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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 04:32 AM
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I watched my friend die in the desert of Iraq.
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Are you claiming to be a member of the United States Armed Forces, pal? Because that can be verified, and making such claims falsely is not only a serious sin it is a federal offense.
If your friend died in Iraquistan it was because Jesus wanted it so. That's what the Bible says and I for one believe it.
And by the way. There are ways of telling for certain what the one TRUE Word of God is. Please see my sermon on the subject HERE.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 04:38 AM
You want a straight literal answer? No I do not follow the Bible. I follow my own set of moral ethics and code of conduct. And so far in my life, I've been kept in a straight line. I also know people that do not follow a single word the bible says and lead far purer lives then any christian I know including myself. God is about love dear girl. If he wasn't then we as humanity would have killed each other off long long ago.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 04:42 AM
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You want a straight literal answer? No I do not follow the Bible. I follow my own set of moral ethics and code of conduct. And so far in my life, I've been kept in a straight line. I also know people that do not follow a single word the bible says and lead far purer lives then any christian I know including myself. God is about love dear girl. If he wasn't then we as humanity would have killed each other off long long ago.
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So in otherwords, you're an atheist who has declared himself God. YOU decide what is moral and what is immoral.
Do you really think the real God is going to be pleased with that?
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 04:43 AM
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You want a straight literal answer? No I do not follow the Bible. I follow my own set of moral ethics and code of conduct. And so far in my life, I've been kept in a straight line. I also know people that do not follow a single word the bible says and lead far purer lives then any christian I know including myself. God is about love dear girl. If he wasn't then we as humanity would have killed each other off long long ago.
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I reject this argument outright. Without God there is no morality. Without the Bible there is no God.
QED, you need a rule book to know how to get to heaven.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 04:47 AM
You want to look me up and see if I am a service Member? Gladly, Im stationed in Germany, with Bco 412th ASB, part of the 12th CAB. MY Rank is Specialist. And I am about join the humble 25th ID stationed in Hawaii. In Iraq I was based at COB Adder, or Ali Al Saleem Airbase. My name is Nicholas Quinton. If you have the need look me up. And Pastor, if I want a sermon I will ask my Chaplain.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 04:48 AM
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You want to look me up and see if I am a service Member? Gladly, Im stationed in Germany, with Bco 412th ASB, part of the 12th CAB. MY Rank is Specialist. And I am about join the humble 25th ID stationed in Hawaii. In Iraq I was based at COB Adder, or Ali Al Saleem Airbase. My name is Nicholas Quinton. If you have the need look me up. And Pastor, if I want a sermon I will ask my Chaplain.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 04:51 AM
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You want a straight literal answer? No I do not follow the Bible. I follow my own set of moral ethics and code of conduct. And so far in my life, I've been kept in a straight line. I also know people that do not follow a single word the bible says and lead far purer lives then any christian I know including myself. God is about love dear girl. If he wasn't then we as humanity would have killed each other off long long ago.
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And do you imagine that following your own personal moral code will get you into Heaven?
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2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
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Please see THIS excellent sermon by Pastor Billy-Reuben entitled "Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"."
I'm trying to help you, son.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 04:51 AM
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You want a straight literal answer? No I do not follow the Bible. I follow my own set of moral ethics and code of conduct. And so far in my life, I've been kept in a straight line. I also know people that do not follow a single word the bible says and lead far purer lives then any christian I know including myself. God is about love dear girl. If he wasn't then we as humanity would have killed each other off long long ago.
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I'm an atheist. I'm well aware that you don't need to believe in a God to have moral ethics. However, I do have to wonder how you can claim with such certainty that your version of God is right when you have exactly as much prove as these Landover people - namely, NONE.
If God is doing such a wonderful job protecting humanity from killing each other, then why are you in a war? Why did your friends die?
List of wars and anthropogenic disasters by death toll
Just a short list of the millions and BILLIONS of people who have been killed in wars and man-made disasters (genocides, famine, human sacrifice/ritual suicide, colonization, germ warfare, slave trades). All without your loving God stepping in to do anything.
