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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-16-2012, 10:47 PM

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Please explain how Jesus riding two animals while people throw palm fronds along His path is more "humble" than walking quietly.

You have necroposted in a two-year-old thread about a long ago wedding, and you have made the assertion that Jesus chose a particularly showy method of transport to be "humble", now explain it.

Thank you.
Please read my previous post. It is humble because that is how the Bible describes it. Who am I to question the Bible like that? I don't think it is for you to disagree with the Bible and describe the method as 'showy'..do you honestly believe that is something Jesus would choose to do?
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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-16-2012, 10:53 PM

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You said He chose riding two animals in the midst of the period approximation of a ticker-tape parade in order to "humble" Himself.

All you have demonstrated is that He did it to fulfill a prophecy, which we'd all here agree with you on.

One does not humble oneself by going from a truly humble mode of transport (quietly walking and not drawing attention) to a showy mode of transport (riding two commandeered animals while people make a big fuss).

Had He gone from riding in a horse-drawn chariot to riding the beasts of burden, then yes, "humbling" would be appropriate.

Why not admit that Jesus' mode of transport had nothing to do with "humbling" Himself, but was merely done specifically so He could fulfill a prophecy about Him, and move on?
I have shown how THE BIBLE describes Jesus riding a Donkey as humble, so to disagree is to disagree with the Bible. I will not change my belief that the Bible is true and just and 'move on'. Are you saying Jesus acted purely to just fufill a prophecy about him? Does that make sense to you?? Jesus acted according to God's will which was prophecisd..so he was doing God's will BECAUSE it was God's will.
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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-16-2012, 10:53 PM

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Please read my previous post. It is humble because that is how the Bible describes it. Who am I to question the Bible like that? I don't think it is for you to disagree with the Bible and describe the method as 'showy'..do you honestly believe that is something Jesus would choose to do?
I didn't say it wasn't humble. I said it was not done to humble Himself, when it was moving from a more humble mode to a less humble mode. That is what you have falsely asserted.

Jesus chose to ride the animals because the prophecy said that He would ride the animals, and He knew the prophecy (as you will no doubt recall, at the tender age of 12 He was debating at the Temple with the greatest scholars of the time; being God, He knows the Scriptures better than anyone).

He did not do it to "humble Himself", but specifically to fulfill the prophecy. He did a number of other things to fulfill prophecies; the Gospels even point out that He did certain things "that He would fulfill the prophecy".

Please stop ascribing motives to our Savior which are not supported by the evidence.

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Are you saying Jesus acted purely to just fufill a prophecy about him? Does that make sense to you?? Jesus acted according to God's will which was prophecisd..so he was doing God's will BECAUSE it was God's will.
And Jesus is God. Therefore, He acted out of His Own Will to fulfill a prophecy about Himself which He had inspired to be written, so He could later fulfill it.

This whole "Trinity" thing is difficult for you, isn't it?


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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-16-2012, 11:16 PM

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I didn't say it wasn't humble. I said it was not done to humble Himself, when it was moving from a more humble mode to a less humble mode. That is what you have falsely asserted.

Jesus chose to ride the animals because the prophecy said that He would ride the animals, and He knew the prophecy (as you will no doubt recall, at the tender age of 12 He was debating at the Temple with the greatest scholars of the time; being God, He knows the Scriptures better than anyone).

He did not do it to "humble Himself", but specifically to fulfill the prophecy. He did a number of other things to fulfill prophecies; the Gospels even point out that He did certain things "that He would fulfill the prophecy".

Please stop ascribing motives to our Savior which are not supported by the evidence.



And Jesus is God. Therefore, He acted out of His Own Will to fulfill a prophecy about Himself which He had inspired to be written, so He could later fulfill it.

This whole "Trinity" thing is difficult for you, isn't it?
I guess we will have to disagree. I don't think you should be mocking a fellow christian with"This whole "Trinity" thing is difficult for you, isn't it'... This is something Jesus would never do..and so something we as Christians should never do. If you truely believed I did not understand the Trinity (I feel I do) then you would offer words of encourage, support and explanation, not tones of mocking. You ignore my previous comments on the money/exspensive cars..my view is that that is not what Jesus would request. I will elave it at that and I will pray for you.
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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-17-2012, 01:31 AM

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I guess we will have to disagree. I don't think you should be mocking a fellow christian with"This whole "Trinity" thing is difficult for you, isn't it'... This is something Jesus would never do..and so something we as Christians should never do. If you truely believed I did not understand the Trinity (I feel I do) then you would offer words of encourage, support and explanation, not tones of mocking. You ignore my previous comments on the money/exspensive cars..my view is that that is not what Jesus would request. I will elave it at that and I will pray for you.
That's because the money and expensive cars are irrelevant to YOUR assertion that what Jesus (who is God) did to ensure that a prophecy He directed to be written was fulfilled was actually done to "humble Himself", in spite of the choice being something which would glorify, rather than humble, Him.

