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Default Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 08-17-2013, 02:50 AM

Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys??


Friends,

Ask any atheist a question on evolution theory, you always hear the same answer : Monkeys.

Monkeys... Monkeys... Monkeys... Monkeys...

They don't even question it! No, they just take it at face value based on some silly science fiction book by some old dead guy. And no matter how many times you try to explain to them what the word 'theory' actually means, you get the same moronic response : Monkeys.

EVERYTHING comes from monkeys.

Not only that, but they fail to even address the one simple question that the ridiculous evolution theory raises : "If everything came from monkeys, then why are there monkeys still around today? Why haven't they evolved into stuff too??"

It's insane, friends. So, what?? They expect us to believe that humans came from monkeys? That cats came from monkeys? That dogs came from monkeys? That fish and birds and elephants and racoons came from monkeys?? Seriously, how can they seriously believe a monkey could turn into a gigantic fish like a whale? It's retarded!

Or what about a tree? Trees dont even have hair or tails or monkey-parts?? Still, I guess monkeys swing from trees, so they must somehow figure this means monkeys must have turned into them?? A fine example of atheist logic right there, friends, or should I say the lack of it.

Yes, further proof that atheists are just a bunch of mindless braindead sheep who will believe anything that Darwin guy tells them! And he's dead!!! I guess worshipping monkeys didn't turn out too good for him, huh?

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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 08-17-2013, 03:54 AM

Rupert Sheldrake. Maniac.

He wanted to explain just the sort of phenomenon you've highlighted, Mr Percy. How did the trees know there would be monkeys? Or monkeys, trees? To paraphrase: there was a morphic resonance prior to the separation of trees and monkeys resulting in a [time shifted, presumably] symbiosis and the perfect fit between the branch and the monkey's tail we see today.

Once the "scientist" rejects God, everything becomes warped. All theories are self-referential. If there was no "common ancestor" there would be no monkeys, apes, humans, fish or trees. Or, in Sheldrake's case, no oceans either since there would be no morphogenetic field to call them into existence.

Those are not my opinions, by the way. Just to clarify.



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Much of my work in the following years was concerned with following up these ideas and was summarised in my main theoretical work, The Presence of the Past: Morphic Resonance and the Habits of Nature, published in 1988. In late 1980s and early 1990s I explored a variety of experimental approaches for the investigation of unexplained phenomena that might help to enlarge our scientific view of the world, summarised in my book
Seven Experiments That Could Change the World: A Do-It-Yourself Guide to Revolutionary Science, (1994). [I have decided to leave the titles in the quote, hope that's OK]

One of the seven experiments concerned unexplained abilities of animals, and I published a series of papers on the unexplained powers of animals.
See papers on Unexplained Powers of Animals

I summarised much of this research in my book
Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home, And Other Unexplained Powers of Animals (1999).

Also, since the late 1980’s I have been doing research on the sense of being stared at, which has wide implications for the nature of vision and of minds, and this research was described in a series of papers
See papers on The Sense of Being Stared At .
This research is summarized in my book,
The Sense of Being Stared At, And Other Aspects of the Extended Mind (2003).

See Morphic Fields for a general introduction to the theory. [linked in the source]
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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 08-17-2013, 04:36 AM

At least we know where the AIDS came from.


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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 08-17-2013, 04:41 AM

Indeed, brother! Although I can kind of see where they get the idea.


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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 09-15-2013, 11:54 PM

The word theory in science means an explanation for an onserved set of data. It is overwhelmingly supported by evidence so much so it is ultimately a fact
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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 09-15-2013, 11:59 PM

Also humans didn't come from modern day monkeys. We share a commi ancestor about 7 million years ago there was an early form of primate, that primate split off and over millio years of evolution modern monkeys and humans were formed. And your statement about everything coming from monkeys is simply not true. All the other animals you mentioned evolved separately. They all came from a common ancestor, but none of them evolved from anything you see today. And trees shared a common ancestor with everything too, but it was a form of bacteria
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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 09-16-2013, 12:24 AM

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Also humans didn't come from modern day monkeys. We share a commi ancestor
I do not have any "commies" among my ancestors!!!!

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about 7 million years ago there was an early form of primate, that primate split off and over millio years of evolution modern monkeys and humans were formed. And your statement about everything coming from monkeys is simply not true. All the other animals you mentioned evolved separately. They all came from a common ancestor, but none of them evolved from anything you see today. And trees shared a common ancestor with everything too, but it was a form of bacteria
Care to support any of your false claim with a shred of Biblical evidence?

Also, I don't think you have an introduction thread.
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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 09-16-2013, 12:57 AM

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And trees shared a common ancestor with everything too,
So, the new deal with you atheists is we didn't come from monkeys, we came from trees.

Are you writing comedy for Christian stand ups?


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So, the new deal with you atheists is we didn't come from monkeys, we came from trees.

