorry for your pain. I can imagine your discomfort though as an American and True Christian™, it is a bit of a stretch.

holland is not 'Doomed'. That implies a terrible future catastrophic event. holland was doomed and all the hollandaise are wallowing in secretions of despair.

I already explained about the sins, your comprehension is really poor. Are all hollandaise as cantankerous as you?

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by jipjan

And you think that you decide who you can send to hell???
I guess God is in your eyes more like a killing machine who throw everybody in hell when you use google, or play with lego. I got a sense that more satanistic than love/judge from God... God doesn't HATE humans! He doesn't like things is a better word! Cuz God can't really hate things because he can't sin!
--------------------
God see Holland
God thinks "Holland, hmmm worst country on earth, lets throw every inhabitant in hell... less work for me later..."

Of course not, are all you hollandaise this nutz?

God decides who has been naughty and who has been nice and "makes the call". However, from years of experience and having lived as True Christians™, we have learned how He thinks and what would Jesus do.

God does eventually kill everyone. No one lives for ever. It is a thankless job, for sure.

Hate is not a sin, son. Lying like you and your perverted friends have been is.

[Pizzakoerier]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Of course not, are all you hollandaise this nutz?

God decides who has been naughty and who has been nice and "makes the call". However, from years of experience and having lived as True Christians™, we have learned how He thinks and what would Jesus do.

God does eventually kill everyone. No one lives for ever. It is a thankless job, for sure.

Hate is not a sin, son. Lying like you and your perverted friends have been is.

Your view about religion is messed up.
cuz the topic 9 Reasons why god hate Holland, i posted this:


God hates Holland with good reason.(guess thats included the Christians?)

Enough?
No, because
There are still Christians in Holland, do God hate them too???
-Why would God hate us because: We dont have a good airforce?(that's a lie anyways)
-our queen dont speak dutch?(thats a lie too)
-The Dutch are always telling the rest of the world how to behave. No one ever listens?? thats called prejudge again.. and your posts are the same, telling people how to behave....hypocrite.....Matthew 24:51
-The only people actually working in Holland are the Polish and the Turks??? hmm I got a paperround in my neighbourhood, that IS called work.
-Since everything in Holland is legal, they have a lot of empty prisons?? much too simpleminded for me... I CANT do anything I like, if you did think that was true...
-In a country where drugs, postnatal abortion, gay marriage, prostitution and sex with children are all completely legal, the concept is simply completely unknown??? every country(including Amerika!) do have prostitution, gay marriage, abortion and drugs. sex with children isnt allowed, and the CristenUnie dont promote that...(much people here dislike that this is allowed)
-The depraved little Dutch boy why is rumored to have used his finger to stop the flow of water from a dyke did not actually use his finger to achieve that??? thats a story/fairytale/myth or whatever you want to call it.
-Right after betraying Anne Frank at the end of the Second World War the Dutch immediately started to slaughter as many innocent women and children in Indonesia as possible. This ended after the Americans kicked the Dutch out and restored peace and prosperity in Indonesia??? that make me think about Amerika's wars(btw they didnt slaughter people, they did fight against the indonesian army).... And "we" never "betrayed" Anne Frank.

no reason why Holland should be hated by God.

part of my old post.
I ONLY want you ppl here want to understand america IS NOT BETTER!!!
if you really think that, you think you are better than an ordinairy sinner, what is judging yourself from the others. Understand me, this should be one of my last posts. I know some guys here love to hear that because I pOwned them with my discussion. however you cant tell me every american is aChristian, nor is holland. (btw holland is actually called The Netherlands...) So, if God hate The Netherlands, It will hat america for sure.

everyone here that did response reasonable to my posts, thanx(thats of course excluded our cranky old man)

byee from The Netherlands!

and avoid sins, brothers

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Pizzakoerier

everyone here that did response reasonable to my posts, thanx(thats of course excluded our cranky old man)

Why are you still here? Don't you have pizzas to deliver?

[awesomeness]

Originally Posted by Pizzakoerier
I will not respond at your posts anymore

Moments later...

Originally Posted by Pizzakoerier
You cant prove Holland is "Doomed" and oh holy america u're saved!!! gratz!
even I know sin remains sin. if you can prove God hate Holland I am sure God hate America for the same reason. Amerika do not have less sins than Holland, just other.

[ChristiansUberAlles]

I THINK that you guys are right.
I come from holland and GOD IT IS HELL, Satan possesed this country.

but for some reason abbortion is right, I mean killing newborn demons is supposed to be good?

MAY GOD HELP ME!!!