You do not appear to understand that Jesus is God, therefore He not only understood the prophecy, but ensured that it would be recorded in the past for Him to fulfill when He came to earth in human form.

So, either you are not a Christian at all, or you are an imbecile, or you are being deliberately obstreperous. Which is it?


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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-17-2012, 08:24 AM

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That's because the money and expensive cars are irrelevant to YOUR assertion that what Jesus (who is God) did to ensure that a prophecy He directed to be written was fulfilled was actually done to "humble Himself", in spite of the choice being something which would glorify, rather than humble, Him.

You do not appear to understand that Jesus is God, therefore He not only understood the prophecy, but ensured that it would be recorded in the past for Him to fulfill when He came to earth in human form.

So, either you are not a Christian at all, or you are an imbecile, or you are being deliberately obstreperous. Which is it?

You may feel I don't understand the Trinity, as a Christian you would then offer support advice instead of name call?? As a Christian we should not desire the materialistic things of this world, lots of money and exspensive cars...but instead desire God and has work everywhere.


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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-17-2012, 03:27 PM

Adam, Rev. Osborne is a very busy man. In the amount of time it will take to perform a wedding, he could of saved 10's of 1,000's of souls. Do you honestly think he should belittle the people he saves from an eternity of torment by doing a wedding 'on the cheap'? Why do you think you are better than the ex-stripper or high priced call girl? What is wrong with you?
Regarding transportation, you want the Reverend to get to the ceremony. Do you want to risk a car breakdown if the Rev. uses his own humble vehicle? Do you want the world to know you are too cheap a bastard to provide proper conveyance? Are you a joo?


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-17-2012, 09:53 PM

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Adam, Rev. Osborne is a very busy man. In the amount of time it will take to perform a wedding, he could of saved 10's of 1,000's of souls. Do you honestly think he should belittle the people he saves from an eternity of torment by doing a wedding 'on the cheap'? Why do you think you are better than the ex-stripper or high priced call girl? What is wrong with you?
Regarding transportation, you want the Reverend to get to the ceremony. Do you want to risk a car breakdown if the Rev. uses his own humble vehicle? Do you want the world to know you are too cheap a bastard to provide proper conveyance? Are you a joo?
It is GOD that saves souls..not men! It is blasphemous to say otherwise. The exspensive car is ridiculous.


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It is GOD that saves souls..not men! It is blasphemous to say otherwise. The exspensive car is ridiculous.
God works through the Rev. I have seen him perform miracles for Jesus on many occassions. Why shouldn't a man who spends his life giving get a little something from time to time?


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-18-2012, 02:10 AM

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You may feel I don't understand the Trinity, as a Christian you would then offer support advice instead of name call?? As a Christian we should not desire the materialistic things of this world, lots of money and exspensive cars...but instead desire God and has work everywhere.
I find it astounding how you obsess over yourself (a perceived slight) instead of the Truth about Jesus being also God, and how this Truth invalidates your argument.

You're an atheist, aren't you? Wouldn't it be better to just admit that you hate Jesus and want to make Him cry?


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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 07-18-2012, 06:47 AM

The Bible is VERY clear on this matter

Proverbs 30:8
Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me

1 Timothy 6:17

Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy

Philippians 4:12

I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.

Matthew 6:19-21

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Luke 16:13-17

No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.

And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Proverbs 28:20
A faithful man shall abound with blessings: but he that maketh haste to be rich shall not be innocent.

1 Timothy 6:5
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself

Psalm 49:6-7
They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches;
None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:


Luke 16:25

But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.


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The Bible is VERY clear on this matter
What matter?

You have still not explained how Jesus "humbled Himself" by changing from walking quietly and unnoticed to riding not one, but two commandeered animals belonging to someone else, while a throng waved, cheered, and laid palm fronds along His path.

It's your assertion. Explain it, or withdraw it. Simple, no?


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What matter?

You have still not explained how Jesus "humbled Himself" by changing from walking quietly and unnoticed to riding not one, but two commandeered animals belonging to someone else, while a throng waved, cheered, and laid palm fronds along His path.

It's your assertion. Explain it, or withdraw it. Simple, no?
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Default Re: I have a favor to ask Brothers - 08-09-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sick raghead terrorist View Post
i like how you all twist things to suit yourself. Sodomite fantasy deleted
You say that the good Reverend has twisted things but I see you give no evidence to back up your claim,

YIC

Jack


Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.



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