Are you writing comedy for Christian stand ups?
I'd heard hiccups is "proof" humans evolved from fish!





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Also humans didn't come from modern day monkeys. We share a commi ancestor about 7 million years ago there was an early form of primate, that primate split off and over millio years of evolution modern monkeys and humans were formed. And your statement about everything coming from monkeys is simply not true. All the other animals you mentioned evolved separately. They all came from a common ancestor, but none of them evolved from anything you see today. And trees shared a common ancestor with everything too, but it was a form of bacteria
You know, I've heard that explanation about the monkeys before. Every time I visit a zoo and ponder this I wonder why it is that I am on the outside of the cage and they are on the inside - or more directly, why I can read the New York Times and they can't.

So, if trees came from bacteria then where did animals come from?

All this science stuff sounds great on paper sometimes, but the bottom line is that they can't even figure out where Obama was really born.


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Also humans didn't come from modern day monkeys. We share a common ancestor about 7 million years ago there was an early form of primate, that primate split off and over millio years of evolution modern monkeys and humans were formed. And your statement about everything coming from monkeys is simply not true. All the other animals you mentioned evolved separately. They all came from a common ancestor, but none of them evolved from anything you see today. And trees shared a common ancestor with everything too, but it was a form of bacteria
Oh really? Were you around then? Did you watch this "common ancestor" in the woods, monitor its behavior patterns, see it reproduce? I don't think so. Sounds like your so-called "ultimately" factual theory is just as unsupported as Pilt Down Man or the hodgepodge idea that birds used to be dinosaurs.

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The word theory in science means an explanation for an onserved set of data. It is overwhelmingly supported by evidence so much so it is ultimately a fact
No, the word 'theory' means 'I refuse to listen to the facts and have instead choosen a completely irrational, make beleive explanation.'

We follow the Bible friend, filled with first hand accounting of the facts regarding the Creation by God.


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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 10-06-2013, 08:49 PM

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No, the word 'theory' means 'I refuse to listen to the facts and have instead choosen a completely irrational, make beleive explanation.'

We follow the Bible friend, filled with first hand accounting of the facts regarding the Creation by God.
You literally made me laugh out loud. Refuse to listen to facts you say? Then why do you even listen to the Bible? Was it because it was beaten on your head as a small child forcing you to believe in a false deity?


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You literally made me laugh out loud. Refuse to listen to facts you say? Then why do you even listen to the Bible? Was it because it was beaten on your head as a small child forcing you to believe in a false deity?
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You literally made me laugh out loud. Refuse to listen to facts you say? Then why do you even listen to the Bible? Was it because it was beaten on your head as a small child forcing you to believe in a false deity?
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...Was it because it was beaten on your head as a small child forcing you to believe in a false deity?
If God was a false deity, wouldn't He tell us? He is omnipotent, you know.

Silly atheist.


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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 09-18-2013, 09:27 PM

I fail to see the logic in the argument. if you believe in a LUCA ( last universal common ancestor ) why is there anything but that? if we evolved from single cell organisms why are single cell organisms still around?

and your criticism of following books written by dead men isn't very impactful when you consider the devotion you show to the bible. which is a book written by some dead guys.

lastly I fail to see how evolution has to be false to validate god's existence. god's image is fairly abstract a concept.
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I fail to see the logic in the argument. if you believe in a LUCA ( last universal common ancestor ) why is there anything but that? if we evolved from single cell organisms why are single cell organisms still around?

and your criticism of following books written by dead men isn't very impactful when you consider the devotion you show to the bible. which is a book written by some dead guys.

lastly I fail to see how evolution has to be false to validate god's existence. god's image is fairly abstract a concept.
You may well have an abstract nebulous thing conceptualised somewhere. We don't. God is more real that the reality we encounter day by day, more alive than we are. Greater than the universe, regardless of how you imagine the universe, because He CREATED the universe. He is the author of life. His reality is complete, ours meagre.
I Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. KJV
But I'm sensing confusion here. Why are there single celled organisms? Because they have not evolved. Where is my LUCA? There is no such thing (obviously). Darwinists do not accept The Truth. If they did, we would not need medicine.

The Bible is clear, servitude unto Mammon is incompatible with serving God. Christians do not worship Mammon. Satan uses secularism and evolutionists to spread nonsense and just look around. Did you ever see such a mess?

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There it is set out very plainly. How could those events have occurred if there were no God? That is the Darwinist position.
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Default Re: Why Do Atheists Believe Everything Came From Monkeys? - 09-18-2013, 10:13 PM

I sure hope I'm not a monkey.

Does "evolutionists" believe that Jesus was once a monkey, too? Why do they hate Him?


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I sure hope I'm not a monkey.

Does "evolutionists" believe that Jesus was once a monkey, too? Why do they hate Him?
It varies. Either they say He is descended from a gorilla, maybe something else—like a jellyfish—Or they say He never existed at all, pointing to their version of history and using secularist standards of evidence.
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