[Buster]

To bust your "facts" 1: We DO have a word for virgin wich is "maagd" The only thing you said was legal that actaully IS legal is Gay marriage the rest is illigal.
2: We do NOT think we are the only country that is able to play footbal and we DID show up at 1974 we only lost with 8-0 and we DID actually win the european cup once or twice.
3: you call it cowards we call it pacifists, you call it run away we call it promises of the government.
4: We are not telling every how to behave, just giving hints how to make things better (Yes we DO have problems of our own, tips are always welcome.
5: You got it all wrong there buddy, the only ones working are the Polish and the Dutch the new generation of the Turkish are to lazy to do anything and THEY are getting stoned, Geert Wilders is (i do agree with that) a Nazi.
6: You keep comming back to that Stoned part. and everything being legal and stuff however everything is ILLIGAL and our jails are empty because we dont have a bunch of crazy assassins runing around in here.
7: The entire Royal family is pure dutch, untill Maxima joined in. every1 in this family speaks dutch. (must agree with the hats though)
8: The Dutch boy you are talking about is actually from Belgium.
9: We didnt betray Anne, she was captured by the German, We didnt get kicked out of indonesia the dutch people were striking to make sure the

Extra: The flag above your post is French, Do your homework in every "fact" you call is an error, What do you mean with between Poland and Turkey, We are between Germany and Belgium. In the list below your post it sais Holland and The Netherlands= Same country

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Buster

To bust your "facts" 1: We DO have a word for virgin wich is "maagd" The only thing you said was legal that actaully IS legal is Gay marriage the rest is illigal.
2: We do NOT think we are the only country that is able to play footbal and we DID show up at 1974 we only lost with 8-0 and we DID actually win the european cup once or twice.
3: you call it cowards we call it pacifists, you call it run away we call it promises of the government.
4: We are not telling every how to behave, just giving hints how to make things better (Yes we DO have problems of our own, tips are always welcome.
5: You got it all wrong there buddy, the only ones working are the Polish and the Dutch the new generation of the Turkish are to lazy to do anything and THEY are getting stoned, Geert Wilders is (i do agree with that) a Nazi.
6: You keep comming back to that Stoned part. and everything being legal and stuff however everything is ILLIGAL and our jails are empty because we dont have a bunch of crazy assassins runing around in here.
7: The entire Royal family is pure dutch, untill Maxima joined in. every1 in this family speaks dutch. (must agree with the hats though)
8: The Dutch boy you are talking about is actually from Belgium.
9: We didnt betray Anne, she was captured by the German, We didnt get kicked out of indonesia the dutch people were striking to make sure the

Extra: The flag above your post is French, Do your homework in every "fact" you call is an error, What do you mean with between Poland and Turkey, We are between Germany and Belgium. In the list below your post it sais Holland and The Netherlands= Same country

What a bunch of hollandise propoganda hooey!

[relevation]

I will try my best English for this website, since you and Jesus want so badly.
However, English is not my first language so don't bully me on that, please.

I am a proud atheist and am only here to point you on the LIES.
If you don't believe me, then please search it up yourselves.

It feels like you hate me for being Dutch before actually knowing me for real.
I've never been stoned in my life.


Dutch word for virginity = 'maagd' or 'maagdelijkheid'
Try freetranslations.com.

Having sex with children is forbidden.
There was a political party who had tried to, but they got kicked out rather quickly.
Never heard of them ever again. Those organisations that exist and fight for
'making love with children' don't get any media attention.

So DON'T YOU DARE to say that we allow that.


We don't know what prisons are for? Are you mocking US?
We put in people who are a danger to the society.

Our police are always stoned? I don't believe that you know our laws that well.
They write an insane amount of speeding tickets?
If an insane amount of people are breaking the rules then you would have to write an insane amount of tickets.
It's to keep order and safety.

I have no idea how it is with our army. But realise that how we perform in your eyes depend on how the media presents it.
I think that America is a very self-loving country. Presenting themselves as better than other countries.
However, this is my point of view on America. Do not blame all the Dutch on it.
I realise that every country could be like this and I have a strict view on the news I receive.

Geert Wilders is no nazi. The Nazi doesn't even exist anymore. Known as Neo-Nazi's, but not like the old one.
He is rather extreme in his verdictions, however that doesn't make one person a nazi.
Be careful with where you should use that word.

Our Dutch queen has German blood, but she is a descendant of Willem van Oranje, one of our kings in the 18th/17th century.
The oldest of the 'van Oranje' family would become a king/queen. Following a bloodline.

And the boy who used his finger to stop the dyke from breaking?
It's a story. So he used his wheener?
Who cares!? People were threatened to be drowned. They wouldn't care what he would stick in the dyke. Would you? I wouldn't!
I'd watch, I'd laugh and say that the boy is an awesome dude! "My hero!"

