[Bob4God]

Now that the Obama administration is charging forward with its plans to turn America into "Amerika" by socializing everything and establishing food and toilet paper lines like Russian comedian Yakov talks about in Branson, I believe that it's time to take a long hard look at how GOD responds to countries that reject Him and persecute Christians.




Above: Chernobyl nuclear power plant, with puny 'sarcophagus' covering the blast hole, for the purpose of keeping the sneaky communists' plagiarism of American nuclear technology a secret forever.

Here's a good place to start, the abandoned and collapsing nuclear power plant in Chernobyl, surrounded by abandoned and collapsing towns and forests in the Ukraine.

In the early morning hours of April 26, 1986, the LORD OUR GOD sent a fierce judgement to the commies who were attempting to steal the Divine Gift of nuclear power that He had given to the United States.

Their wimpy and funny-looking power plant exploded, killing two commies right then and there and contaminating countless residents, firefighters, crooked commie politicians and LORD knows who else. The radiation spread far and wide, covering large portions of Europe and a bunch of other heathen countries.

Since then all kinds of hilarious mutations have taken place in the wildlife around Chernobyl, and I'm sure countless reds have given birth to monstrosities that are a true testament to the cleverness of GOD's punishments. Was it not our LORD AND SAVIOR who said in Malachi 2:3, "Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces!"

Even though GOD didn't opt to personally spread dung upon the faces of these freedom-hating liberal atheist communists, He did hurl chunks of flaming molten graphite control rods all over the place, sort of like fire from Heaven! SHOUT GLORY!

Friends in CHRIST, Chernobyl stands a grave reminder to the GODly western world of what happens when we turn away from the Bible and from our LORD. JESUS has blessed America with over 100 functioning nuclear commercial power plants and 34 research reactors at a bunch of universities. Many of these universities are liberal and refuse to teach intelligent design, meaning that GOD may choose to let one loose if we don't give Him the recognition He deserves!

This brings me to my next point:


Above: One of America's finest nuclear reactors in Arkansas. Notice how the girth and length of this mighty behemoth puts Chernobyl to shame!

Any one of these babies could pop like a zit at any moment unless Obama can be controlled, prayer is reinstated in school, and gay marriage is nationally banned. We are a CHRISTIAN nation! We are a CAPITALIST nation! We must say NO to publicized healthcare, for all the publicized healthcare in Canada, Britian and France couldn't hold off the effects of GOD's wrath should He decide to kick over one of our reactors like a sand castle!

Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. -Psalm 50:3

Communism doesn't work. All it does is enslave the people, punish those who are independent, and take away our right to praise GOD!

Do you want your home and business to be seized by the government because communism caused your local nuclear power plant to erupt? Do you? I didn't think so.

When JESUS returns to catch us up into glory, what are you going to say when He asks you what you did to preserve Christianity in America? Let us all work and pray to make sure that none of us goes to meet our maker due to a nuclear communist accident brought on by Obama.

For the work of a man shall he render unto him, and cause every man to find according to his ways. -Job 34:11

[eliot mayfield]

God killed thousands of commies and spread radiation all over socialist Europe!

[HTannor]

Praise be to Bob4God for giving us a true history lesson that we can present in our home schooling classes.

They just don't teach the truth in the Godless public schools.

[As_I_Lay_Dying]

Originally Posted by Bob4God

In the early morning hours of April 26, 1986, the LORD OUR GOD sent a fierce judgement to the commies who were attempting to steal the Divine Gift of nuclear power that He had given to the United States.

Communism doesn't work.

1. You do realise the people who discovered nuclear power were German, Italian, Austro-Hungarian. And some were Jewish. So in effect the US stole the best physicists and nuclear power themselves.

2. Communism doesn't work? Bold statement as there has never been a communist state. EVER. Soviet Union et al were not communist states no matter what your government told you, or that they themselves claimed to be. Read the communist manifesto and you would understand this.

[eliot mayfield]

Originally Posted by As_I_Lay_Dying

1. You do realise the people who discovered nuclear power were German, Italian, Austro-Hungarian. And some were Jewish. So in effect the US stole the best physicists and nuclear power themselves.

2. Communism doesn't work? Bold statement as there has never been a communist state. EVER. Soviet Union et al were not communist states no matter what your government told you, or that they themselves claimed to be. Read the communist manifesto and you would understand this.

Dear Jesus, please allow me control in my response.

Listen! I live in a former communistic state! How dare you tell me these things! I have friends who have no parents because the commies killed them for believing in Christ! The government here told them what communism was and they studied it for 16 hours everyday!
What high horse are you on to tell me any different?
Do you have any experience beyond the manifesto?
I suppose you're an expert on submarines because you read 20,000 Leagues Under the sea!

[As_I_Lay_Dying]

Originally Posted by eliot mayfield

Dear Jesus, please allow me control in my response.