And in case you want to argue this is because of man's wickedness, please explain the similarly huge number of deaths caused by natural disasters.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-10-2011, 05:48 AM
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I'm an atheist. I'm well aware that you don't need to believe in a God to have moral ethics. However, I do have to wonder how you can claim with such certainty that your version of God is right when you have exactly as much prove as these Landover people - namely, NONE.
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Uhhhh........ EXCUSE ME?
We have the Word of God, the Holy KJV Bible, he has whatever the voices inside his head tell him.
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She's got a point.
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And in case you want to argue this is because of man's wickedness, please explain the similarly huge number of deaths caused by natural disasters.
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And yet another good point for the Atheist.
See, we are starting to get through to you One day we will convince you to read the KJV Bible and you will be so overwhelmed by Gods Pure Word that you will be begging the good pastors to fill you with Jesus' love.
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02-10-2011, 06:09 AM
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See, we are starting to get through to you One day we will convince you to read the KJV Bible and you will be so overwhelmed by Gods Pure Word that you will be begging the good pastors to fill you with Jesus' love.
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Lady, I HAVE read the Bible, and it's one of the main things that helped me abandon the Christian faith. The Bible is the biggest load of tosh ever.
Historical Errors in the Bible
Who REALLY Wrote the Bible (It sure wasn't God...)
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02-10-2011, 06:40 AM
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02-10-2011, 08:42 AM
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
02-16-2011, 12:17 AM
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I'm an atheist.
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Well, that will save time for Jesus on Judgment Day.
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It is true. You can follow the moral teachings of the Bible without believing in God. You'll still go to Hell, but at least you'll have tried your best.
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Of course he has no proof; he rejects the Bible.
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See, if you'd read the Bible, you'd know that's not what God is doing. God likes a good slaughter every now and then. After all, they're almost all sinners.
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Because we had to remove the weapons of mass destruction from Iraq, plain and simple.
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Sometimes people on Earth are too slow to punish sinners, so God needs to move a hurricane to where it is needed the most.
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03-12-2011, 11:41 PM
This thread was probably the most entertaining thing I have read in forever.
Just some thoughts for you crazy fanatic piffles.
What would save you if say, one of these billions of heathens, decided to pay a visit to your home, and tie you to a chair...then systematically slaughter your family... What would save you, THE ALMIGHTY BAPTISTS!!!!!!!!! From ANYTHING that fells man?
Nothing...
Why?
if there is a god, he hates you, me, and everyone else. You are all guilty of sins that you tell others they are going to hell for. The same hate, anger, malice, and overall just worthlessness that is humanity. I would rather live my life doing whatever I want, and go to hell for it, then waste my life following a book that reeks of man's corruption, and end up in hell/nothingness anyways. I personally hope god is real, and flays the skin from your bones personally for spreading your messages of hate, intolerance and idiocy, and I will be in hell with a smile on my face.
Seriously, you might has well just kill yourselves >.> put a smile on gods face for ME please?
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03-12-2011, 11:46 PM
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would rather live my life doing whatever I want, and go to hell for it, then waste my life following a book that reeks of man's corruption...
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05-26-2011, 05:26 PM
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I read the bible... not the version you mentioned, but it's an interesting book, but I never really understood exactly why some people take this for truth...
There are plenty of other religions, or interpretations of those religions (you guys are just a small part of christianity), so please explain to me why you are right and they are wrong.
Unfortunatly, the answer: "the Bible says so" is not enough. I know you are convinced that the Bible is the only truth available, but I'm afraid muslims say the exact same thing abouth the koran, and others think it's all the same, books written by people, nothing more. Why would you be right, and all the others wrong?
Note: This section was split off from Is Your Child a Goth, as the discussion merited its own space. -OYK
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Well, let's give this question a try...