Please on the last point. Look better into History. I've learned from a Dutch history book and I know there are some parts in it
which make the Holland seem like a WAY better country then it might actually be in reality but...
Indonesia was threatening to MURDER innocent PEOPLE on the islands my grandma used to live on.

She fled, thanks to the help of the Dutch. If words wouldn't stop them from murdering innocent people, what else would?
However, this is all I know. And judging with only so little information doesn't seem like a wise thing to do.
You shouldn't either.


Please, if you write down 9 reasons why God hate Holland, write 9 reasons which aren't so easy to break like these.
Even a 12 year old Dutcb boy would smirk at this and break these L I E S.

Last but not least, Holland and the Netherlands is one and the same country.

It doesn't lie between Polen and Turkey. The countries between Polen and Turkey:
Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece.

Netherlands is north of Belgium and west of Germany.

I defend my country for the love for my country.

And it is true.
There is a thin line between passionatly relligious and being extremist...

Don't cross over.

I think that every and each one of you know this line from the bible:

If you truly love your God, then you would obey.

You will never lie

I do not love a god, but I would never lie either.

- Have a pleasent day and don't bother me with
"You're going to burn in Hell."

Maybe God exists and I will or else I'll turn into nothingness...

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by relevation

I will try my best English for this website, since you and Jesus want so badly.
However, English is not my first language so don't bully me on that, please.

I am a proud atheist and am only here to point you on the LIES.
If you don't believe me, then please search it up yourselves.

It feels like you hate me for being Dutch before actually knowing me for real.
I've never been stoned in my life.


Dutch word for virginity = 'maagd' or 'maagdelijkheid'
Try freetranslations.com.

Having sex with children is forbidden.
There was a political party who had tried to, but they got kicked out rather quickly.
Never heard of them ever again. Those organisations that exist and fight for
'making love with children' don't get any media attention.

So DON'T YOU DARE to say that we allow that.


We don't know what prisons are for? Are you mocking US?
We put in people who are a danger to the society.

Our police are always stoned? I don't believe that you know our laws that well.
They write an insane amount of speeding tickets?
If an insane amount of people are breaking the rules then you would have to write an insane amount of tickets.
It's to keep order and safety.

I have no idea how it is with our army. But realise that how we perform in your eyes depend on how the media presents it.
I think that America is a very self-loving country. Presenting themselves as better than other countries.
However, this is my point of view on America. Do not blame all the Dutch on it.
I realise that every country could be like this and I have a strict view on the news I receive.

Geert Wilders is no nazi. The Nazi doesn't even exist anymore. Known as Neo-Nazi's, but not like the old one.
He is rather extreme in his verdictions, however that doesn't make one person a nazi.
Be careful with where you should use that word.

Our Dutch queen has German blood, but she is a descendant of Willem van Oranje, one of our kings in the 18th/17th century.
The oldest of the 'van Oranje' family would become a king/queen. Following a bloodline.

And the boy who used his finger to stop the dyke from breaking?
It's a story. So he used his wheener?
Who cares!? People were threatened to be drowned. They wouldn't care what he would stick in the dyke. Would you? I wouldn't!
I'd watch, I'd laugh and say that the boy is an awesome dude! "My hero!"

Please on the last point. Look better into History. I've learned from a Dutch history book and I know there are some parts in it
which make the Holland seem like a WAY better country then it might actually be in reality but...
Indonesia was threatening to MURDER innocent PEOPLE on the islands my grandma used to live on.

She fled, thanks to the help of the Dutch. If words wouldn't stop them from murdering innocent people, what else would?
However, this is all I know. And judging with only so little information doesn't seem like a wise thing to do.
You shouldn't either.


Please, if you write down 9 reasons why God hate Holland, write 9 reasons which aren't so easy to break like these.
Even a 12 year old Dutcb boy would smirk at this and break these L I E S.

Last but not least, Holland and the Netherlands is one and the same country.

It doesn't lie between Polen and Turkey. The countries between Polen and Turkey:
Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece.

Netherlands is north of Belgium and west of Germany.

I defend my country for the love for my country.

And it is true.
There is a thin line between passionatly relligious and being extremist...

Don't cross over.

I think that every and each one of you know this line from the bible:

If you truly love your God, then you would obey.

You will never lie

I do not love a god, but I would never lie either.

- Have a pleasent day and don't bother me with
"You're going to burn in Hell."

Maybe God exists and I will or else I'll turn into nothingness...

tl;dr

Friend, I do not know if all that hollandaise came from a mix or a can but it certainly was not fresh.

