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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 05-24-2011, 02:08 PM

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The truth is this: God hates the condition of a cripple, not the person who is in such condition.
So you say that God hates himself, because he has made the condition?

Yes, Jesus chose to heal a few cripples because they repented. They started to really believe in God. But they were cripples in the first place because they deserved it.

So you didn't read this thread from the beginning? You never learn?

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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 05-24-2011, 02:33 PM

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So you say that God hates himself, because he has made the condition?

Yes, Jesus chose to heal a few cripples because they repented. They started to really believe in God. But they were cripples in the first place because they deserved it.

So you didn't read this thread from the beginning? You never learn?

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So if someone is born blind, it's because they don't follow God? Are you even close to being intelligent? Or can you not discern truth from Satan's lies?
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So if someone is born blind
He is born blind because he is either soulless shell send as punishment for the parents or he is evil.

Although blindness is quite minor punishment, there could be some other reasons for that


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So if someone is born blind, it's because they don't follow God? Are you even close to being intelligent? Or can you not discern truth from Satan's lies?
What's your view on dyslexia? You're not going to tell me that something so acutely embarrassing and employment-impeding arose through natural selection are you?
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 05-25-2011, 02:53 AM

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I know this is an old post, but even Jesus healed the crippled. If you are going to say that God hates cripples, then you don't know God very well at all. You, my friend, are choosing to be in a lukewarm state, and according to Revelation, God will reject those in such a state.
You didn't bother to read through the whole thread did you. Sure, Jesus healed cripples....SOME of them. Why didn't He heal them all if he loved them so much?

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The truth is this: God hates the condition of a cripple, not the person who is in such condition.
Don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

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[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 07-09-2011, 03:58 PM

As if more evidence was needed!




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DARIEN, N.Y. (AP) — An investigation is under way into a roller coaster accident in upstate New York that killed an Army veteran who lost both his legs to a roadside bomb in Iraq. Teams of inspectors on Saturday were examining the Ride of Steel roller coaster at the Darien Lake Theme Park Resort, about 30 miles east of Buffalo. James Hackemer, of Gowanda, died Friday evening when he was ejected from the ride. The 29-year-old was missing both legs and part of a hip. The amusement park stayed open after the accident. Patrons were arriving again on Saturday morning.

(And, don't you have to be "that" tall to ride those things?)


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If that gimp had been at home reading the Holy Bible instead of forcing us all to look at it in a public place, it might be alive today.


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 07-11-2011, 02:36 AM

The spastic went out in public? I'm glad I wasn't there.

Oh well, at least he was punished, every cloud has a silver lining.


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 07-11-2011, 08:51 AM

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The Lord is very clear about what should happen to those He has chosen to smite with crippliness:
Deuteronomy 28:27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.

28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: 29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.


Please forgive me if I am mistaken, but does this mean that GOD hates hospitals, charities and the paraLIEmpics? And therefore to an extent, Doctors, Surgeons and all other medical practitioners except a good Pastor in his church?
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Please forgive me if I am mistaken, but does this mean that GOD hates hospitals, charities and the paraLIEmpics? And therefore to an extent, Doctors, Surgeons and all other medical practitioners except a good Pastor in his church?
God has a monopoly on all things medical. If you are sick, it is His will. If you get well, it is His will. There is no sense in interfering with His omnipotence.

Exodus 15:26 (King James Version) 26And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.


Deuteronomy 7:15 (King James Version) 15And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee.


Psalm 103:1-5 (King James Version) 1Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. 2Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: 3Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases; 4Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies; 5Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.


Psalm 103:2-3 (King James Version) 2Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: 3Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;


Psalm 107:19-20 (King James Version) 19Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saveth them out of their distresses. 20He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.


Psalm 147:3 (King James Version) 3He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.


Proverbs 3:7-8 (King James Version) 7Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. 8It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.


Isaiah 19:22 (King James Version) 22And the LORD shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the LORD, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them.


Isaiah 53:5 (King James Version) 5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.


Isaiah 57:17-18 (King James Version) 17For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. 18I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners.


