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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimei
God hates hypocrites, “Why do you call me Lord, Lord and not do what I say?”
John 1:14 says Jesus came full of grace and truth. Every human interaction was guided by grace and truth and, therefore, we too should relate to others in the same manner. The blending of grace and truth, the way we stand for truth is very challenging. Hypocrites just may be one of the enemies of the Kingdom, however, without agape we have no right to call ourselves Christians.
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Ugh...yes, but God doesn't hate. If he did, Jesus wouldn't have died for our sins!
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:12 AM
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I'm not talking about the people who maintain the website...
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That'd be the same group of people.
Does calling other people names often help to convince them that you have a valid argument?
Side note: for you to insult me, I'd have to respect your judgement. And guess what?
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...And Jesus died for ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM!...
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That's what the Bible says (well, believe in Him, get baptised and do exactly as He tells you to do for the rest of your life, to be exact). Are you going to start believing it now, instead of BS such as "Jesus died for people that hate him", like you were spouting earlier?
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:13 AM
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Ugh...yes, but God doesn't hate. If he did, Jesus wouldn't have died for our sins!
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God hates all that do iniquity. He is as Just as much as Loving.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:19 AM
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Jesus died for ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM! Certainly doesn't mean everyone will believe but anyone who does will be saved.
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And those who follow His every word down to the letter.
John 3:19-21
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth (good) cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
John 5:29
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimei
God hates hypocrites, “Why do you call me Lord, Lord and not do what I say?”...
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You're saying I'm God-like? *blushing*
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...John 1:14 says Jesus came full of grace and truth...
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Yes, it does.
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...Every human interaction was guided by grace and truth...
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Screech, stop, whoa, Nellie. Where does it say that in the Bible?
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...and, therefore, we too should relate to others in the same manner...
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Oh, no, you don't. You're operating on an unfounded assumption (see above), therefore any conclusion you draw is unjustified.
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...The blending of grace and truth, the way we stand for truth is very challenging. Hypocrites just may be one of the enemies of the Kingdom, however, without agape we have no right to call ourselves Christians.
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Without following every word of the Bible as God's Truth, you have no right to call yourself Christian.
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
Standing there with your mouth open just makes you look stupid.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimei
I think there is a distinction between passive belief and action based on that belief. Perhaps you know this already, but if not it's the difference between simply being a fan or a true follower of Jesus.
And I like your quote Jerrymias7, for whosoever believes has the gift of redemption through Jesus. The redemption began with God's love.
Praise Him!!!
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Amen!
And up at the top it says, "unsaved unwelcome," doesn't sound right to me. Jesus never rejected anybody. He healed the sick, liberated that captive, loved all.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Didymus Much
You're saying I'm God-like? *blushing*
Yes, it does.
Screech, stop, whoa, Nellie. Where does it say that in the Bible?
Oh, no, you don't. You're operating on an unfounded assumption (see above), therefore any conclusion you draw is unjustified.
Without following every word of the Bible as God's Truth, you have no right to call yourself Christian.
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
Standing there with your mouth open just makes you look stupid.
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To support what Jerrymias7 said.
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
1 John 4:10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.
Truth is, and not to deliberately belittle you in front of your peers, but even the gift of recalling Scripture sounds like a brazen cymbal without the Loving spirit in which Scripture was written.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimei
To support what Jerrymias7 said.
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
1 John 4:10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.
Truth is, and not to deliberately belittle you in front of your peers, but even the gift of recalling Scripture sounds like a brazen cymbal without the Loving spirit in which Scripture was written.
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Book, chapter, and verse, please.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:34 AM
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...Truth is, and not to deliberately belittle you in front of your peers, but even the gift of recalling Scripture sounds like a brazen cymbal without the Loving spirit in which Scripture was written.
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1) Don't worry about my peers, I have none here.
2) Even after I pointed out that Jerry lost by using a fallacy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well) you do exactly the same? I'd started to expect better from you.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Didymus Much
You're saying I'm God-like? *blushing*
Yes, it does.
Screech, stop, whoa, Nellie. Where does it say that in the Bible?
Oh, no, you don't. You're operating on an unfounded assumption (see above), therefore any conclusion you draw is unjustified.
Without following every word of the Bible as God's Truth, you have no right to call yourself Christian.
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
Standing there with your mouth open just makes you look stupid.
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You must be one of those people who like to speak before they think. Use your brain and analyse what you are reading! Don't fool yourself. Go and read chapter one of Proverbs and stop with your blasphemies!
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerrymias7
You must be one of those people who like to speak before they think. Use your brain and analyse what you are reading! Don't fool yourself. Go and read chapter one of Proverbs and stop with your blasphemies!