Listen! I live in a former communistic state! How dare you tell me these things! I have friends who have no parents because the commies killed them for believing in Christ! The government here told them what communism was and they studied it for 16 hours everyday!
What high horse are you on to tell me any different?
Do you have any experience beyond the manifesto?
I suppose you're an expert on submarines because you read 20,000 Leagues Under the sea!

Firtsly I am truly sorry for your friends parents who were killed just for believing in Christ. That is something that should never happen.

But they are so called 'communists'. In your post you yourself have answered my question. The governments of the member states that formed the USSR and it's satellite states were dictatorships, and not communist dictatorships either. Why?

Because communism starts with a revolution of the proletariat where they take control of industry etc (the means of production), followed by for a short period of time a dictatorship of the proletariat to protect against counter revolutions. In this period the state has a large centralized government that controls all areas of the economy etc in order to protect the workers revolution. Finally after the threat of a counter revolution ends, the large centralized state will 'wither away' as Marx and Engels put it. A communist society has no government. People working for the benefit of society together, 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need'. This is a very shortened brief of a communist society.

If you compare what the USSR etc were, they were not communist. Just a centralized dictatorship by the Russians.

[eliot mayfield]

Originally Posted by As_I_Lay_Dying

Firtsly I am truly sorry for your friends parents who were killed just for believing in Christ. That is something that should never happen.

But they are so called 'communists'. In your post you yourself have answered my question. The governments of the member states that formed the USSR and it's satellite states were dictatorships, and not communist dictatorships either. Why?

Because communism starts with a revolution of the proletariat where they take control of industry etc (the means of production),

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followed by for a short period of time a dictatorship of the proletariat to protect against counter revolutions. In this period the state has a large centralized government that controls all areas of the economy etc in order to protect the workers revolution.

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Finally after the threat of a counter revolution ends, the large centralized state will 'wither away' as Marx and Engels put it.

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A communist society has no government. People working for the benefit of society together, 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need'. This is a very shortened brief of a communist society.

If you compare what the USSR etc were, they were not communist. Just a centralized dictatorship by the Russians.

They were exactly what you said! I checked off the list one by one for you!

Except for one thing, I never knew communism was anarchy.

[As_I_Lay_Dying]

Originally Posted by eliot mayfield

They were exactly what you said! I checked off the list one by one for you!

Except for one thing, I never knew communism was anarchy.

How can you check each one off? Yes the state controlled industry, BUT the state was not a proletarian government. If Lenin had lived it might have been different but once Stalin got power the transition to communism was never going to happen. There was no equality for all. The ruling class like the Russian aristocracy before them exploited the under classes.

Anarchy and communism are different. But both don't have governments. In an anarchic society the individuals work etc only for themselves, in communism they work for the collective benefit of society and mankind.

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

Originally Posted by As_I_Lay_Dying

How can you check each one off? Yes the state controlled industry, BUT the state was not a proletarian government. If Lenin had lived it might have been different but once Stalin got power the transition to communism was never going to happen. There was no equality for all. The ruling class like the Russian aristocracy before them exploited the under classes.

Anarchy and communism are different. But both don't have governments. In an anarchic society the individuals work etc only for themselves, in communism they work for the collective benefit of society and mankind.

Are you a spy sent here by the KGB to spy on us?

[As_I_Lay_Dying]

Originally Posted by BibleThumpinBlonde

Are you a spy sent here by the KGB to spy on us?

Yes I'm a KGB spy with nothing better to do than stalk christian internet forums

[eliot mayfield]

Originally Posted by As_I_Lay_Dying

How can you check each one off? Yes the state controlled industry, BUT the state was not a proletarian government. If Lenin had lived it might have been different but once Stalin got power the transition to communism was never going to happen. There was no equality for all. The ruling class like the Russian aristocracy before them exploited the under classes.

Anarchy and communism are different. But both don't have governments. In an anarchic society the individuals work etc only for themselves, in communism they work for the collective benefit of society and mankind.

You are an idiot. You deserve a medal for being so stupid. The ruling class was the underclass. The idiots took control of everything!
OOPS! now it's clear why you support it.
You know nothing of which you speak.

[As_I_Lay_Dying]

Originally Posted by eliot mayfield

You are an idiot. You deserve a medal for being so stupid. The ruling class was the underclass. The idiots took control of everything!
OOPS! now it's clear why you support it.
You know nothing of which you speak.

Yes because Stalin et al after him really stood for the workers! I'm sorry but you're calling me an idiot?! what did any of them do for the workers in the USSR? NOTHING! For someone who's lived in a former eastern bloc country you really have a you're perceptions blurred. That may be because the 'communist' governments were terror governments and you hated them, so you attribute communism to them. But that is wrong.

[eliot mayfield]

Originally Posted by As_I_Lay_Dying

Yes because Stalin et al after him really stood for the workers! I'm sorry but you're calling me an idiot?! what did any of them do for the workers in the USSR? NOTHING! For someone who's lived in a former eastern bloc country you really have a you're perceptions blurred. That may be because the 'communist' governments were terror governments and you hated them, so you attribute communism to them. But that is wrong.

