[Foul Joo Whore]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

Read it again, but the whole thing this time.

1 John 3:5-9 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.




It depends on the severity of the sin. Permanent shunning is always a possibility as Paul tells us.

1 Corinthians 5:9-13
9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

...Paul? As in Saul, the guy who stoned the first Christian martyr?...Are you seriously trying to say Jesus would agree with dear Paul?
...So, should we permanently shun you because you judge? ...Since, you know, those are permanently shunned according to dear Paul...
And he says not to eat with the aforementioned sinners(fornicators, extortioners, etc), so, do you eat in restaurants often?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

...Paul? As in Saul, the guy who stoned the first Christian martyr?...Are you seriously trying to say Jesus would agree with dear Paul?

Of course Jesus would agree with Paul. He appeared to Him to change his heart personally! He repented of his Christ killing ways and became an ex-Pharisee. He later went on to author around half of the New Testament.

...So, should we permanently shun you because you judge? ...Since, you know, those are permanently shunned according to dear Paul...

12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?


Paul is telling us to actively judge people within the church.

And he says not to eat with the aforementioned sinners(fornicators, extortioners, etc), so, do you eat in restaurants often?

Do the unsaved sit at my table?

Reread this verse again.

10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

Paul is saying that it would be impossible to shun them all or you couldn't leave the house.

[Foul Joo Whore]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

Of course Jesus would agree with Paul. He appeared to Him to change his heart personally! He repented of his Christ killing ways and became an ex-Pharisee.



12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?


Paul is telling us to actively judge people within the church.




Do the unsaved sit at my table?

....And why are you judging everyone, then?...Also, Paul kind of did not like the other apostles, so, do you agree with him on that too?...And, probably, they serve you, at least...

[Levi Jones]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

....And why are you judging everyone, then?...

I am not judging anyone. I am merely looking at the Bible and telling you what it says.

Do you also get angry with the sign post that holds the stop sign up?

Also, Paul kind of did not like the other apostles, so, do you agree with him on that too?

I'm sure Paul loved his fellow apostles. He did merely point a few things about how they were wrong. It's no different than what we do.

[Foul Joo Whore]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

I am not judging anyone. I am merely looking at the Bible and telling you what it says.

Do you also get angry with the sign post that holds the stop sign up?



I'm sure Paul loved his fellow apostles. He did merely point a few things about how they were wrong. It's no different than what we do.

...Let's see, you are quoting a mistranslation of a mistranslation of a Greek mistranslation of the Bible, and you think I'm angry... I'm not angry, if I was I would use exclamation points. And, do I get angry with the Stop signs? Nah, only if they are half-destroyed, and then only at the people who have destroyed them, hun...

And Paul? Yes, you are like Paul. Happy now?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

...Let's see, you are quoting a mistranslation of a mistranslation of a Greek mistranslation of the Bible,

Ah, so you think Paul said something else completely different. He probably said to coddle sinners and tell them that everything is okay. It was just those mean nasty Christians who changed his words to say the complete opposite.

You have convinced me. What kind of puppy dog would you like me to buy you? Maybe you wanted a pony from Paul?

[Foul Joo Whore]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

Ah, so you think Paul said something else completely different. He probably said to coddle sinners and tell them that everything is okay. It was just those mean nasty Christians who changed his words to say the complete opposite.

You have convinced me. What kind of puppy dog would you like me to buy you? Maybe you wanted a pony from Paul?

...You do realise you missed a chance to comment on a great simile, right? Also, no, Paul was Paul. Misogynist, homophobic, old, Jewish Paul. Of course the reiteration of the Old Testament laws will be done by a person who never talked to Jeshua for a long period of time... Also, I want a cobra... Are you willing to buy me one?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

........Then why is there a Focus on Family - Christian Parenting forum section? If you're chosen, you're chosen, if you're not, you're not. Obviously. What would discipline have to do with it?

A parent's role, as directed by God, is to raise up a child in the right way.

The child has to make his own choices, but that does not give the parent the right to abdicate responsibility.

Also, so, you are not a True Christian™ if you stray? What if you strayed before but now do not?

Most True Christians™ were sinners at one point.

Once a True Christian™, it is no longer possible to sin. If you sin, you are not a True Christian™.

Of course the reiteration of the Old Testament laws will be done by a person who never talked to Jeshua for a long period of time

You mean like Jesus?

Matthew 5:17-20

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Maybe you should try reading the Bible before telling us what it says, friend.

[Foul Joo Whore]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

A parent's role, as directed by God, is to raise up a child in the right way.

The child has to make his own choices, but that does not give the parent the right to abdicate responsibility.

Most True Christians™ were sinners at one point.

Once a True Christian™, it is no longer possible to sin. If you sin, you are not a True Christian™.

You mean like Jesus?

Matthew 5:17-20

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Maybe you should try reading the Bible before telling us what it says, friend.

You do see a logical fallacy here, no?...And righteousness surpassing this of the Scribes and Pharisees was easy, since they didn't follow the laws set for them....

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

You do see a logical fallacy here, no?...And righteousness surpassing this of the Scribes and Pharisees was easy, since they didn't follow the laws set for them....

No, there is no logical fallacy there.

The scribes and Pharisees were known for following the Law, much more so than the average Jew.

To enter Heaven, you must be more righteous (that is, obedient to the Law) than they were.

[Foul Joo Whore]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

No, there is no logical fallacy there.

The scribes and Pharisees were known for following the Law, much more so than the average Jew.

To enter Heaven, you must be more righteous (that is, obedient to the Law) than they were.

No, Honeybee, the scribes and Pharisees only followed the letter of the Law, so they were unrighteous according to Jeshua. You have to follow the spirit of the Law to be righteous, and that means understand it and then act according to your understanding. Jeshua was clear. By calling them unrighteous, He set the spirit of the Law as the thing to follow...

You can refute me all you want, since I'm hoping you will. I want to learn something, after all...

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

No, Honeybee, the scribes and Pharisees only followed the letter of the Law, so they were unrighteous according to Jeshua. You have to follow the spirit of the Law to be righteous, and that means understand it and then act according to your understanding. Jeshua was clear. By calling them unrighteous, He set the spirit of the Law as the thing to follow...

You can refute me all you want, since I'm hoping you will. I want to learn something, after all...

What's with all the Jeshua nonsense?

You trying to be hip and trendy with the wannabe new age scholars, sonny?

[Foul Joo Whore]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

What's with all the Jeshua nonsense?

You trying to be hip and trendy with the wannabe new age scholars, sonny?

You DO realise I'm female, right?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

No, Honeybee, the scribes and Pharisees only followed the letter of the Law, so they were unrighteous according to Jeshua. You have to follow the spirit of the Law to be righteous, and that means understand it and then act according to your understanding. Jeshua was clear. By calling them unrighteous, He set the spirit of the Law as the thing to follow...

You can refute me all you want, since I'm hoping you will. I want to learn something, after all...

And in order to be more righteous, you must follow the letter AND the spirit of the law.

Do you? Or have you chosen Hell?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Christian Domestic Discipline

You DO realise I'm female, right?

Explains a lot...

Why are you here embarrassing your father/husband? He's going to be hopping mad when he sees what your silly emotions have made you do this time.