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Default Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-25-2015, 04:57 PM

Friends in Christ,

We are perhaps tempted to "pray" for victims and their families. However, on the other hand I believe God has his plans, and for me to second-guess them would be hypocritical, almost blasphemous.

God wanted those people to go into the Alps like a dart and I think prayers will offend Him.

Don't you agree?


"Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).
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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-25-2015, 05:29 PM

A most concerning problem, Brother.

I for one would hate to give the appearance of failing to Trust my Lord by suggesting His plans be revised to meet my own personal standards, based on my own fallible human thinking.

I think you've got your finger right on the button with identifying Prayers for the "victims" (or should it be, "defendants") as Blasphemy.


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-25-2015, 06:25 PM

I could not help praying for the three Americans who perished on that flight.


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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-25-2015, 10:04 PM

Personally I applaud your empathy, Brother Nobar, but it turns out that one of the Americans was a woman with a job and another was her daughter, who had been to some secular college or other and even graduated, so my husband reckons that they're pretty much a waste of good prayer. We don't know who the third one was, so maybe that one is worth the effort.

But before I pray for that unknown American, I've sometimes wondered: is there any point in praying for the dead? I mean, either they were already Saved or they weren't, so in either case our prayers make no difference. I know it's an emotional thing, and as a woman I am prone to irrational acts, so if in doubt I pray. But I do have other people to pray for and our time until Rapture is limited.


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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-25-2015, 11:11 PM

I rejoiced when I saw the news and was in awe of God's work being done right before my eyes.

I wouldn't dream of praying and intereferring in God's wondrous plan.
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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-26-2015, 01:47 AM

The woman who died was an employee of the godless Federal Government in God forsaken Washington, D.C. There is just no telling how many honest Americans died of old age while waiting on hold for that woman to finish her coffee break. Perhaps the others who died on that airplane had similar moral failings.


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I could not help praying for the three Americans who perished on that flight.
Collateral damage, Brother King...nothing to fret over. Jesus realizes that a few eggs need to be broken to make an omelette*.

*not to imply that Jesus has any interest in french cooking whatsoever
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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-26-2015, 04:54 AM

I think I know one of the contributory reasons why God chose to smite this flight. On board were 2 Aussies - a mother and her 29 year old son. The son was a gaysexural. From an Australian newspaper -
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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-26-2015, 07:55 PM

This is starting to get difficult now because Pat Robertson has suggested that the co-pilot may have been a Mooslim.

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“What a terrible tragedy,” the TV preacher continued. “Was that co-pilot a Muslim? Why would he want to kill all those people?”
Well, if he was a Mooslim then obviously we should be praying for these people, because they were the victims of Mooslim terrorism.

But another possibility has occurred to me. The co-pilot is (or rather was!) supposed to be German, but his first name was Andreas which is Greek and his second name was something like Lubitz, which sounds kind of jewish to me. Was he some sort of Greek Orthodox Joo? Did he mistake the Alps for Gaza? It's kind of hard to confuse them, what with one being covered with snow, but maybe it looks the same as sand from cruising altitude.


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This is starting to get difficult now because Pat Robertson has suggested that the co-pilot may have been a Mooslim.



Well, if he was a Mooslim then obviously we should be praying for these people, because they were the victims of Mooslim terrorism.

But another possibility has occurred to me. The co-pilot is (or rather was!) supposed to be German, but his first name was Andreas which is Greek and his second name was something like Lubitz, which sounds kind of jewish to me. Was he some sort of Greek Orthodox Joo? Did he mistake the Alps for Gaza? It's kind of hard to confuse them, what with one being covered with snow, but maybe it looks the same as sand from cruising altitude.
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I prayed that all of the sinners on the plane go straight to Hell on Judgment Day. Yes, I know that's already God's plan, but I'd hate to think that Jesus might change his mind and force us True Christians™ to share our mansions in Heaven with the unsaved.


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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-27-2015, 08:39 AM

Yes. Can it really be that god would have meant this plane to crash? I am thinking that it cannot be so. It is of course true that it is too late for prayers now. Yes. But it is not too late to pray for the families of those who perished. Yes. I have weak prayers but if the good people here in this church are feeling that their prayers are strong, perhaps you will be praying for those who are suffering right now. Yes. You must. Human life is filled with suffering and our first step is to try and feel the suffering of others and guide them to the other side of this pain. Yes.


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Yes. Can it really be that god would have meant this plane to crash? I am thinking that it cannot be so.
It is clear that you are a woman and a Moslem as you have no idea of God's role in the universe.

To suggest that God (Who knows everything) knew that the plane would crash, yet did nothing although He could have done, is to accuse the Almighty of criminal negligence.

I feel your soul is even more damned.

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Hmmm... prayers for the resurrection of the dead might work. Jesus brought people back from the dead and said that those with faith could do anything. (However, that then raises the question of, "If the dead are in Hell, do we want them here? And "If they are in heaven, should we call them back from Paradise?")
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What should we pray for? What do these people need?





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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-27-2015, 03:58 PM

The co-pilot had been in hospital. He had some kind of disease.

Now, I have to ask you Brothers and Sisters in Christ, what is a disease, which makes a person hopeless, he sees no Salvation and no possibilities to a life here on earth?

We all know.
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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-28-2015, 06:43 AM

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Yes. Can it really be that god would have meant this plane to crash? I am thinking that it cannot be so. It is of course true that it is too late for prayers now. Yes. But it is not too late to pray for the families of those who perished. Yes. I have weak prayers but if the good people here in this church are feeling that their prayers are strong, perhaps you will be praying for those who are suffering right now. Yes. You must. Human life is filled with suffering and our first step is to try and feel the suffering of others and guide them to the other side of this pain. Yes.
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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-28-2015, 12:30 PM

Amidst all the hand-wringing, watch closely for the creeping socialist menace in this story. More government regulation is coming to strangle the airline industry, mark my words - be it compulsory government-mandated medical checks for pilots or the union-thug tactics of insisting on 2 members of staff do a job that only 1 is needed for. Wake up America! It's all about union dues.

The only real solution is to let the free market decide. No more regulations. Customers should be free to pick the pilot they want and the plane they want him to fly, just like the good Pastors of Landover Baptist do. It takes just a little more effort but is well worth it to have your freedom.


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Default Re: Don't pray for victims of German aircrash!! - 03-28-2015, 09:58 PM

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The co-pilot had been in hospital. He had some kind of disease.

Now, I have to ask you Brothers and Sisters in Christ, what is a disease, which makes a person hopeless, he sees no Salvation and no possibilities to a life here on earth?

We all know.

You mean he was a Democrat?


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