Who are the "workers?" The idiots who couldn't read or write and believed everything told to them. Then they were the same people who believed someday you could walk into a shop and just pick up what you wanted for free. It's as stupid as Star trek. No, it's even more stupid! Imagine your boss can't read. She is fat and ugly. She heard you pray. Then, she demanded you fornicate with her. You refuse, so she declares you a Christian and you're sent away forever to work in a Uranium mine!
That is what communism is really about, "Commrade!"

[As_I_Lay_Dying]

Originally Posted by eliot mayfield

Who are the "workers?" The idiots who couldn't read or write and believed everything told to them. Then they were the same people who believed someday you could walk into a shop and just pick up what you wanted for free. It's as stupid as Star trek. No, it's even more stupid! Imagine your boss can't read. She is fat and ugly. She heard you pray. Then, she demanded you fornicate with her. You refuse, so she declares you a Christian and you're sent away forever to work in a Uranium mine!
That is what communism is really about, "Commrade!"

Looks like I was right. You're experiences with 'communism' has given you a hate to true communism. You clearly do not know what Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels wrote about in the communist manifesto and just like all the unenlightened people who believe that the USSR was communist. Once you have read the manifesto your statements will have more value but until then I'm sorry but saying that communism is what you stated above, that's just laughable.

And as for 'workers' or 'proletariat', they are everyday people who work in factories, shops etc those who make the economy work, but get paid nothing in comparison to the 'bourgeois', those that own the industry etc. People think they can slate communism without reading the manifesto. But they don't understand what Marx and Engels said. I know because I was like that until I read it myself.

[eliot mayfield]

Originally Posted by As_I_Lay_Dying

Looks like I was right. You're experiences with 'communism' has given you a hate to true communism. You clearly do not know what Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels wrote about in the communist manifesto and just like all the unenlightened people who believe that the USSR was communist. Once you have read the manifesto your statements will have more value but until then I'm sorry but saying that communism is what you stated above, that's just laughable.

And as for 'workers' or 'proletariat', they are everyday people who work in factories, shops etc those who make the economy work, but get paid nothing in comparison to the 'bourgeois', those that own the industry etc. People think they can slate communism without reading the manifesto. But they don't understand what Marx and Engels said. I know because I was like that until I read it myself.

So the millions of people who read the same books for nearly a century and lived their lives accordingly, failed to grasp the true meaning that you did?
You are an arrogant one, aren't you?

[As_I_Lay_Dying]

Originally Posted by eliot mayfield

So the millions of people who read the same books for nearly a century and lived their lives accordingly, failed to grasp the true meaning that you did?
You are an arrogant one, aren't you?

It's amazing how some people on these boards twist what people say. I never said that I had a better grasp of communism than them. Trying to divert the topic?

I find myself repeating, but I shall once more. Those 'millions' of people who lived their lives accordingly may have done so. But I think you'll find most people under the Soviets just wanted to survive and not get sent to a work camp. A large amount of the population were oppressed by the governments use of terror etc and again I state that those governments were not communist. None of this should happen in a communist society.

What I am going to say is YOU read the communist manifesto, then judge whether or not you think the USSR etc were communist. I think you'll find that you will be agreeing with me.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by As_I_Lay_Dying

What I am going to say is YOU read the communist manifesto, then judge whether or not you think the USSR etc were communist. I think you'll find that you will be agreeing with me.

In a way, you have a point. Communism is based on a book full of pie-in-the-sky utopian daydreaming that makes no reference to the real world or the real people in it and can never be implemented without being corrupted beyond recognition. Yet you wonder why we True Christians™ reject it.

[As_I_Lay_Dying]

Originally Posted by Pastor Isaac Peters

In a way, you have a point. Communism is based on a book full of pie-in-the-sky utopian daydreaming that makes no reference to the real world or the real people in it and can never be implemented without being corrupted beyond recognition. Yet you wonder why we True Christians™ reject it.

Thank you for the peaceful manner in your response to my point. I agree with what you say that it can never be implemented correctly. The point I was trying to make was that we have never seen a communist society and we never will. Contrary to what people believe about the USSR.

[David Goldman]

Originally Posted by Bob4God

Here's a good place to start, the abandoned and collapsing nuclear power plant in Chernobyl, surrounded by abandoned and collapsing towns and forests in the Ukraine.

What's really intersting is that "Chernobyl", in Ukrainian, means "wormwood".

And in Revelation chapter 8 we have:

10And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
11And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Wow! Sounds an aweful lot like a nuclear meltdown accident and radioactive contamination to me. And this was written about 2000 years ago.

[Bob4God]

Originally Posted by David Goldman

What's really intersting is that "Chernobyl", in Ukrainian, means "wormwood".

And in Revelation chapter 8 we have:


Wow! Sounds an aweful lot like a nuclear meltdown accident and radioactive contamination to me. And this was written about 2000 years ago.

Glory! How can people say there's no evidence of GOD!? How can they say the Bible isn't accurate?! It blows the mind!