Jeremiah 30:12-14, 17 12For thus saith the LORD, Thy bruise is incurable, and thy wound is grievous. 13There is none to plead thy cause, that thou mayest be bound up: thou hast no healing medicines. 14All thy lovers have forgotten thee; they seek thee not; for I have wounded thee with the wound of an enemy, with the chastisement of a cruel one, for the multitude of thine iniquity; because thy sins were increased.17For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD; because they called thee an Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after.


Malachi 4:2 (King James Version) 2But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 07-11-2011, 11:53 AM

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Please forgive me if I am mistaken, but does this mean that GOD hates hospitals, charities and the paraLIEmpics? And therefore to an extent, Doctors, Surgeons and all other medical practitioners except a good Pastor in his church?
  1. Charities are a waste of time in my opinion, why should we help those shameless beggars who have wronged Christ? Anyone who benefits from charity is a horrible person:
    Psalm 37:25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.

  2. Of course GOD hates the paralympics, He hates cripples so why would He not hate a whole stadium full of them!
  3. I don't think He has a lot of time for hospitals, they are full of Scientists after all (1 Timothy 6:20) and He says the best way to heal is through prayer (II Kings 20:5), especially if a Pastor prays FOR you! (James 5:14-15).

Hospitals are for sinners anyway, since True Christians™ shouldn't get sick:

Exodus 15:26: "...If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.


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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 07-22-2011, 11:54 AM

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The Lord is very clear about what should happen to those He has chosen to smite with crippliness:
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Deuteronomy 28:27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.

28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:

29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.

"And no man shall save thee". Not "no man except the liberals", not "no man except the Big Government"... if the Lord wanted people to help the disabled, He'd have let us know.
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 07-23-2011, 12:10 AM

You know, it took two minutes out of my Bible Study time tonight to re-format your post in order to make it readable at all. Please make an effort to be coherent.

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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 10-19-2011, 07:46 PM

I'm 21 years old and was born with spina bifida, and walk with crutches. How in the world am I damned to hell? My family is full of good people who have spent their lives helping others and praising God. I, myself, am a woman of God as well. I don't understand how you could possibly say that after I spend my days praising God even through my darkest hours that I am going to hell anyways. I don't feel like I am a mistake.
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I'm 21 years old and was born with spina bifida, and walk with crutches. How in the world am I damned to hell? My family is full of good people who have spent their lives helping others and praising God. I, myself, am a woman of God as well. I don't understand how you could possibly say that after I spend my days praising God even through my darkest hours that I am going to hell anyways. I don't feel like I am a mistake.
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I'm 21 years old and was born with spina bifida, and walk with crutches. How in the world am I damned to hell? My family is full of good people who have spent their lives helping others and praising God. I, myself, am a woman of God as well. I don't understand how you could possibly say that after I spend my days praising God even through my darkest hours that I am going to hell anyways. I don't feel like I am a mistake.
It's explained here:

Romans 9:20-24: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?


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Romans 9:20-24: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
So, I'm just trying to understand, even though I have prayed for healing before, I'm still going to hell and it is inevitable?
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 10-20-2011, 02:24 AM

Well, "pastor," forget my question since it was simply rhetorical. I know that I am going to Heaven and your "church" is the reason that organized religion is on the out. I have an amazing relationship with the Lord and know that there is a purpose for my condition (not the mockery of others). I am going to make a good difference in this world and spread God's love and ACCEPTANCE, and will pray for you all that you can find it in your hearts to do the same. I am done here. If you are so narrow-minded to think that just because we are different we're condemned to Hell, then go ahead and cast me out. I cannot believe the lies and hatred on this forum and the fact that you can even call yourselves Christians astounds me. I pray God works in your hearts and helps open your eyes.
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I am going to Heaven.
Have you ever watched these shows like American idol? You are bit like these horrible singers who get all upset when they are turned down, because their mothers and sisters and husbands and whatnots have always lied to them that they are good singers.

It's same way here. You are upset because some false-Christians have lied to you. Bible is quite clear about this matter. You should ask your parents what they have really done to anger God so much that He has cursed you with heaven denying affliction.

God never said that you would be accepted to heaven, so don't be mad at Him. It's your "church" and parents you should be mad at.
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Default Re: God Hates Cripples - 10-20-2011, 02:58 AM

You are right. Allow me to rephrase. I will do everything in my power to ensure that I do go to Heaven. However, no one has lied to me about God's acceptance of me. I hold no anger toward anyone.
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