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Default Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 08-26-2012, 09:41 PM

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Reading over this site is actually making me want to shoot myself in the face,
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You say that the world has only been around for 6000 years yet the small fact of dinosaur bones found all over the world doesn't raise questions for you?
Not at all. They were buried in the Flood, and mineralized under the great pressure of all the water compressing the sediments. It ain't rocket science.

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Carbon dating is a proven test that is 100% accurate and tests how old a certain object is
Do tell, what fossils have been carbon-dated? Please provide an example.

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Red face Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 08-27-2012, 06:17 AM

As I am on a phone I regrettably cannot post links.

Carbon, over time deteriorates at a certain rate which is then mathematically calculated to prove how old a given object is.

To the dinosaur theory, I read above that "the earth has been around for 6000 years" (not actual quote but simplified) yet now you say that they have been lying in the ground which pretty much contradicts yourself now.

I'm leading to believe I'm conversing with people pretending to have a intellectual disorder so that they can "skate by" in life.

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Default Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 08-27-2012, 06:31 AM

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...Carbon dating is a proven test that is 100% accurate and tests how old a certain object is...
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...Do tell, what fossils have been carbon-dated? Please provide an example...
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...Carbon, over time deteriorates at a certain rate which is then mathematically calculated to prove how old a given object is...
Please read this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dating and then get back to the Rev's question.

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As I am on a phone I regrettably cannot post links.

Carbon, over time deteriorates at a certain rate which is then mathematically calculated to prove how old a given object is.

To the dinosaur theory, I read above that "the earth has been around for 6000 years" (not actual quote but simplified) yet now you say that they have been lying in the ground which pretty much contradicts yourself now.

I'm leading to believe I'm conversing with people pretending to have a intellectual disorder so that they can "skate by" in life.

TL;DR- no heaven or hell. Just a hole in the ground when you die.
Not that I believe any of that science BS, but I clicked that link that Didymus posted and it said that this so-called carbon dating only works (supposedly) for stuff up to about 60,000 years. I read that scientists claim (wrongly) that dinosaurs, or more correctly behemoths, lived millions of years ago.

So, even though it's all made up anyway, your science pals can't even get their wrong stories straight!




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As I am on a phone I regrettably cannot post links.

Carbon, over time deteriorates at a certain rate which is then mathematically calculated to prove how old a given object is.

To the dinosaur theory, I read above that "the earth has been around for 6000 years" (not actual quote but simplified) yet now you say that they have been lying in the ground which pretty much contradicts yourself now.

I'm leading to believe I'm conversing with people pretending to have a intellectual disorder so that they can "skate by" in life.

TL;DR- no heaven or hell. Just a hole in the ground when you die.
You have no idea about the science you are pathetically trying to champion. Carbon dating is not used to date fossils because they are made of rock. Go and look it up. Don't make the mistake of assuming we know nothing of the false claims made by science. You are an embarrassment to atheism.



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Default Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 08-27-2012, 11:24 AM

Your constantly attempting to find flaws in science yet you have not yet given any evidence at proving there is a god. Stating some writing from a book as evidence makes you neive, for all you know it could have been written by anyone. I could write a book right now rambling on and on and in say a thousand years someone could find it, read it and believe it.

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Reading over this site is actually making me want to shoot myself in the face, your constant ramblings about how every theory has led to a "dead end" or "backtrack" continues to astound me. You say that the world has only been around for 6000 years yet the small fact of dinosaur bones found all over the world doesn't raise questions for you? Carbon dating is a proven test that is 100% accurate and tests how old a certain object is (for the lesser educated) yet you choose to believe everything in a book that for all you know could have been written by a guy named Steve in the 3rd century for a laugh.

I don't like hating on other peoples beliefs but reading this thread along with the downs syndrome is a life choice? You're actually joking right? I have grown up with people with disabilities including downs syndrome and cerebral paulsy and for you to say that for their whole life they put on an act sickens me. It's the preachers like you that force your beliefs down the throats of the regular every day person who we do not need in our society.
Carbon dating is not 100% accurate (by definition) and cannot be used to date dinosaur fossils (over 60k years).