I know this must come as quite a blow to you but every fact stated on this website is fully vetted and verified by Price Watterhouse, PLC, and independent and unbiased True Christian Corporation™.
If you'd like, I can ask them to confirm any of the items you have in dispute but you will have to foot the bill. They will require a good faith escrow deposit made. Please let me know for Bank address, Bank Name, Bank routing number and the Interbank number and I can have Miss Cookie file the requisite paperwork for you. How does that sound?

[Sterre]

Originally Posted by Cranky Old Man

9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

Holland is an insignificant country between Turkey and Poland filled with arrogant, bad smelling, cheese gobbling, blunt barbarians who spend all their time whining and complaining. Let’s make this crystal clear: Holland is the filthiest country in the world, bar none. The Dutch will all go to Hell twice.

Psalm 63:9 "But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth."

1. The Dutch language is the only language in the world that doesn't have a word for virgin. In a country where drugs, postnatal abortion, gay marriage, prostitution and sex with children are all completely legal, the concept is simply completely unknown. They even have a political party "Christen Unie" which actively promotes sex with children!
   
   oke, i wanted to react to this because what you are saying isn't correct... first of all in the Netherlands there is actually a word for virgin : maagd. sex with children is illegal you go to jail for it, and pedophiles are the most hated people in the Netherlands. the rest is true but I support gay marriage and abortion completely.
   the political party ''Christen Unie'' is a party that actually supports the Christian believe and the Church... and doesn't support sex with children in any way.
   
   
   
   Psalm 9:17 "... into hell ... all the nations that forget God."
2. The Dutch are the only people in the world who think that the Dutch can play football. They never won anything, their most disastrous moment being 1974 when their players had so much sex and alcohol before the world cup final with Germany that they forgot to show up.
   
   We aren't that good in football I have to admit that but we do it pretty good at ice skating! and our playes did not forgot to show up we lost the game with 2 -1 ;(
   
   
3. The Dutch gay cowards army is the worst in the world. Whenever they get scared they simply run away no matter how many innocent people will die because of that. The Dutch claim to have an air force but no one has ever actually seen it in action. Their parliament has been debating whether or not to buy just a single military airplane for decades.
   
   
   Well we don't have a very strong army that's right. But the reason for that is that most people in the Netherlands are against war.. and we are a very small country what makes it very difficult to create a big army especially if no one wants to fight... ''worst in the world'' is a bit over exaggerated I think.
   
   Revelation 21:8 "... whoremongers ..."
4. The Dutch are always telling the rest of the world how to behave. No one ever listens.
   
   Well I actually thought that the american people where the one who did that, but maybe I am wrong ;S. Dutch people have a strong opinion I agree on that ... but I don't think there is something wrong with that.
   
   Matthew 24:51 "... hypocrites ..."
5. The only people actually working in Holland are the Polish and the Turks. All other people are on welfare because they are too stoned to work. Geert Wilders, an Indonesian bisexual who dyed his hair blonde and wears blue contact lenses to look more like a German Nazi, is trying to change all this, but everyone is too stoned to notice.
   
   I think your point her isn't based on any true information, because we are really hard workers here in the Netherlands. Most people have a job and if you can't find one you can go in to welfare but only if you apply 5 times a week to find a job. The rules are pretty strict in that way. About Geert Wilders he's a politician who wants all the foreigners out of the Netherlands... so he certainly doesn't support the Polish and Turks. He actually hates the Turks.. because he is against muslims. He doesn't wear blue contact lenses by the way. And in the Netherlands it is legal to use cannabis, but that doesn't mean that everybody uses it. Most of the people are against it because of the awareness about the bad influences it can have on your health.
   
   
   
   Proverbs 12:24 "... the lazy man ..."
6. Since everything in Holland is legal, they have a lot of empty prisons. No one in Holland knows what those are meant for. The Dutch are rumored to have a police force but they are too stoned to do anything useful with the exception of producing insane amounts of speeding tickets.
   
   About the speeding tickets you are right... those are really expensive. But the rest of your text is all nonsense ... where did you get this information?
   Our prisons are full ( not a good thing)... we all know what they are mend for. and our police force works actually really good... If you did your research you would know we are one of the safest country's around.
   
   
   Romans 1:30 "... inventors of evil things ..."
7. The Dutch have an ugly hat wearing silly excuse for a queen who is not even Dutch as both her husband, father and grandfather all were Nazis who escaped criminal prosecution by joining the royal family. To keep the family line pure her retarded son Alexander is married to Máxima Zorreguieta who personally shot thousands of Argentinian farmers before she was forced to escape into the royal family as well. No one in the Dutch royal family speaks Dutch.
   
