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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-09-2015, 10:25 PM

All im asking is for you to help me find god, sorry if its to much to ask for. Anyway this isn't worshiping in peace, this is bashing and insulting a group of people.
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-09-2015, 10:33 PM

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All im asking is for you to help me find god, sorry if its to much to ask for. Anyway this isn't worshiping in peace, this is bashing and insulting a group of people.
But you have not asked us to help you, have you dear? Tell you what, let's let bygones be bygones and start again.

What we ask you to do here, rather than pile in with ill-informed and aggressive posts, is to introduce yourself by starting your own thread in the Introduction Forum. This is where we get to know you properly and you can begin your walk with Christ.

I look forward to seeing you there.

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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-09-2015, 10:42 PM

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...And if you had ever opened the Bible you would have known that our behavior is exactly what Jesus wants.
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-09-2015, 10:45 PM

I haven't been aggressive, I simply asked can you prove god to me. Next thing im told to go to hell, but still no one has proved god to me. You guys are the ones who started a page dedicated to hating against an entire group of people and there beliefe, so you cant say im aggressive. If you cant prove god to me then don't bother replying and I will wait till someone can.
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-09-2015, 10:51 PM

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I haven't been aggressive, I simply asked can you prove god to me. Next thing im told to go to hell, but still no one has proved god to me. You guys are the ones who started a page dedicated to hating against an entire group of people and there beliefe, so you cant say im aggressive. If you cant prove god to me then don't bother replying and I will wait till someone can.
God says that we should have blind faith:

John 20:29. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-09-2015, 10:56 PM

I haven't seen nor believed, that really didn't answer anything. Keep trying please.
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I haven't been aggressive, I simply asked can you prove god to me. Next thing im told to go to hell, but still no one has proved god to me. You guys are the ones who started a page dedicated to hating against an entire group of people and there beliefe, so you cant say im aggressive. If you cant prove god to me then don't bother replying and I will wait till someone can.
Hi...

Sorry to interrupt, but it seems to me that you're missing the boat on the whole religion issue. Faith = believing in something that cannot be proven. If you had proof that God existed, it wouldn't be faith.

If you want to follow a religion, you just have to pick one and hope for the best. There are no guarantees, it's like a used car sale: you buy it as is.

I understand your point, though, as I was raised Catholic but I'm struggling with my faith... my question is, if God is real, is He really worth of being worshiped? He seems to enjoy human suffering a bit too much for my taste... But then again, I'm worried that thoughts like that will bring me an eternity of suffering in Hell, and I want to repent so much...


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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-09-2015, 11:09 PM

Finally an answer im happy with, thank you. All I was trying to get across was don't bash a group of people claiming your right and there wrong, then say im aggressive. Plus I still want people to try, I keen to see if someone can.
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I meant Dolores de Barriga by the way.
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Finally an answer im happy with, thank you. All I was trying to get across was don't bash a group of people claiming your right and there wrong, then say im aggressive. Plus I still want people to try, I keen to see if someone can.
Have you even read what I said? The only evidence that Christianity is the right path is the Bible. If you reject the validity of the Bible as the Word of God, then there is no any other way to convince you otherwise.

And yes, from the point of view of Christians, they are right and you're wrong - again, because they accept the Bible as evidence and you don't.


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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-09-2015, 11:22 PM

No I understood what you said, I more or less meant I wanted to challenge the others who were more aggressive to atheism.
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Not very Christian now is it, not helping your fellow man save his soul. The bible says help your fellow Samaritan, you didn't so does that mean you are going to hell. I think it is because you cant prove god, so good job.
Dear cold-hearted God mocker, Didymus Much is no Christian. He like you, has turned his back on the only hope man can have to avoid an eternity of torture and torment for the crime of refusing to believe the fantastic biography and temporary sacrifice of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus. He is no more interested in saving your immortal soul from the consequences of your blasphemy than he is interested in saving his own. That is to say, he is invested in your Salvation as much as he's interested in your belly button lint. Kindly refrain from speaking about the Holy Bible as if you know anything about it, and pick it up and read it. At least this unsaved trash, arrogant atheist dick you keep flirting with has done that much.


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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-10-2015, 03:24 PM

I have read the bible and it made no sense to me, rules like you cant wear clothing made of two different materials and if a man cheats on his wife they both must die. It made no sense, it even said slavery is okay. Can anyone actually explain that, anyway what have I done wrong. Would he really send me to hell when I started a charity and re-homed 775 homeless animals from the street, raised over £5000 pounds for charity and saved two people lives this year? Why would he send me to hell for doing nothing bad, I never insulted him or done wrong.
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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-10-2015, 03:38 PM

Proverbs 27:2

And this is a useful lesson, too.

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I have read the bible and it made no sense to me,
You're doing it wrong. You have to hear the Word of God to get faith (Romans 10:17), and with faith the Word will take sprout (Galatians 3:2)! I suggest and audiobook or ask someone from your local Baptist church to read aloud to you. My children and I offer this service around the Des Moines area as part of our homeschool education. The more people who Hear the Word, the more people will have Faith! The more people who have Faith, the more people who will know the value of Fear and Obedience (Ecclesiastes 12:13)! The more people who know the value of Fear and Obedience, the more Blessings the LORD will bestow upon this, His favorite country (2 Chronicles 7:14)!

Glory!


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-10-2015, 04:24 PM

Explain to me why I have to believe in him to get into heaven, Im not a bad person and I help those around me. I mean what happens to tribes in the amazon forest who have never had contact outside of the forest, they have never heard of god. Do they go to hell? Doesn't sound right to me, they haven't had a chance.
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Bible Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-10-2015, 04:38 PM

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Explain to me why I have to believe in him to get into heaven, Im not a bad person and I help those around me. I mean what happens to tribes in the amazon forest who have never had contact outside of the forest, they have never heard of god. Do they go to hell? Doesn't sound right to me, they haven't had a chance.
Dear Cross,

You have to believe in Him (and follow His commandments) because, briefly, it is His show. As the Creator, He makes the rules. You may not like them or you may feel they are "not right" but it's not your show. You play by His rules if you want to avoid Hell. The first step to Salvation is to ACCEPT it and realize that you really don't have to understand or appreciate His rules. You just have to accept and believe. Jesus makes this crystal clear in His own words.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The Amazonians all come from the same original population that Fell from Grace and committed sin. They are stained. Is it God's fault if their ancestors at some point of time forgot their origins in Eden and later in Israel and lost the legacy of God and His Word during the few millenia after Babel? No! God warned them. He would not tolerate wanton sin and He would punish the descendants of sinners for many generations. Of course they go into Hell unless they accept Jesus. It is their own fault. They should not have forgotten the promise of God that their fathers received after the Flood.

As for you? You may feel you are doing good things but unfortunately God does not see it that way. He looks deeper and sees your denial of Jesus. That corrupts everything you do.

Psalms 14:1
(To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

As you can see, all your acts are revolting to God because of your unbelief. Again, it is His show. He makes the rules. He deserves as much, after all, He MADE this transient world.



That said, I appreciate your honesty and you'll be in my prayers.


Yours in Christ,

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Default Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! - 03-10-2015, 04:44 PM

I will try my best to believe in him, but no promises. If I cant well don't worry, hell is for me I guess.
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