Honestly, if you want to beat these bible thumpers get you facts right: you are giving atheists a bad name.



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Your constantly attempting to find flaws in science yet you have not yet given any evidence at proving there is a god. Stating some writing from a book as evidence makes you neive, for all you know it could have been written by anyone. I could write a book right now rambling on and on and in say a thousand years someone could find it, read it and believe it.

Jesus may have been a real guy, for all you know he was born to a slut who didn't want to tell her husband she had an affair, this guy went and helped out some people then died. Have you ever played a game of Chinese whispers? Where you start with one sentence then after it passes through a dozen people ends up being completely different. Think about it.
For all we know? The Bible tells us so, little miss cleverclogs. Good luck with your clever plan to write a book as flawless and perfect and internally consistent as the Bible and have it believed in a thousand years. Let me know when you have proof of your success.



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Carbon, over time deteriorates at a certain rate which is then mathematically calculated to prove how old a given object is.
Dear Retard:

I asked you which fossils have been carbon-dated. Please provide examples.

I, and my Brothers here (and the two atheists), all know how carbon dating supposedly works. You clearly do not. And the atheists are right; you are an embarrassment to all atheists.

They should know.

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Er, no, it doesn't.

I said they were buried in the Flood. A bit over 4,000 years ago. Fossilization can occur very fast at high pressures. Go look it up, ignoramus.
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No, we're constantly very easily finding flaws in your understanding of so-called science.

OK, maybe "flaws" isn't the right word.

"Gaping chasms" might be better.

Go read a science book and learn more about the theories you supposedly believe before trying to explain them to those of us who already understand them, OK kid?


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Default Periodic Table of the Elements Proves Science is Wrong - 08-29-2012, 02:47 PM

Periodic Table of the Elements Proves Science is Wrong
Scientists can’t even agree on something as supposedly basic as what they call the Periodic Table of the Elements. If they can’t prove this theory then how in Heaven can they claim to be able to prove anything else? Since 1923 they have ADDED 26 “NEW” elements, well if these are “NEW” and scientist claim that everything was created with the so called “Big Bang” where did these new elements come from? In 1902 they added an extra column to the right side of the table and even more suspicious in 1940 they added two whole extra rows to the bottom. Boy, some scientist even disagree with where Helium and Hydrogen should go on this “Periodic Table” It’s even more stupid…in 1914 they changed the whole thing to go by atomic numbers instead of atomic weights. What the problem? Well if science can’t even get something a basic as a list of chemicals right and have to keep adjusting and changing it, how can “science” hope to get anything else right?
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Scientists can’t even agree on something as supposedly basic as what they call the Periodic Table of the Elements. If they can’t prove this theory then how in Heaven can they claim to be able to prove anything else? Since 1923 they have ADDED 26 “NEW” elements, well if these are “NEW” and scientist claim that everything was created with the so called “Big Bang” where did these new elements come from? In 1902 they added an extra column to the right side of the table and even more suspicious in 1940 they added two whole extra rows to the bottom. Boy, some scientist even disagree with where Helium and Hydrogen should go on this “Periodic Table” It’s even more stupid…in 1914 they changed the whole thing to go by atomic numbers instead of atomic weights. What the problem? Well if science can’t even get something a basic as a list of chemicals right and have to keep adjusting and changing it, how can “science” hope to get anything else right?
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Thumbs down Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 10-08-2012, 08:25 PM

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Scientists used to believe that 'the universe' was eternal. It never started and would never end. They now agree that it started at a specific time.

It won't be too long before they have to backtrack again and admit that their guess of 13.7 billion years ago is wrong and that the correct age is around 6000 years.

Just watch all the atheists come flooding back to God then.