   Our Queen is Dutch.. she is born and raised here. she speaks dutch (kind of logical don't you think?) her father and grandfather and her husband weren't Nazi's it is actually very offensive of you to say that if you think of the history of the Netherlands (that you obviously don't know! ) The husband of our queen was german and they married before the second world war. their was a lot of commotion about that but eventually they married out of love.
   Maxima is not dutch but they also married out of love... and she didn't shoot thousand of Argentinian farmers. Her dad did some bad things.. but he wasn't even aloud to come to maxima's wedding because we don't tolerate that behavior.
   
   1 Corinthians 6:9 "... inherit the kingdom ... adulterers ..."
8. The depraved little Dutch boy why is rumored to have used his finger to stop the flow of water from a dyke did not actually use his finger to achieve that...
   
   I don't know were you are talking about... and I am dutch.
   
   Romans 1:29 "... fornication ..."
9. Right after betraying Anne Frank at the end of the Second World War the Dutch immediately started to slaughter as many innocent women and children in Indonesia as possible. This ended after the Americans kicked the Dutch out and restored peace and prosperity in Indonesia.
   
   There was a war between the Netherlands and Indonesia and it was horrible not only for the indonesian people. And of course it was wrong..
   the Americans did not kick out the Dutch (... don't be a hypocrite America bomb both Nagasaki and Hiroshima where a lot of people were killed)
   
   Romans 1:32 "... worthy of death ... have pleasure in them ..."

All people of Holland need to repent and accept Jesus Christ as their savior! Until then, they will suffer and will burn in Hell along with other God-mocking countries like Denmark, Australia, England, The Netherlands, Scotland, New Zealand, Germany, France, Italy, Hungary, Russia, China, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Ukraine, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Somalia, Sudan, South Africa, Iceland, Vietnam, Cambodia, Guatemala, Algeria, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Qatar, etc.

Holland = the Netherlands (you mentioned them twice ) And I think you should think about what I typed above.. because your text was really hating and ignorant while you where talking about a subject you don't even know anything about, clearly. Jesus Christ said himself that you should be kind to one another and ' love one another. as I have loved you, so you must love another'. this is obviously not what you are doing!

Lots of wiseness,

Sterre ( what is dutch for stoner)

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Sterre

...Jesus Christ said himself that you should be kind to one another and ' love one another. as I have loved you, so you must love another'. this is obviously not what you are doing!...

You'll want to read that part of your Bible again, and realize that He was talking to a closed group of believers, so His instruction applies ONLY to people in that group, ie. Christians are to love fellow Christians, not everyone.

So, yeah, they're doing it right.

[Attila's Wife]

Originally Posted by Sterre

Holland = the Netherlands (you mentioned them twice ) And I think you should think about what I typed above.. because your text was really hating and ignorant while you where talking about a subject you don't even know anything about, clearly. Jesus Christ said himself that you should be kind to one another and ' love one another. as I have loved you, so you must love another'. this is obviously not what you are doing!

Friend, please do not accuse Brother Cranky of hating and being ignorant. He is one of the most loving and knowledgeable True Christians™ that I have had the pleasure to meet.

As for your comment on the words of , John 13:34-35 states:

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

As Didymus so rightly points out, and as is specifically stated, Our was speaking to his disciples. I am sure you can see that you have misunderstood His Holy Word? Remember, it is always wise to avoid attempting to "interpret" the Bible.

But thank you for taking the trouble to join us here, and for making the effort to back up your argument with Scripture (even if in this case you failed to do so). You will notice, by the way, that we use only the King James Version here.

I do hope that you will visit the Introduction Forum and start your own introductory thread, so that we may get to know you better?

Yours in Christ
AW

[Sterre]

Originally Posted by Attila's Wife

Friend, please do not accuse Brother Cranky of hating and being ignorant. He is one of the most loving and knowledgeable True Christians™ that I have had the pleasure to meet.

He is actually being ignorant. Ignorant means unknowing. In his post it shows he is unknowing because he talks about a subject he doesn't know a thing about... he writes things down that are completely untrue and giving you all a really weird view of the Netherlands. that will make you also ignorant.. because you read and believe in something that is untrue. I don't want to offend someone with this my purpose is to show you the truth .. instead of letting you believe in a load of c r a p.
And what he is saying is hating. really hating. He is making things up about Holland that are hating ... like that we aloud sex with children.
so I hope you understand my point of view here... and that you see what was wrong about his post..

lost of wiseness Sterre

[ikvindjeleuk]

*lots of wiseness

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by ikvindjeleuk

*lots of wiseness

Brilliant. Tell me more! You almost have me won over.