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Are you retarded? He's a Jesus-hater like you.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:49 AM
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Book, chapter, and verse, please.
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I believe he did give you the book, chapter and verse, can't you read?
Romans 5:8
1John 4:10
So far I've received about 10 infractions in one night. Hahah their reasons are ridiculous!
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 08:52 AM
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You must be one of those people who like to speak before they think...
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Stop with the fallacies already. That's an ad hominem.
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...Use your brain and analyse what you are reading!...
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I could do that, but if I was a Christian, I'd probably prefer to do what God says:
2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
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...Don't fool yourself...
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I'm not the one pretending to be Christian.
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...Go and read chapter one of Proverbs...
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You, too.
Proverbs 1:28-30 " 28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof."
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...and stop with your blasphemies!
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Quoting the Bible is blasphemy to you?
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 09:00 AM
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Book, chapter, and verse, please.
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Hello Zechariah,
I am not going to do a word study for Love here, nor quote everything that I base my thoughts upon at this time. Lemme share this:
I have been baptized in the recent week, and feel nothing but Love! No longer am I under the law as of works, nor exposed to the curse. Romans 8 says the sinful mind is hostile towards God, and perhaps that could explain what I had felt before, long ago. However, I feel nothing but love for God now. The spirit helps us in our weakness, and we are called according to His purpose and made to the likeness of His Son. How can I feel anything but love knowing that I have received this grace and the intercession of the Spirit in part for Love !!! Is it not my purpose to bring about the kingdom upon the earth as it is in heaven? So too to Love the World and help spread the Good News?
Now before anybody comes down upon me for this love that I am overflowing with at this time, I am reminded that all Scripture is God breathed as in Timothy 3:16. That breath inspires, and whereever I turn in the Bible, I see whosoever Jesus healed He raised up and rose up above the occasion. Obedience is now written in my heart in grace and in love. And I can't hide this or mask it before anyone.
But to answer your question I was thinking of Paul, talking about the spiritual gifts as being useless without love.
God Bless and Praise Him!!!
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 09:12 AM
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I believe he did give you the book, chapter and verse, can't you read?
Romans 5:8
1John 4:10
So far I've received about 10 infractions in one night. Hahah their reasons are ridiculous!
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Neither of those verses say anything about Scripture being written with love.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 09:19 AM
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Hello Zechariah,
I am not going to do a word study for Love here, nor quote everything that I base my thoughts upon at this time. Lemme share this:
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You could've just said, "Sorry, the Bible doesn't actually say that" and saved everyone a lot of time.
YiC,
Zech
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Didymus Much
Stop with the fallacies already. That's an ad hominem.
I could do that, but if I was a Christian, I'd probably prefer to do what God says:
2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
I'm not the one pretending to be Christian.
You, too.
Proverbs 1:28-30 " 28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof."
Quoting the Bible is blasphemy to you?
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Your a hypocrite. I was told I was a cherry picker I stated what I thought I agreed with but, that is exactly what you are doing.
Anyways, we're way off topic here. My point was if you want to change My Chemical Romance, Love them First. If you keep hating on them the way you do, nothing will be fixed. Things will just get worse. And get your facts right. They are not emo (at least not anymore) and they are not gay. Confused maybe, like you, but again Take the time to appreciate them and love them back and you will see the change.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 05:07 PM
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Your a hypocrite....
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First off:
YOUR = belonging to you
YOU'RE = contraction of "you are"
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hyp·o·crite noun \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\
Definition of HYPOCRITE
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite
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Now show me where I fit either of those definitions, or withdraw your remark.
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...I was told I was a cherry picker I stated what I thought I agreed with but, that is exactly what you are doing...
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Cherry-picking is not quoting Scripture that agrees with your point, but ignoring Scripture that denies your point. Once again, please show us where this has occurred.
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...Anyways, we're way off topic here. My point was if you want to change My Chemical Romance, Love them First. If you keep hating on them the way you do, nothing will be fixed...
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Nobody here hates them.
For someone who's so full of "Love" you're awfully fixated on finding hatred everywhere you look.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 06:02 PM
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I have been baptized in the recent week....
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How do you know this one will take any more than the last one?
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! -
03-01-2013, 06:06 PM
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Your a hypocrite. I was told I was a cherry picker I stated what I thought I agreed with but, that is exactly what you are doing.
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Didymus doesn't cherry pick any parts out of Holy Scripture. He rejects it all equally.
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Anyways, we're way off topic here. My point was if you want to change My Chemical Romance, Love them First.
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What could be more loving than to show someone the path to safety and Salvation©? If you mean to suggest we pretend to respect them, the dangers they promote to otherwise innocent souls, ignore the work they do for Satan, in what way would that be loving? You people confuse me.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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