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Periodic Table of the Elements Proves Science is Wrong
Scientists can’t even agree on something as supposedly basic as what they call the Periodic Table of the Elements. If they can’t prove this theory then how in Heaven can they claim to be able to prove anything else? Since 1923 they have ADDED 26 “NEW” elements, well if these are “NEW” and scientist claim that everything was created with the so called “Big Bang” where did these new elements come from? In 1902 they added an extra column to the right side of the table and even more suspicious in 1940 they added two whole extra rows to the bottom. Boy, some scientist even disagree with where Helium and Hydrogen should go on this “Periodic Table” It’s even more stupid…in 1914 they changed the whole thing to go by atomic numbers instead of atomic weights. What the problem? Well if science can’t even get something a basic as a list of chemicals right and have to keep adjusting and changing it, how can “science” hope to get anything else right?
Uh, science works BECAUSE there is disagreement. Without that there would never be any forward progress. Because science, unlike you people, is not afraid to question its own findings when new information comes to light. Also, the periodic table is much more than just "a list of chemicals," and those "new" elements were always there, scientists just hadn't observed them up to that point.
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Default Re: Periodic Table of the Elements Proves Science is Wrong - 10-08-2012, 08:33 PM

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Because science, unlike you people, is not afraid to question its own findings when new information comes to light.
What makes you think we fear new information? It just so happens that no new information has ever contradicted the information the LORD has given to us already in His Perfect Word, the Holy Bible.



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Uh, science works BECAUSE there is disagreement. Without that there would never be any forward progress. Because science, unlike you people, is not afraid to question its own findings when new information comes to light. Also, the periodic table is much more than just "a list of chemicals," and those "new" elements were always there, scientists just hadn't observed them up to that point.
so if Julius Caesar had looked at a lump of "praeseodymium" what would he have seen? A blank space?


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Default Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 10-17-2012, 02:49 AM

I honestly thought that the original poster of this was a sarcastic atheist when I saw those flow charts.
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Default Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 12-22-2012, 08:48 AM

The flow chart's right but there's one thing missing.

Scientists actually review their theories when new facts are discovered. They're willing to change and listen to other people.

The type of Christians here are exactly like the flow chart's description. Some guy decided to write a bible, thousands of years later a bunch of idiots are still following it to the letter.

Use the brain that God supposedly gave you and think about things before making stuff up. Actually, you didn't even make anything up, some other guy did it for you. You're a horde of followers who can't think for yourselves because you probably got brainwashed by your parents or some preacher somewhere.

Nothing against Christians here but the hostility against everyone else's beliefs shows some hardcore close-mindedness. I just don't think any of you get the point of religion.

And now, let the illogical senseless argument commence.
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Default Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 12-22-2012, 05:25 PM

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...And now, let the illogical senseless argument commence.
What commence? It's been going on for thousands of years already, but I suppose it's somehow our fault that you've missed most of it.

If you'd like to catch up, start with some Greek philosophers (the first recorded atheists), then move on through the early Christian theologians (with Eastern and Chinese schools of thought for counterpoints). Then you can pretty much skip the next 1000 years or so until the Enlightenment makes things interesting again.

I have a reading list that covers most of the basics you'll need to partake in the discussions. With diligence, it should only take you 12-15 years to work through.


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Default Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 12-22-2012, 07:35 PM

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The flow chart's right but there's one thing missing.

Scientists actually review their theories when new facts are discovered. They're willing to change and listen to other people.
That's an urban myth. Scientists are payed to find whatever results in their research that the pharmacy company wants them to find.


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Default Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram! - 12-23-2012, 12:31 AM

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Scientists actually review their theories when new facts are discovered. They're willing to change and listen to other people.
Creation scientists have discovered mountains of evidence against evolution and in favor of a young earth and a worldwide Flood, but mainstream science just ignores it. They're not willing to listen or change. They only look for evidence that fits their worldview, that is, that God doesn't exist and that man evolved.

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The type of Christians here are exactly like the flow chart's description. Some guy decided to write a bible, thousands of years later a bunch of idiots are still following it to the letter.
Men inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible. It isn't made up.

2 Pet 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Science is a wishy-washy belief system. It keeps changing. The theory of evolution has changed many times over the last 150 years. Science is a man-made religion. Men in white coats in a lab somewhere make it all up as they go along. Wouldn't you rather believe in God's infallible, unchanging Word?

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God doesn't want us to think for ourselves.

Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

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Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

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Nothing against Christians here but the hostility against everyone else's beliefs shows some hardcore close-mindedness. I just don't think any of you get the point of religion.
And what is the point of religion, exactly? To be open-minded?


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