Firstly, there's historical fact to back up the Bible. There are literal, and figurative, mountains of evidence for what the Bible claims. And, whether they want to admit it or not, every attempt by "scientists" to reinterpret natural evidence to suit their ideas is just that: an attempt to interpret evidence. The same evidence they try to use, is the evidence that proves the Bible true.
Secondly, ask yourself this question: if the Bible was just a collection of "fairy-tales", as some people claim, why would any of the Jews even claim that they believe in the Old Testament? The Old Testament has all kinds of examples of their disobedience which, to most people, would be insulting. If there was never any evidence of the Bible's claims, why wouldn't they just claim it was a fairy-tale, and make up another book? For that matter, even if they wanted to keep it, why not change it to suit their purposes? That, of course, brings me to my next point...
Thirdly, there's no speculation. Every other religion's writings are well-known for adding what they don't know for a fact. Basically, they try to get you to believe that untested opinions are the truth. Not so with the Bible... if God didn't reveal it, and it didn't happen, it wasn't put in there. Nonbelievers call that alleged lack of information, "gaps in the story". It reminds me of an old line from a cop-show from the 1950's: "Just the facts, ma'am".
Finally, if you want to get anything immoral out of the Bible (why would anyone want that?), you have to do a LOT of scripture-twisting, and leave a LOT of scripture out. Where do you think the idea for the Inquisition came from? It came from the Catholic church's twisting of scripture, in an attempt to wipe out their competition: Bible-believing Christians. As one preacher once said, "A text, without the context, is a pretext for a proof-text." If you don't leave any scriptures out on a subject, and you don't twist any scriptures around, you won't go wrong. The same cannot be said for every other religion's writings.
There's an EXTREMELY LONG answer, and I hope it satisfied your question.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
06-06-2011, 04:49 AM
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Lady, I HAVE read the Bible, and it's one of the main things that helped me abandon the Christian faith. The Bible is the biggest load of tosh ever.
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Um no, the KJV 1611 is THE Word of God because the KJ=V 1611 says so, and that settles it!
2 Peter
1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Beware! Talking about the bible that way is detrimental to your health! Of course, your mental health is obviously unholy!
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4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
No, you have not read the Powerful Word of God!
Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
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10-29-2011, 03:49 AM
I looked to the bible for help, when I could not walk, when I had been beaten and mauled, left to die in the dirt, I had always found solace in God always been able to speak to him...but then he stopped listening and I was alone, and I turned inwards, to a new strength, a strength relying on God had drowned out, and now, now I have true power without him, why would God and his word have punished me for so long, left me to die...why??
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
10-29-2011, 03:56 AM
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I looked to the bible for help, when I could not walk, when I had been beaten and mauled, left to die in the dirt, I had always found solace in God always been able to speak to him...but then he stopped listening and I was alone, and I turned inwards, to a new strength, a strength relying on God had drowned out, and now, now I have true power without him, why would God and his word have punished me for so long, left me to die...why??
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You obviously pissed Him off somewhere along the line.
Please make a thread of your own in the " Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
12-30-2011, 03:30 AM
I have an interesting thought to share, if I may.
Consider the timeframe in which the Bible was written. Consider its original language, which was Greek. At the time, most people were illiterate and uneducated. That one's a given. So, in order to spread stories and general news, everything was delivered by spoken word.
Often times, storytellers would use epithets to help them remember people's names and what they had done that was significant (ex. Homer refers to Odysseus as "the great tactician"). Bear that in mind; I won't say anything more on that, as I have enough tact not to do so.
The Quran lists Jesus as a prophet. They are utilizing his teachings as well. Muhammad preached the same thing as Jesus; they are both Abrahamic religions, like Judaism. My opinion on that one is that they are one in the same.
Thomas actually traveled to India and spread the word of Jesus along the Eastern coast. Again, because of cultural dispersion, it traveled around a bit. Interestingly enough, Buddhism preaches ideals similar to Christianity. However, because of the Hindu influence of the region, there is a bit of a regional twist on things.
Fun fact: Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism were once all seen as cults when they were started.
Just a few thoughts of my own.
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